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Welcome to the Ringer NFL Show. I'm your host, Shiel Kapati, one final show for the week.

It's time to go on the record with pics, predictions, final score, all that good stuff.

So we've got our friend, Deontay Lee, from the Ringer. He will join Billy Gill and myself.

Let's take a break. We'll come right back with Deontay and Billy.

All right. We are back here on the Ringer NFL Show, Shiel Kapati, with Deontay Lee and Billy Gill.

One last show before the game, Deontay. Do you have any takes that just, you know, you feel like,

I'm going to let him out here because I got no more opportunity.

The only take I have is that we shouldn't have to shuttle for an hour to get to play here availability.

That's my take. That is my take.

So Billy, he is not giving San Francisco two thumbs up as a Super Bowl host city. How are you feeling?

Wow. How many are you giving it?

I'm giving it one.

One, purely nostalgic least since I'm a California native. I haven't been here since my 21st birthday, which is however many years ago at this point.

How's your homecoming been?

It's been good. You know, I got to spend some time yesterday doing what locals would do.

All right. So I'm walking up and down the hills in Chinatown. I have some good food out there.

So that part has been nice, you know, but as far as Super Bowl goes, not my favorite.

I spent the first time yesterday too.

What did you do? We wrapped up here at God on a trolley. I had done that once before.

Yeah. God on a trolley. Headed down to Fisherman's War.

Okay. Yep.

God on a boat.

Road the boat underneath the Golden Gate Bridge around Alcatraz.

They were pointing out some different sites.

There you go.

So I got off on land. I walked over to the Jerodelli Square that they have there.

You know, the Chocolate Company. Yeah.

They have like a whole factory or something there. Did that.

Then I started thinking what wouldn't my wife or family ask me did you do this while you were there?

So I did, I got an Uber. I went to the full house house.

Nice.

I needed ladies as they're called that way, right?

I did. Well, have you ever been?

Yeah, I've seen those before. Yeah.

But have you been to the full house house? No, inside?

No, no, to like in front of it or whatever.

Oh, no.

Okay. Have you been?

I have not been.

So if you haven't been, don't.

It's just, it's just a neighborhood.

It's not even like on TV where there's like a grassy area in the front where people are like playing frisbee.

None of that exists. It's a regular residential street.

Okay.

One side of the street is houses. The other side of the street is other houses.

One of them is a full house house.

They have a fence in front of the stairwell.

None of the stairs have it except this house.

Have a fence in front of it so no one will go up the steps.

Right.

They have a sign that says this is a private residence. Please respect for whatever.

And then they had an Amazon package that was on the steps just waiting for them.

All the magic was lost.

And the Uber driver was so confused as to where it was going.

When I got there, it's like, is this where you're going?

And I was like, yeah.

And I got down and he did that thing where he kind of just like lingered for a little bit to make sure.

So I had to pretend I was actually doing something.

So I just walked up and down the block a little bit.

And then I called another Uber and I was like, never again.

So I took a picture, sent it to some of my friends we're talking about going.

I was like, tell your wives and girlfriends you were there.

Use this picture. Don't waste your time.

Don't waste your time.

Now, lingering, I've never had that happen to me.

They dropped me off and they're off to the next one.

He could tell. He could tell that was a fish out of water.

I took away Mo yesterday.

Oh, you done that?

I am terrified, so no.

You know, at first I was a little anxious.

If you don't stare at the steering wheel, it feels exactly like any other ride I thought.

I thought it was fun.

I would do it again.

First time.

First time. I and I sat in the front seat because my friends were in the back.

That's my problem is that I would stare at the ceiling wheel the entire time.

That part is weird.

I can't not look.

There was a man on the, I couldn't get the door open at first and there was a man on the sidewalk yelling at me.

Don't let robots take over your life.

Your life.

He was under, you know, maybe some influence of some substances.

Are you going to let robots take over your life?

I don't know, but I will take away Mo.

Did you go up and down the hills?

Because that's why I wanted to, I want to take away Mo just to say I have.

This doesn't feel like the city to do it because the hills have me a little scared.

No, this was a short ride.

Okay, I was good.

All right.

So San Francisco is a host city.

We talked about the, does this Super Bowl have juice?

Honestly, that conversation we just had, I feel like there hasn't been as much talk about the actual game.

Is this like a good Super Bowl?

Deonte.

Like let's say, all right, you got the hipsters, you got the film grinders, you got the casual fan, you got the nerd.

Like do you feel like this is checking the boxes of a great Super Bowl matchup?

Or is it just that we're too far into it?

We talked too much about it.

It is a great Super Bowl, but maybe not for us.

I mean, the latter part is certainly true, but I think the bigger problem, I might argue that we're more spoiled now than we were during the Brady era.

Because of what, because of how quickly Patrick Mahomes has become the pre-eminent guy in terms of quarterback play, right?

And to have a playoff run where there is no Patrick Mahomes, there is no Lamar Jackson.

You get Josh Allen in and out of the playoffs relatively quickly.

And kind of going out into rough circumstances with all this turnovers.

I'm not going to say it's a juiceless Super Bowl.

It is probably the lowest profile Super Bowl we've had since.

God, I don't know.

I don't even know when the last time you would say you would have a game that was competitive with this.

Maybe Cardinal Steelers?

Because Ben Rothisberger?

He ended up being on a great game.

Exactly.

I mean, you're talking about the end of Kurt Warner still.

That's still a guy that you were probably thinking was going to make the Hall of Fame by the time that game happened.

So even in that, you know, it's tough to think about a game that's been this low profile in the Super Bowl over the last 15, 20 years.

Yeah.

Do you think we're trying to talk ourselves into like it could be a good game, but most of us might just be like,

do you think this might not be all that close?

Last year wasn't a great game.

We're worried that's going to happen again.

Okay, so part of my problem is that I'm a total coward.

So when Patriots people are talking to me, I feel like I almost owe them like a little bit of plausible deniability that this game might go a certain way.

I just left talking to Patriots people.

I'm like, I think Seahawks buy maybe a touchdown.

And my heart of hearts win, you know, our editor asks for a prediction.

Well, don't give it away.

I will give our actual predictions at the end.

I will say I did not have it as a six-point game the way that I've said.

Well, I've been on radio, bro.

Nice little tease there from Beyond Taste.

Stick around.

No, we're not taking a break.

Yet, Patriots, you did write about the ex-factors in this game.

Give us one from the Seahawks where you're like, this guy, you might not be thinking about him right now.

But Sunday night, the true ball knowers are going to go.

Wow.

He had a big impact in this football.

So this one ended up being cut from the ex-factors piece.

Oh.

But I will say, gray's able, actually.

The gray's able versus Milton Williams match up, or versus Christian Barmore.

Because if there is one way that you can see New England really affecting this offense, it's going to be by blitzing enough to get those one-on-one opportunities with their interior alignment.

A rookie lineman against two guys that have played at a pro bowl level at different points in their career.

That is where it can get a little thorny and the rest of their interior is not as good.

This gray's able has been at points.

And I will say the most of gray's able's wins have been in the run game.

Not that he's a bad pass protector, but he's much better kind of executing that zone scheme.

So that's what I'm thinking about.

And in the other one, and the reason I won't was able to set it this guy is because the status is up in the air.

And that's Nicki Minori.

Right, he's dealing with an ankle right now.

And I might actually end up working out in the Patriots' favor if he's hobbled but still plays.

Because now that means you're not going to have a guy who's bigger, faster, and stronger than your tight ends and slot receivers out in coverage on those guys.

So that's kind of one of those two things that I would think would be probably the biggest expectors on the CL side.

Yeah, I think the Seattle's interior offensive line, Mina was telling us earlier in the week, Philly.

She's like the thing where less sort of scared about if this game goes sideways is that their defensive tackles just kind of win those battles against our interior offensive line.

Why do you have X factors that are unknown that were cut?

But if you were right on those and they didn't see the light of things now, I'm just so curious.

I haven't been here long enough, so I'm just asking to know the process.

This is not to question decisions over me.

I'm curious what happens about it.

To be careful, I ultimately made that call.

I ultimately made that call.

I honestly just was not very invested in the take as I was writing it out.

You know what he was doing? He was saving him for the pot.

Which is a better move.

Like it's pick later.

You have something you're writing and then you have something for the pot.

Someone might be reading and listing, we hope they are, but they might not be.

And you know what?

Go on the wringer.com, but also go on the wringer podcast network.

Do you have other like cutting room floor takes or X factors or things that didn't see the light of day?

We haven't given us your Patriots.

Yeah, Patriots.

But he told us those were lies because he didn't want to upset Patriots.

I'll give you an earnest one.

I'll give you an earnest one.

Okay.

It would be Kyle Williams, who was in the piece.

Kyle Williams is somebody who has been productive kind of in fits and starts for New England.

And I think that this is also true of Travion Henderson.

Right?

Those are probably their two speed guys that we just probably don't see enough of making an impact in their offense.

But specifically with the guy like Kyle Williams, they tried to take a chance against Houston.

He totally dusted Kamari Lasseter off the boundary in complete pass.

They came to it later in that game.

He probably earned a pass in a fairness call that he did not get against Lasseter again.

But you take those two reps and you think without physical Seattle wants to be out on the perimeter or playing tight coverage all the time.

Maybe you do get those one-on-one opportunities where a guy like Keishan Bouti, who is more of a contested catch guy,

might be gloved up by a Devon Witherspoon or a Turek woman.

And maybe you just get a streaking Kyle Williams down the field.

And when we talk about just like what the band of outcomes have to be for New England to win a football game of this magnitude,

it's going to take an unexpected name like Kyle Williams getting one of those big chunk plays.

I think to scare Seattle out of playing as much tight coverage as I think they might want to on Sunday.

See, this is why Deontano's content.

You're a man of media.

Deontano may be a man of content because I haven't heard the name Kyle Williams all week.

All we've been doing is here all week talking football.

And here we are Thursday late afternoon and he's bringing up a guy I hadn't even thought of.

In fairness, hands up.

I've derailed some of this talking about underwear and such.

Yeah, I would agree.

I will say that maybe you could have heard about him.

Okay.

We're not kind of cutting off the rails a bit.

You know what's weird is that like Deontano just mentioned Kamari Laster.

I don't know he was here on radio.

That is a weird part about being here is that like you could just be yelling about somebody and they could be right next door.

It's got to be quiet.

Like someone asked me something about Trevor Lawrence earlier and then five minutes later Trevor Lawrence was walking over there.

These entourage are getting out of control a little bit. Am I right?

Did he hear you?

I don't think so.

I think I said a nice thing about him.

I was like what's his best trade or something and I made something up.

Yeah.

I saw running around here today, literally running around.

Kirk Herb Street's dog was here.

Please.

Wait, that was his dog?

Yeah.

I almost stepped on him.

What?

I did see it go like a golden ring.

No, because I didn't know it.

You're not expecting to look down and there's a dog at your feet.

Hold on a second.

He did see him as friendly as he looks like on TV.

Wait, so if my voice is gone.

If it wasn't his dog, you would have stepped on it because it's his dog that you would have felt bad.

No, it was going to be an accident either way, but I didn't realize I was wondering why who's dog is this?

But very well-behaved dog.

Very well-behaved, but still.

Why are you running around dog?

You don't agree with that.

No, no.

Be the dog.

I'm going to be a dog.

I was going to say, yeah, I am an accident.

I'm an accident.

I'm an accident.

I love my pit lab mix at home.

I've been watching this.

I love you.

You can't wait to be back.

This was pro dogs.

Pro dogs.

Yes, we talked about dog adoption and Subaru's.

But we talked about dog adoption and Subaru's at the same time.

Very well-behaved dog.

If my dogs were here, they would be running up and down.

Oh, my God.

Up and down the aisle.

They would be peeing on cables.

They would be probably running away from people, hiding, barking, whining.

It'd be madness.

This dog was not very well-behaved, but also walking around without a leash.

I feel like Kirk's pushing it in.

Is that a San Francisco thing?

I've seen a lot of people walking around.

I think it's a Californian thing.

It is.

I look down upon if you walk with you.

You have a well.

You know what?

I was in London over the summer family vacation.

And I noticed all kinds.

This was one of my big takeaways.

All kinds of dogs, not unleashes.

But they were so well-behaved.

No issues.

So, Mr. Kelly.

Is it us?

Are we like, maybe it's the non-calibre one of the problems?

Yeah.

Maybe.

I don't know.

I like to think it has fun.

But like, I don't.

Well, the other thing.

One more San Francisco thing.

Here we go.

Please.

The public transportation officials are like motivational speakers.

Have you run into this?

No.

I'm walking down the street.

And the guy sitting there off the bar stop.

You know, they're to help you if you're not sure too.

And he says, who's winning?

Are we winning today?

Let's win today.

I'm like, man, that is a big difference.

Philadelphia.

You say that, man.

No one's here.

But there were people smiling talking back to him.

I'm like, I kind of liked it a little.

But I'll be honest.

What do you think?

Did you win today?

No.

I don't think I did.

But, you know what?

The podcast is so long.

There's always tomorrow.

There's always tomorrow.

Okay.

Those are ex-factors.

Are there any storylines, Deontay, that you feel like everyone's just talking this darn old May?

Is there like an angle that you feel like isn't getting enough attention?

Are there one of those storylines that you feel like this actually is the thing?

This is the narrative that comes out of this game if X-Team wins.

Anything like that that you can think of?

Honestly, no.

I think that we've hit the saturation point on all the serious stuff.

I actually am much more invested in a very unserious thing, which is far.

One of the last ex-factors I wrote about was kind of like this weird correlation is not causation thing,

but between the Kubiak family and the Shanahan family when they've been in this position,

where they have an impending head coaching job waiting on them.

This goes back to 1987 when my Shanahan was getting a Raider job.

I forget who they play in a Super Bowl.

I might have been in the bucket years.

I got blown out.

42 to 10 before he takes a Raider job when he's leaving Denver.

Gary Kubiak, he ended up not getting to the Super Bowl,

but if you remember that 2005 Broncos team that had statistically one of the best offences and deepences in the league,

they get totally dominated by Pittsburgh and the ASC championship game that year.

And then he goes on to become the Texans head coach.

And then obviously you have Kyle Shanahan, who, funnily enough,

is the only coach on that staff that still has to like live with the shame of the 28-3 comeback.

Nobody seems to ever bring it up with Dan Quinn or anybody else.

That's true.

That coach had never gets brought up.

The guy who was running the defense was just getting totally shredded in the second half.

But obviously everybody kind of knows that one, right?

You have the 28-3 comeback.

And now we've got Clint Kubiak in a very similar position.

And I would say, even more so, if you were a superstitious guy,

you have got to feel the worst that you possibly could.

Because most people are saying that the Patriots have no shot.

And I mean, you know this as a Philadelphiaan.

I remember when it was Jonathan Ganon holding this seat.

And people still to this day, you could bring them up around an Eagles fan.

And people will go directly to that Super Bowl and talk about it almost as though

he was intentionally sabotaging the team's opportunity.

You wouldn't have known if he was.

I'm just saying with the way it got hard.

That was a shot at John Kerry.

I'm sorry.

I'm not here to crack you on that.

So all right.

You know, you had the take earlier this week, Billy, that Clint Kubiak looking ahead.

Do you trust it?

Do we trust him?

Maybe they're picking up some steam that he's looking ahead.

And that's the problem?

That's the problem with this.

And how we're going to write about it is like what happens when they get to the red zone

and then the drive solves hot and you kick a pill going, you end up losing by four.

People are going to say that Clint Kubiak wasn't focused enough.

Is it fair to Clint?

Yes.

Probably not.

Oh no.

You know what I remember?

That Eagles Patriot Super Bowl 2017.

It was like a Wednesday night.

And Bill Belichek shows up fort side to see a Minnesota Timber Wolf's game.

I'm going.

That had to make the round to the Eagles hotel.

This guy thinks so little of you.

He thinks he can go spend two and a half hours watching.

I don't even know who's on the Timber Wolf's at that point.

But he thinks he can spend two and a half hours doing that.

He doesn't need to game plan for you.

Goddamn.

Who was on the Timber Wolf?

Is that like Ricky Rubio era?

I mean, you're not even talking about good Timber Wolf's play.

No, this wasn't.

This wasn't him, man.

In the mix up.

Who knows?

The narratives will come out one way or another.

All right.

We're going to take a break.

During the break, you guys think about.

Am I ready to give my official prediction?

I know you've probably been given 400 predictions this week.

This is your official one that I'm going to hold feet to the fire.

If you get it right, if you get it wrong, I'm going to bring it up Sunday night.

And say, no, no, I don't care what else you said all week.

That was your official prediction.

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Here on the Ringer NFL show, I gave you guys about three seconds to think about that during the break.

That's in real time.

Of course, the listeners had a different experience.

I gave you guys about three seconds.

are favored. The overrunner is 45 and a half in this game. You're right. It feels like

everyone's picking the Seahawks, but the line's only four and a half. It's not 10 and a half

here. What is your official pick for Super Bowl Sixth?

God, I cannot believe I have sand this on Bill Simmons' airwaves. This is going to get

me done so hard. I kind of have Seahawks 34 Patriots 14.

Oh, I think this is going to be a runaway game, frankly. I would not be surprised at all

if we get that opening script, Patriots touchdown. Oh, my goodness. Maybe Drake may

can do this. You get to kick off to appreciate your heat in the game 7-7, right? I feel like

it's going to be one of those kinds of games. And it's not a knock on the Patriots

in their journey. To this point, I wrote about this last night, but you just look at all

the things that you would typically want to see from a real legitimate Super Bowl winning

team. And New England just hasn't been pushed enough for us to gather that data. It's

not to say that they're incapable. We're just working off of an incomplete data set.

We don't know what this team's personality is like if it's chasing two possessions,

right? Because they just haven't had to spend much time in that kind of mode. We don't

know what this team's reaction has been. I guess we do know, and it hasn't been positive,

but it's been playing against the defense as good as Seattle's, right? They have been

able to survive really bad offensive performances and a lot of turnovers throughout this playoff

run because their defense on the other side has been playing like the damn 2000 Ravens.

Yeah. And unless you believe that that's exactly who this team is, which is not what I think

when I watch them and not what the tape would say when you're comparing the Seahawks to the

Patriots right now, I think you're going to have a hard time laying out a case for New

England to win, especially when comfortably, unless you're telling me that Drake May is

going to dig into his 2023 Patrick Mahomes, mid-Aughts to late 2010s, Tom Brady asked

top type of performance. Unless you think you're getting that on Sunday, it is just hard

for me to paint a scenario where the Patriots end up winning a football game.

All right. Seahawks blow out not a very entertaining game. Seahawks win 34-14, maybe early on

like Diate said. It feels like they got some momentum. They can pull off the upset, but

as we move along, it does not. He's not a coward. Why did he call himself a coward? Billy,

he just picked a 20-point win. He's also a man of content because he knows if that happens

Bill's live right after we have to be reacting to a blowout Patriots loss.

I don't do numbers. Yeah. Yeah. That's good for the ringer as a whole, I feel like.

Yeah. Well, what would be better? Where would people tune in more to the Bill Simmons

podcast, which you can watch live on Netflix right after the game? If it's a blowout, or

if it's like a last second heartbreaker, maybe the Patriots do something stupid, or Sam

Donald engineers, a game-winning drive, what draws more viewers? This actually might be

the biggest question. That's a great question. I think heartbreak. I think so too.

I think you want to see live pain and live pain. Yeah, I think the shot in front, yeah.

The Bill Simmons shot in front, I think we would draw more of an audience.

We'll check that out either way, you know? And then like Mina said, if the sea ox

suffer that, people who tune in to mean a couple tuning to her after.

After. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. You can record that. Yeah.

And that's like live. You record on your YouTube or every watch.

Yeah. All right. 34, 14 Deontas says, Billy Gill, the man who this week brought you the

ball hammock. Did I say that? Is that what it is?

I think so. Okay. All right. You want to know my score? Give me your

prediction. Yeah. All right. I'm going to go with Patriots, 29 like a sea

hawks, 17. Whoa. Yeah. Okay. Really see. I think that we're going to have that from

you all week. It's a surprise. Well, truth be told, I suspected that everyone's

going to say sea hawks. So I wanted to be interesting headed down into the

last page. So I said, you know what? Let's get, let's get a Patriots favorable

score here. And then what I did was I crunched the numbers. And by that, I mean, I put from

numbers one to 37 in a random number generator. And the first number that I got was 29. And

the second number that I got was 17. Okay. So that will be the score of the game. And

how will we get there? You ask that I had to nine. I had to I had to work that backwards

after I had got the score. I think we're obviously going to be in store for a Sam

Darnold regression game that we haven't seen yet. You know, I think maybe we have some broken

plays on the defense of the sea hawks. Patriots score early. Then Sam starts getting a little

desperate, starts saying, oh my god, am I going to get back to the Super Bowl? This is my moment.

I don't want to make a mistake. Starts getting in his head. And that's when you guys know the

mistakes start happening. A couple turnovers here, maybe a pick six here or there. Patriots start

kind of running up the score a little bit. And sea hawks can't keep up, can't catch up at the end.

To the point of me in a content expert. That's a master class right there. Get to the end and

work your way back. Okay. That score. No, absolutely. That's 29-17. Say that's score.

Gummy right there. Who's you going to score? Gummy. I'm a ringer NFL show. No, please.

We're done with that. Those things are over. Sorry. So lack no more score. Gummy. All right,

let me ask you this. This is a content media question as well. So, you know, I did not think the

sea hawks offense was going to be good this year. I ripped their off season. I said, give me a break.

That offensive line with Arnold. Clint Kubiak's not Bill Walsh. They're not going to be able to

figure this out. And so, my friends, great radio station in Seattle, 7, 10 years,

fancy at all. They had me on a couple weeks ago. And they played the clip of me giving their

off season a C-minus. It was all in good fun. It was fun. But if what Billy says is true

and Sam Darnold is the reason why the sea hawks lose this game,

do I get to be like, well, see? Or is it? No, they got to the Super Bowl. She'll just don't even

bring that up anymore. What do you think, Deontan? The petty, the little bit of pettiness I have in me,

which I have as well. I will say you got to bring that back around. It's all good nature.

It's all good nature. Okay. You know, but I think that it's fair to bring that back around for

sure. All right. We'll see. Yes. 29 17 has happened 13 times in NFL history. Ever in a Super Bowl?

Or you don't know. Never in a Super Bowl. Okay. Ever in a playoff? Once in a Super Bowl.

Once in a Super Bowl. What Super Bowl? It was the Colts and the Bears in 2007. You are correct.

The real game. Yep. The Devon Hester. I'm like, who is this handsome man in this school jacket?

Who I'm going to follow up on a radio hit? Oh, Devon Hester. Okay. That was not the onsite kick.

onsite kick was Saints Colts. That's right. Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. Colts. It's great in the first day.

Yeah. It's great attention to all of you. That's wrong. Tens of purposes. It's Friday. Yeah.

You're yeah. That's right. So I like what I like what you did there. All right.

I got a week one. I wish I was more courageous, but I'm just sticking to the one I gave out

Monday and a pick at giving out throughout the week. I do think there's a chance of a Seahawks

blowout. So I like that we're represented on the ringer NFL show with Deontan's picked.

The Seahawks blowout. We're represented with a Patriots upset with Billy's very scientific

approach to this 29 17. I'm going 24 60. I think it could be a bit of a snooze of a superbowl

fun being I hope it's not we're going to be on the ringer NFL show together Sunday night.

So I hope we got a lot to talk about, but I actually think this could be one of those where both

teams are a little conservative in the first half is low scoring. You get to the second half is

I go the Patriots are in it by the score, but it doesn't really feel like they're in it.

And then the Seahawks had a late score and they win this game 24 16. They do cover

about the underheads there. So you know what? We didn't talk about this earlier, but I think we

did a good job. One of us can say we're right most likely after this game, right? Yeah. I feel like

we hit all angles. Now Deontan had a great question in our little group chat. I don't know if you

saw this Billy. Let's finish finish the segment with this. Next year. Who are the teams maybe

right now? Just gut feel that you feel like we could be talking about on radio row. It can't be

the Seahawks. It can't be the Patriots. New teams Deontay. Who do you think? What is the gut say?

I'm nothing if I'm not a caricature of myself. So I'm going to say for maybe the fourth year in a

row that Baltimore will be here. Okay. It's got to hit one of these years. Yeah. One of these

years. So to Billy's one, I'll give my answer. And then I'll work my way back. You get a great

Declan Doyle offensive coordinating type of season. You get Jesse Mentor trying to call Hamilton

into the defensive player of the year. You get a healthy, great season out of Lamar Jackson.

And that's what we're talking about for Super Bowl 61. Okay. On the NFC side, I think you get the old

man, Matthew Stafford comes back. They give this one more shot and they're able to get over the

hump next year. So I think we're going to get a Rams Ravens Super Bowl 61. I like that. Billy,

what do you think? Well, here's the thing. I was going to go with Rams, but I don't want to do that

because I don't want to have the same teams, right? I'm going to present everyone. So every fan base

feels like they're part of this conversation. I think the Rams are the favorites according to

Fandall. Yeah. Because it's just like they could have gotten there either of these last two years.

And if Stafford's back's not going to fall apart and I'm done predicting when it's going to have

back issues, it's like they've got McVay. By the way, they've got two first round picks. They've

got that extra pick this year. So yeah, I think that's a, I'm glad we're represented with at least

one Rams picking. Okay. I feel like you are going to say the bills. So I'm not going to say the bills.

I'm not. You're not going to say the bills? No. Okay. Who are you going to say? I picked the bills

this year. Okay. So you don't want to do that again. All right. You're not going to pick the bills.

I'll go. You want to look at yours? No, no, I got it. I got it. I got it. I'll go with the bills

since you're not going to say the bills because that's what I believe. That's what I feel. You want to

coach who doesn't believe in paternity leave, doesn't believe in being there when his kids are born.

Correct. That's a football guy. I want someone who is so focused on his football family. He's not

focused on his actual family. Yeah. That's most of them. Yeah. So well. Yeah. But he's got a good

quarterback. Okay. Yeah. It's got it. Look. It's good. It's like it. It's got to happen

one of these. You got a break right for Josh. At some point in time, you would think, right? Yeah.

So let's say bills and then and this is not really going out that much on a limb. I don't think

bears. Oh, that one. I had that one written down. I thought about that. No, I'm going to switch. I

wrote down like for free. All right. Okay. Yeah. The bears, you know, the bears are going to be one

of these teams that in August, you could be like in one score games. They won all these games at the

game. They're lucky. But I'm also like Caleb Williams might be the MVP next year. And I'm Ben

Johnson with that, you know, hairless physique. Well, knows what he can do with another year

coaching under his belt. Yeah. Caleb Williams guy. Yeah. I was hoping we talked about him today.

I was wearing Caleb Williams shirt underneath this. Really? You own a Caleb Williams shirt?

Let me see. What has he got there? That's pretty cool. This is Caleb Williams. Did you buy that?

It was at a freebie. I bought it and I expensive it at my previous job. Oh, all right. I'm going to go

with you and bears. All right. I'm going to have about the Cowboys get over the hump next year.

Okay. No. Now you're being silly. No. I mean, listen, they got the quarterback. I thought Brian

Shottonheimer did a good job this year. They got, you know, Quinn and Williams laid in the season.

They got some draft capital. Maybe the Cowboys bounce back and get to the Super Bowl for the first

time. What's it been 30 years? 30 years. 30 years. There you go. Cowboys. And you know what? This

is just going to be I'm going to pick the matchup that's going to make the most people upset, I

think. Chargers. I'm taking the hipster crown from the hipsters. I'm going to say the Chargers,

Mike McDaniel and Jim Harvaya, you're not going to be able to make those jokes about Justin Herbert

that I make all the time anymore because they're going to get over the hump next year.

You want to talk about the first Super Bowl that breaks records for hate watch? That is 100%

going to be the internet. We are absolutely dunking on whoever in some blues in this game.

Sorry. So this is good. We got six teams represented. I forgot about me. That's a good,

that's a good AFCT to sneaky get in there. Good. I think they're going to be good. All right.

There you go. All right. That has been this segment. Thank you both. I'm going to come right back

and do the Ringer 107, but Billy Deonte, I will see you Sunday night as we recap Super Bowl 60,

my friends. It's a brand new location. Brand new location. All right. We'll be right back with

the Ringer 107. Today's Ringer 107 is brought to you by Fandall. Final five picks of the season.

We're down one to the Ringer fantasy show, but we get to make five picks. That's the role that

this week. So we pick the pick against the spread, the total, and then any three picks that are

minus 25 or better. So let's get to it. You already know my pick. You heard my pick. I'm taking

the Seahawks minus four and a half. That's my first selection. And I'm taking under 45 and a half.

I just think both defenses have an edge. Both defenses are pretty good. I'm a little nervous

about special teams or a defensive touchdown. But you know what? I'm still taking the under. So

those are my first two picks. Seahawks against the spread and the under. Next pick.

First half under 22 and a half total points. I think both teams come in and say we're not

given this game away early. We don't need to be heroes. Let's feel out the opposing defenses

and see how this goes. So I've got the under first half, 22 and a half total points.

Fourth pick. Matt Collins over 24 and a half receiving yards. I feel like they're going to skim

up one explosive play. Matt Collins. If they're down by a lot, now they got to throw the football.

So maybe he hits that over at that point. But that's my fourth pick. Matt Collins over 24 and a half

receiving yards and final pick. My voice is going. So I'm glad this is my final pick. I got a high

dream before Sunday night. Remondre Stevenson under 14 and a half rushing attempts. That's minus

122. I don't think the Patriots are going to be able to run the football in this game. I don't

think they're really going to try to establish the run in this game. I think they're going to put

the ball in Drake May's hand. So I like under remondre Stevenson 14 and a half rushing attempts.

Today's Ringer 107 was brought to you by Fandall odds subject to change. All right. Great week

in San Francisco. Thank you to Christopher Sutton for producing Cory McConnell on video and Ben

Cruz on social had a lot of fun with Billy and the rest of our guests. We will be back Sunday night

after the game. That will be the next show in your feet. Appreciate everyone listening. We'll talk to

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