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Listen, it was a great order. They could have gone in any direction starting with Kevin Wilde's doing half-baked ideas

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Nathan Hubbard is gonna come on to talk about the Masters and Kachella

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I

Think it was a pretty pretty lame March badness

Other than that you can uh the buzzer-breeder coming back against Duke the the woman's tournament

The most fun thing that happened in the whole women's final four which I really enjoy it but the games

You know we couldn't really get there with the games

But the most fun thing was Gino

Gino for some reason just losing his mind with Don Staley and then it seemed like Don Staley was gonna kick his ass

I love that I think Don Staley punching Gino would have been the highlight of 2026 sadly it didn't happen

But that was probably the highlight of that and then the men's

It was fine. You know the Michigan Yukon game it was threatening to become good for a while

It never really a hundred percent got there every time it felt like Yukon was gonna do the Yukon thing something

They'd miss a lap or Michigan would hit a three

I was very happy for my brother Jalen Rose congrats to him

um

and then

I don't know in 2026 you're gonna look back at that tournament and probably just remember

The Yukon Duke game and he like who won oh yeah, Michigan

I know a lot of Michigan people they're all very excited

Between this and what's happened with the football this decade um

Maybe it's like a small glass of settle down juice for the Michigan fans don't don't turn people against you um

Big picture

NBA was

We had a wimpy injury last night

That I assume he's gonna come back and play one more game

But it did kind of break my brain for a second because um if he doesn't get the 65th game

It throws a whole bunch of stuff out of whack including defensive quarter of the year

Which I don't think anybody has spent one minute thinking about the big game that happened last night though is was Denver versus Portland

Where Denver's basically could lock down the three seed pretty much by winning because the Lakers are going backwards and

Portland's up 18 on them in the fourth quarter

Portland is I think at 1.24 for 46 from three or so they were just flames are coming out there

But they're just making everything and Denver's hanging around hanging around because they're so good offensively now that Aaron Gordon's back

um

You kind of can't give up on a Denver game. So what happens they come back

They force over time they really could have won a regulation

Yoakish Miss like an eight footer and then they end up winning in

In overtime and it was just an awesome awesome home win Aaron Gordon was huge and once again

It's what we talked about on Sunday like watch out for the nuggets

I don't think Yoakish's MVP case is dead

I don't Michael Pino went on Zach Lowe's pod on Thursday and and then wrote a piece for the ringer on Monday saying

I'm voting for Yoakish and I really got a look at this over the next five days because

You're supposed to treat each season individually

And the truth is if you just look at Yoakish's numbers and the fact that they're now up to a three seed and I really think you have to be

A top three seed or one of have one of the five best records in the league

To really seriously be considered for MVP unless it's like 2006 when I

I picked Kobe that year that really wasn't a candidate

We have awesome candidates to share

um

But this Yoakish season it's the most special offensive season he's ever had

It's one of the great offensive seasons anyone's ever had in the history of the league

There's gonna be a three seed and probably win 54 55 games where they land

With a lot of obstacles

Aaron Gordon miss over half the year

Um Christian Brown missed half the year they were incorporating a bunch of new guys

They had really bad luck at the end of games like a lot of games that they just blew and and should have won

In the case for for Shay is a little different because they have the best record in the league which matters

Shay has been the best crunch time guy in the league but I

Even though Jaylen Williams was out and they had some other guys bounce in and out that team is just a bunch of dragons like

You know every night they have 11 guys that can throw out there that would be the envy of almost every other team in the league

So right now on

Tuesday I still feel like I'm voting for Shay

But

You know over the weekend I was started to look at when be a little more seriously and the minutes thing

I can't get past but from an impact standpoint. I was like fuck

Um, it's hard to imagine a more impactful guy these last two months then Yokech beats him on Saturday

um

Yokech

Again yesterday with another like ridiculous. He's had five of like the nine most ridiculous games of the year

um

So I i'm just my point is

I haven't crossed him off

As an MVP pick yet and one of the things I want to look at the last five days here is

Really diving into stuff like if you split the two guys which team would be better

Who had an easier scenario who had the most memorable season because I think that matters too when you think

I have the the narrative about the mb I had the four questions. I was asked myself and one of them is like

What are you gonna remember first about this season?

I

Think you'd have a case for remembering when be first this season because just watching him blossom into this generational alien and watching this first

Rip off wins like they did might be the first thing you remember but Yokech would be

Probably one of the next two things and so it sga so it's just it's a complicated one

It's really hard. I want to make sure I get it right, but I just have not ruled out Yokech

So I wanted to make

Make that point um all right. We're gonna take a break

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All right my friend Kevin Wilde is here. He's been coming on since

2008 2009 range of my podcast to do half-baked ideas you can watch him on first things first with nick right

Chris Bussard on fs1 last time you were on we came up with uh

We two different ideas one one one involved the tower for food

But then the the one about the one about playing credit card roulette and that would just be the gimmick of an actual restaurant

Dave Chang said he would fund that right now

Let's go. Yeah, he said credit card roulette. I'm in can we franchise this and then I never heard from him again

But he was excited for for 10 minutes

So you come on you do half-baked ideas

These are not fully baked ideas normally we talk sports ahead of time

I have a lot of stuff you have a lot of stuff. I have a meal meal bag questions. Oh, that I get to answer

Yeah, yeah, that's my dream to have this become like a shark tank. Yeah, this is so I have I can

I can judge half-baked ideas. Yeah, if it's too baked. It's too good. I'm like. That's just an idea

I have six of them that I can do as well, but why don't you go give us your give us your starter give us

I'll give a short lead off hitter

It's a it's a little bit of sports just to

Prime the wheels

First off

Lucas going to Spain to get his hamstring checked out

Austin Austin Reeves staying here

So automatically you got to look at Austin like

Why aren't you going to Spain? Look do you not do not care? I'm headed to Spain

I don't know why it seems it's Spain is nice this time of year. I'd go to Spain

But maybe Austin whatever he's got commitments here

I'm not a hundred percent sure how consulates work. Oh, where you know where like all right

I know like the like embassies work like if you're in the you know

Embassy in France you're actually in the USA I think in the United States embassy. Yeah

Could there be some embassy adjacent doctor's office

Maybe exclusively for athletes who need timely European medical procedures

domestically so in the German embassy

Wherever that is we will see a lot of let's there. Yes

Get your platelets spun right here. I don't need to go to Germany. All I would also are

The answer the FDA would you know say this is not how it works

I would try to say it was eco-friendly save on fuel prices nowadays

It's an eco-friendly way to get global medicine

Maybe it's just an athlete carve-out thing

So you don't have to go all the way to Spain. Luca can stay here go to the meetings. What's going on?

That's the idea. I really love this and

Like we have the Canadian embassy is

Like kind of further away, but in my neighborhood

But it's a big big big place that I've always been fascinated by. It's just huge

And I was wondering what happens there and whether like when hockey players are in town playing the king

So they just get to drop by the Canadian embassy. Yeah, I have a little baths

Yeah, just what happens is it like the masters where they have that cool lounge that all the masters players can play at

You just go into have some drinks and food like do they have that at the Canadian embassy?

I don't know I've never been to an embassy. It doesn't sound like you have either

No, the other option and again, this needs more research. This is why it's half big

There's a certain amount of distance you can get from the coastline where you're just in international waters

So you can have more of like a floating boat. Yeah, that you can go out to if you don't want to again

That's pretty far and I think with the with the waves it might not be good for your hamstring unless it's a huge aircraft

So you're talking about like those like they'll have those gambling boats in the south

Yes, you go off the coast and all of a sudden you can gamble legally once you're further. Yeah, no one knows what the jurisdiction is like

Yeah, we're actually doing Spanish medicine here. There's topos. It's a nice vibe for Lucas

You don't go all the way to Spain. That's idea number one. I always thought that would have been a great Steven Segal movie in the 90s

I wish Kyle Brant could just pop in for two minutes

um

He's working on one of those gambling boats in Louisiana. It's like off the coast

But meanwhile it's about to be one of the he's like a disgraced used to be uh, I don't know green beret now

He's like disgraced. He's like a blackjack deal or one of those things. Yeah, but they're about to

Oceans 11 the big gambling boat

And thank god he's there as a blackjack dealer because then you would also get Vegas hands and he'd be feeling out the guys as they do the hands

In the first 30 minutes of the movie. So I don't like I don't like how these guys are communicating something to you with these guys

Can I add something to it? Yeah, do you have to do our yellow stone? Of course, okay

You know where they dump the bodies at yellow stones. Oh, wow. There's no jersey

It's a little bit of that. Yeah, so calls trying to play by the rules

He calls the sheriff you like that's not my jurisdiction calls the other sheriff. Yeah, you're on your own man

We don't touch that. Yeah, what there's no authorities here. I have to do it all by myself

So over a die hard situation cops can't control it. So do you think the embassy works that way?

Uh

Because

Might for all we know I think you think go there. I mean

I think you're just under the rules of your own country

But again, this is why it's not fake. I think if I do a certain amount of research, it just becomes really a bad idea

So I I stop at one point and just keep it happy

It would be one of my favorite things that Trump could just come off the top rope and get involved with where he gets upset that

Our athletes are flying overseas to get medical treatment and he just decides

You know, I'm just I'm just you know laterally whatever is fair there is fair here

And then all of a sudden athletic performance just sky brackets in America not a bad idea

Uh, all right number two. This is a

All right, I see that you're you're you're walking a lot. You're still into walking. Oh for whole since covid

Yeah, okay, do you go anywhere?

Um

Sometimes yes, but it's always has to be some sort of circuitous route back

Okay, yeah, yeah, I know you don't live that you don't just you know run away a couple times the couple times we've walked

It was like a special walk, but we walked all the way to the Santa Monica pier which I wouldn't recommend

Very long walk that's that's too far. Yeah, okay, so

Last night it went to a Easter brunch

I was I was just going hard at the Easter brunch several desserts

Oh, blueberry cheesecake

I had a carrot cake. I had a lot of lamb with the mint jelly. It's going hard

Come home about six o'clock. I like I should go for a run

And it's Sunday. I'm supposed to be on this running program. So I have to run about six miles

Usually I like to run to somewhere go get a coffee. It's like a nice little break point or

You know have some destination, right? Everything's closed on Sunday. It's late Sunday night's Easter

I've got nowhere to run so now I just run in a big circle and I get back and I was like I wish I had some sort of goal

I'm calling this uber health

You you you call uber or yeah, it's just a plan. I just enter in my plan in the uber algorithm takes care of it

Someone comes and gets either my remote control or my car keys and it's aligned with my performance plan on Strava

And they drop it off

Four miles away and like hey, here's the pin. We dropped it off at the Santa Monica Pier if you want your car keys

You you've got to go get it and you sign up for it so every day. Oh, I don't feel like running

I'm just gonna, you know, but you have to run to get your car

Yeah, you're stuck you you have you have to be motivated to get out because uber health has dropped something off four miles from you

And there's a discount because

It's promoting good health. It's promoting people staying in shape and trying to better themselves

Yeah, so I don't know who's paying for that again. Maybe it's a government thing if you want to you could of course call a friend

Which then combats epidemic male loneliness. So that's good too

You're just a huge epidemic right now you're right. You don't have to worry about male loneliness because you have a best friend

I know what people are being paid to talk to me, but outside of that

I'm just you know, no loneliness is just an epidemic

Have you have you hashed out the neck right thing properly with Jacobi?

No, I don't know what you're talking about

Well, I think he felt like he was your buddy and now Nick writes your buddy and I don't

Know Jacobi's grandfather didn't know. Okay. I just want to make sure you guys are good

I know for guy

Of course. Yes again, and again. I really need

More friends that again aren't being paid to spend time with me since Jacobi and I were co-workers for you

Did a dozen years do you think there's a fixed amount of

Total time you can spend with another male friend before you basically just run out because I haven't run out with house

I've spent so much time with house and I just feel like what it like we're like LeBron now

Where LeBron's like is he gonna play 24 seasons? Why not?

No, I think you I think I

think

My relationships are so

Susinct

That yeah, there's plenty of runway well, you plus you have the Irish goodbye

So people you always leave them wanting more you're the master of the Irish goodbye

And now it's weird. It's just we're like added dinner. I'll just drop. I'll just drop my credit card

My wife has an Irish goodbye friend her friend meeks and it's like a known thing and she kind of like where's it like as a badge of honor

Is it only in bar situations because I it's like it's like gatherings. It's when they're all together

It's when the like somebody's birthday party. I mean, it's kind of like a known thing now that she's gonna do it

I think the whole world would be better off if we did it. I Irish goodbye like my son's basketball game if my wife and I are there

It does the hello's are great. Goodbye. Is there terrible

That's a great good. Bonds are terrible. It's great. Yeah, you hey, but you don't need to say goodbye

Can I give you a mailbag one pretty good? Can I give you a quick thing on hello's? Yeah, this is maybe a little Larry Davidish. Yeah

Hello's have gone

hugs and and big

Bounds and like oh my god. It's like

Hey, what's up?

I was just just one fist bump. I'm good a solid old school handshake. We're way more connected than we were in like the 80s and 90s

Because now we have tax and FaceTime. There's all these different ways you can stay in contact with some of it

You first time you see oh, what's up? Like you know, yeah, yeah, more performative a little bit

Can I give you a I'm gonna interspersa mailbag questions between to break up your half-pakes. This is from Megan in Somerville

Megan um, she sent this on March 4th and wanted to wish happy international women's day to our fellow female listeners

But now it's April 6th. She lives near Harvard had this half-baked idea that when LeBron retired

He should get to do some sort of back to school thing because he never went to college. He went right to the pros

Could you do your career in reverse? She said it's not fully fleshed out. I don't know if it's related to be documentary or horrible scripted movie

What school would he go to?

Harvard probably would allow but Ohio State would and then I started thinking like is that

Is that like a the Rodney Dangerfield movie is that the updated remake of

Rodney

It's like the one of the best NBA players of all time retires

But then goes to college for one more year Rodney Dangerfield style and he's rich. Yeah, there's something like Billy Madison style

Yeah, there's something here. Is he playing basketball? I don't I think initially he's not playing

But then there's some injuries on the team and he really likes the coach and he realizes

He could still rekindle his eligibility and maybe come back and now it's a sports movie. I mean sports movie cross it back to school

He's got to be so old though. That's the problem like he's like 44

But he's not old enough. He would don't like it works. I think a little bit better with Carmelo and Syracuse Jerry McNamara's the coach

Oh, and he still has the three years of eligibility left

There you go his buddy his buddy is can't get any recruits

Like and like and then all of the sudden it's like Jerry. We need you a final game like Jerry's got his he's had his uniform under

Yeah, but I think LeBron is still

He's too famous. Okay. No, nothing's too famous. He's too good at basketball at this point like LeBron would still be

I mean, this is super obvious, but it's insane the number one draft pick

Right here. So maybe it's maybe it's Chris Paul

Chris Paul's great. Chris Paul never had an end

Follow wake for it. He's going back to wake for us for unfinished business. I love that idea

I feel like everybody would come to his party too. I'm like at the quippers

That's all the kids are running go they make you go to Chris Paul's house today never gonna be excited for it

I like that a lot. All right. What's your next outfit?

This one's great

This one is great and this is almost so good. It's probably a real idea, which means it's a bad half-fixed idea

Here's the scene. I'll just say I'm the main character at this point. Okay

I gather up all of the parents in town all the sports parents

Me and my team of coaches

And I say look you want to be involved in my program. So let's say it's basketball

I'll tell you right now. There's zero chance your kid is going pro

And then my buddy comes up and he comes in from right from my left

He says there's zero chance your kids going D1 then the other guy or D2

Like they'd be lucky to go D3 and then comes back it comes back to me

We're here to do one thing and one thing only

To turn

Your child

Into an intermural champion

It's a full train all it's all the whole program is designed to train intermural champions at my Easter brunch. Yeah

the

Family friend

son is playing

Like beer league hockey. He played hockey throughout his whole career. It's like yeah, this is

Like almost the end game is to have a bunch of again melon and this guy friends playing beer league hockey

So it's in the in the avenue towards beer league hockey is probably different than the avenue

Towards the NHL the avenue towards intermural champion is different than trying to go to the NHL

You don't need to learn a bunch of stuff. You just need to learn stuff that's going to work

In to win intermurals and guess what if you're the intermural champion

You don't feel as good as an NBA champion. Obviously there's no financial rewards. You're not rich and famous

But when you're holding

You are the champion of that day on that basketball court. There's only happiness only goes up so high and you are there

So it's part of the program you teach the kids how to play flag football while they're also having a couple beers

Yes

We had it had it compete when you're really hung over from the night before and you have an eight o'clock basketball game

I can't so I try I need probably a real trainer to tell me what moves you don't need but like I'm playing chess

And there's chess openings that you can learn

That if you master this chess opening you can get to a certain level you can get to whatever 1200

But after 1200

Your opening is no longer that is just easily

Thwarted

Yeah, so I'm just going to teach the kids like right here this move works in intermural you will never work again

It won't work in D3 college vassal but intermurals this thing is

Great this spin move is great. This little like slow euro step is great. I don't know what the moves are so baseball

Instead of teaching kids all these kids who think they're

We're gonna play Cooperstown for little league when I'm 12 and then I'm gonna go play bet and then I'm gonna play college baseball

And say no, no, no

Let me teach you how to be a softball slow pitch pitcher right now. Yeah, let's start working on this right

Yeah, let's start working

You can do like a thousand of these a day

You're kind of spin up in the air you're gonna be like a machine

You'll be great and you will have a you will have a 30 year career never make a dollar

Well, you'll be great in your town people talk about you

You'll 30 years sometimes it can be 40 and then if you're in Chicago you learn how to play without the gloves

What right like in roblo and about last night they would play the softball no gloves

That's the Chicago

It's real thing or is that with just in roblo that's a real Chicago thing. I think they don't pretty sure softball gloves and she got no gloves

There's no cool. I have no clue. I had no idea that was thing. I've met plenty of people from Chicago. It's never come up

Maybe it was the thing in the 80s and they got rid of it after too many people broke their heads. Yeah

Yeah, watch it on the last day they're playing softball no gloves. Hey, where's Brian broke his thumb? Oh, yeah

What do you think about these gloves?

It's a reason we have them. No, no, we're in Chicago. At Chicago men or men

They're eating sausages drinking heavy beer and playing softball. Not even like a not even a mitt one of those

No, watch the movie first scene in the nc and are both softball no gloves

Not even a handball mitt nothing nothing at all. Oh, right

Uh, all right. I really like that one. I like setting the expectations early

And just having lived through it with both of my kids and watching all the parents and how much time and money is spent on these

travel teams and

all the stuff and and happiness is

Being the champion and being happy is not just for the pros someone's got to be the inner mural champion. It'll work

All right, can I give you another half bag? I've got a very fast one literally

What go give me a half big one and I'll go fast. This is uh

This is almost fully baked

But it's from Marcus Reed and it's about how much time he listened to the night made up NBA awards pod Zack and I did last night

Mm-hmm everybody loves awards is the premise we love MVP or like rookie the air we get all this podcast content out of it

He thinks that

How we have in the Oscars lead actor and supporting actor

That there should be a supporting actor

MVP basically the Scotty Pippin Award

For the best number two

Of the season

And I was thinking about this and I was like well, that's a dumb idea and then I was thinking I would have argued about this on seven podcasts that

No, no, it's actually Stefan Castle. I love this. I think it's pretty good because the whole point of these awards is you're trying to measure blueprints

So I almost think that's too good of an idea for a half-baked

That's like a fully baked just should be an idea

Yeah, is it is it named the Scotty Pippin Award? He named it the Scotty Pippin Award, which would be great

Because you know Scotty

This confidence seems to kind of come a go depending on whether somebody told them that they love the last dance that week

um

If you had his own Scotty Pippin Award, maybe he could let the last dance go

But we have like you know the cub macaille where the Scotty Pippin people like that, but then you think like this year

um

There would be an also a funny outcome of

If the Celtics won the title again

And it was the finals MVP conversation, but then there's also the Scotty Pippin Award

And maybe the same guy could win most of the votes for both. I don't know. It just feels like there's a lot coming up

Who would win yours the only weird thing about the Scotty Pippin Award is

Like I would um

So I think this year Jamal Murray would have won

Okay, but then

With Aaron Gort. Okay, then you might as well just go all the way

Just make like a Tony Kukoć third man award like the like the Chris Bosch award like honestly not against it

What's that that work out there for us? Yeah, best third guy

May if you have six

Six

That's what let's keep going

Just bet I'm the best fifth guy

Like look I was not six was was was

Observed because like all right like I'm great at thought I'm the best I'm the best fifth guy

So if I was a little bit worse. I mean, I know it's different. What is six man?

I don't love the six because I

We did one of the awards we had last night was the 20 minutes a game or less award, which is the true bench guy

Oh, you're basically coming in you're playing 10 minutes or less each half

And you have to have an impact so who that so we said it was Jenkins under trade

Because he plays yeah, not a lot of minutes, but then if you have to start them for 12 games he can actually come in

The Vinny Johnson micro award

Um, we have to take a quick break and then we're going to come back more after I like that

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All right coming back half baked. What else you got this one's very fast

Had to go get tires for my car

They're like the cars heavy any new tires like how much is that and how like we got to order the tires

I like I don't know I see tires all over the place. They're not here like no you got to get different tires

We got to bring them in it was like a

Two day and a half process to get these tires not the biggest problem in the world that being said

Especially with phones you can just sit in those uncomfortable chairs to

Strat it off look so you can do your ass. Yeah

That being said, I then we also went to Daytona for the show and a lot of it is the pitstop in in 10 seconds

A NASCAR will get four new tires and a tank of gas in 10 seconds

I'm not saying you would do this all the time

But it would be a fun option to have a NASCAR mechanic shop just even for the experience

Oh, you need new oh, yeah, I need new tires and a tank of gas and you pull off and you're done in 10 seconds

But you're paying five times this is much better whatever

But you it's a great experience

It's a great experience and you've got the person with the flag and they wave it and there's enough of a runway that you can just

Speed out with four new tires

It's look it's not

You're like well, it's gonna be too popular with 10 seconds at six car. I mean I have to get it

It's six cars a minute

So we're doing 360 cars in an hour you how long can you possibly wait you get you put it on your on the app for the NASCAR pitstop

Oh, honey, where's my time for the car? Oh, I've got to bring it in at nine 10 and 40 seconds is when my

Is you're there and then speed out. Yeah, so you'd have to pay way more for the mechanics

But the flip side would be you're destroying every other tire changer place

You just have all the business and look I'm not I don't think

This idea would land on deaf ears

At the NASCAR executive offices as just a marketing sponsored

Yeah, where you go the NASCAR yeah, oh my gosh, in fact how important are the tire new tires

That's really good maybe and we don't look we're not getting the best of the best because obviously those guys will be at NASCAR

So it might take 14 seconds, but if it's over 18 seconds you get your money back

You know at the name of the places

Pitstop won't the yet that works

So you're gonna pitstop later. Yeah, I'm going at 913 and 32 seconds. Oh, that's great. I'll see. Oh, just miss you

I'm going at 58 seconds up there night 12 almost exactly the same time. All right, let's thanks

Oh

Let's do this one. Okay, well you're gonna want if you want a food one or do you want a sports one? I want both

Let's let's do the food one

Did the Easter egg hunt I have a food one that I can follow up your food one with okay the Easter egg hunt

We did the Easter egg hunt yesterday. Yeah, kids are a little bit older, but it's just still fun

So they ran around they found the eggs in the house and they're like all right they were a little bit mad that

Kids don't like change anymore. Yeah, I was a huge fan. I found a quarter in an egg. I was thrilled found a

Starburst in the egg great

We didn't they don't want change so I threw a silver dollar one of the eggs that wasn't even a big hit

We didn't have any one dollar bills

We had a few starbursts. There was a handful of empty eggs and they were mad about it

So they were like you're one you wouldn't like find an empty eggs. I'm like I would

So then they hit they hid the eggs for me and Libby and then we went around hunted the eggs and we had a blast

hmm

And it was one part like we they wanted to go get the eggs to find the food

And I think it hits on some very primal hunter gatherer

Part of our brain. Yeah, I actually want to go find the food even a big shopping

Uh a big grocery store. Oh, I got to go all the way over there. I like it. I don't need everything delivered to me

So it's a restaurant in a large park

And you get a plate like a buffet plate, but it looks like you're just in a park

And of course, there's natural things you can forage. Okay

We're there's there's lettuce planted and stuff like that

But there'll also be some just real dishes out there if you want, but there's only one or two of them like oh you want the

You want the filet? I like okay, there's there's one out there. Oh, do you want the Caesar salad?

And it's either there's two ways to go survivor

Yeah, so it's so you but in it's either I can't tell if it's better if it's just like golfing and we're just

It's a buffet and you know central par. Oh, look at that. You want to grab that and we're just walking around with our plates

Or it's more hunger holy shit. It's called a hunger games hunger games

He did you walked right into it

Or we're just like we're in three point stances and we're screaming out of the gates

To try to find the shrimp cocktail then you you take it to another level

It's televised and you asked I was celebrity celebrity chefs

Yeah

Oh my god

His slow roasted whatever and where's that I gotta find that you're just running around yeah

And he's all day of chance in camouflage. He's in like one of those hunting blinds

Yeah, it's like a little bit of like paintball

And I think it would be fun. That's really good. I feel like I feel like people

Between ages 15 and 18 would go to that as like the same way they go to escape rooms

Yes, that was how we go into the hunger games tonight. Oh my god. Oh, there's it's pizza night

All kinds of pizzas

Oh, he found a pizza so good

This this food one is from a listener named Brian Angel who

Once uh basically uber eats for your emotional sports state

great example

Boston fan you sign up for the service the pats when the aFC championship game

doorbell rings right after the clock hit zero you open the door city on your porch

A bottle of champagne and some cigars

Or they lose

Like in the Super Bowl. I don't know if you remember when we lost the ball in the game was over in like five minutes

Doorbell rings on your porch is a bottle of tequila ice cream

And the 2018 Patriots championship DVD

Um, and then during the summer like with the shitty redsoxies and like we have now it's a monthly delivery

Almost like when you join a wine club

It's just more beer it's booze and sadness

So anyway, half baked is his thing

Uber is for your emotional state

I think it's a there. It's not bad. I think it's a I think it's a solid idea

You could probably get the algorithms to start

Following people's Facebook feeds too and just let it open up beyond sports

Well, the problem is if well if you're in Buffalo and Cleveland

Places like that that you know there's going to be sadness would be way easier to stock up on the sad items when we get to like a Josh Allen playoff game

So

The caveat the only thing I would add and as long as this is an option

I would like to select

Sometimes in these Patriots losses. Do you want to feel better or worse?

I would click worse a few times. I want to just wallow in it a little bit

Yeah, so oh my if we lose to the bills like I'd like to I feel worse uh-oh

Here comes a plate of uh buffalo wings fresh from the famous buffalo wings place. So you can have a good experience with buffalo

But you it opens it up and it's like ah you stink

In like your table breaks somehow they

Like I like to I'd like to wallow in it a little bit more. All right. What's your next one?

I don't know

Oh, this one's not bad did you know

OBJ had a great catch in the flag football

uh fanatics

Fest with a pros loss to our USA flag team

And the same as the elderly have to retake their drivers tests or at least they

should have to

some of the older veterans

Have to go to the combine

To just show what actual pros look like in the combine. So I'll see not just a not just a pro day like not just a private workout with OBJ

But like hey, oh wow this wide receiver looks good. Well, how does OBJ who is supposedly washed air quotes? How does he look wow look at Fernando Mendoza

He completed 35 at 37 passes like all right, but how does

You know Spencer Ratler throw the ball how does how does who's I was trying to think of a penny pick it does he look like penny pick it

I need some sort of baseline for veterans in the combine, but I don't have a real twist on that. That's just a normal idea

No, it's not that fun just veteran kind of figure out had

Well, I'm trying to figure out a twist that I can't I don't think there's a twist to it

I think it's just a

A practical idea snuck in there, and I don't think it should really be there. So I'll switch it

I'll just move forward to this next one. We went out to a restaurant and

Russell

Says

The waiter comes over a great guy is just

Very evocative and he was and the kids loved him and the Russell's like man the waiter smells great

I was like, oh, I didn't notice who's over there you guys like yeah, I think it's his mouthwash

I'm like it's definitely wasn't his his mouthwash. I think it was just his cologne that you're responding to

But that being said

mouthwash flavored cologne

The other way around cologne flavor. They're sensing stuff

Via my kids think everything is mouthwash

So mouthwash that actually serves the purpose of cologne

Yes, when people are like oh nice cologne you you smell freshly groomed, but it's actually coming out of my mouth

I had a piece of cinnamon gum. My kids might have very sensitive nasal passage. I was eating

To that bad eyesight. No, is that a thing? Yeah, the worst your eyesight is the other sense of sight

Oh, that's why I'm good I've good smell and good hearing because I can't see or know that yeah

The um I was having cinnamon gum and they're like are you wearing cologne like no they don't make they don't like cinnamon cologne

This is cinnamon. I'm having the cinnamon. They got stinks like I

If they're experiencing mouthwash or you have again, I don't think you want to switch around some sort of a leather tasting cologne

Yeah, I don't know how that would it's a really good half-baked because I don't know if you'd want a cologne taste in your mouth

But leaving your mouth you'd want it

That's all I'm saying. I don't want us always smell like mint no one's like wow that guy smells great smells like mint no one likes that

Oh wow he smells like

leathery tobacco

I have two I have two small half-baked family related not not from listeners from me since you're talking family

one

Do you do the thing where you take a picture of like you and your wife for your wife

You mail it to somebody and then they get mad that you didn't clear

Send in the picture out with them in it first

Does your wife do that? It may have happened to me once a decade ago

So I don't have any recent experience with that. I know to always clear it

But that's kind of annoying right

But every time you just be like is this okay?

Can I send this to dad? I do an automatic delete on stuff that's I'll send a picture where I look bad and my wife looks great

as

Well, how about this can we take it out of both of your hands could there be a third party

photo clearance

Where you just send it to somebody and somebody gives you a

immediate

10 seconds later like that one's good you both look great and now it's like well

We're paying the service they told me the photo look good

And they're just constantly green stamping

Everything and now it's out of your hands because sometimes you're like I don't like that photo

And it's like well, I look really good in that photo and you look okay

Yeah, so it's a deal. Yeah

You know, but you're always gonna like down the photo that you don't look perfect then

So now we have a third party. Yeah, it's like an arbitrator basically yeah photo arbitrator. That's one

Then the other one my my daughter went out

For Easter lunchester with my dad who drove

And on the way home my dad started driving down on one way street because he's 78

But second and then realized and had to back up and I was thinking

We all have these stories about our parents as they get older and soon will be those parents

um

Is there some sort of

Some sort of race that could happen

Like what's that what's that race in the streets?

Laman

When they're going through like Paris

Could would you watch old people racing with each other if they were like heavily protected?

Are they in vehicles? Yeah, they're in vehicles

It's everybody's 78 years old and up

Just like a senior tour of senior it's really a senior tour

It's a senior tour with people like and if you can't win you don't get to keep your license

Gee wins. There's so much. There's so real

X

This is the race you have to win to keep your driver's license for two more years

But the cars are heavily protected

Even if there's an accident nobody's gonna get hurt

Flip it of course. It's got a whole cage on it and everything got there's really in there

That's why it's a half baked. I didn't figure out the part if there's bad accident

Well, it happened anyway plenty of there's a few

one-way streets

near me

Where it's not one way but it's like when you get on a highway and there's two it's like a curving highway

And sign screens wrong way

Yeah facing the it's for the other lane and I have a moment of like

I'm like looking around

Connecticut's really bad with that especially at night

Then Boston will just have these one-way streets out of nowhere

No, I'm going down a street all the sudden it's that's it you can't know you gotta put the you gotta put those spikes up

Yeah, those rental cars spikes so you can only go one way all right mouthwash clones. We did casual Friday

That's a stupid idea. I don't even like all right. This one is

That's on stupid too

I

Need I need a title for this one. I'm calling it lifetime learner

So my kids are

In going to go going into high school middle school they feel a certain amount of pressure to do well on their tests

and occasionally

They'll have the classic

youthful breakdown of why do I even need to know this stuff yeah like and

You know every I remember saying that and you come up with some convoluted answer like well

And if you know if you ever want to be a businessman or then sometimes I go the other way and it's abstractly like well

Actually learning is part of is the definition of a journey. Yes, it's just

so

Then they'll talk start telling me about stuff that they're learning

Out of the blue and like this is actually fascinating what you're learning like either

Either parts of American history or parts of global history that I currently

I'm not learning. I'm sort of walked in the sports world and then I'm also

Just following my own interests. Yeah

But maybe I want new interests and I like well you can sign up for any class

But I don't know what classes I want. I'm I'm kind of a fully formed person. I want the pressure

Right, so I want someone to come in with real states like if if Russell doesn't do well in a test

It's it's not probably the healthiest thing in the world

So we try to balance it, but he starts thinking about like you know my grades and college and we try to balance it

But I need those stakes on me. So if we're out to eat and like hey you want to you know

Go to the bar. I'm like fill. I got it go dude. I got a study about the pyramids or my tax rate goes up

My tax is going in and you know, I'm gonna lose a bunch of money

I need real stakes to force me to learn something

I'm not currently interested in but you already have oh yeah, because you have those stakes doing a daily show

But you don't want to seem like an asshole because you

Did it know what's going on with football. No, but I like sports. I want to learn about I would like someone to come in and be like

You know what we got to learn about

Grasshoppers and like oh

Why do we got to learn about this and test on grass?

Better know what these things are you better know about their

mating habits and so like art history

I need so I'll never learn it. Yeah, I will never learn it. I need someone

You're like we'll sign up for a class. I won't go to the class

Right need one of the stakes of the class

So what would the state the reason this is a hat picked idea what would the stakes actually be to get you to care

I financial punishment. I mean, I think physical punishment is too weird

But it's got to be you know the care in the physical punishment

But the hell what's what I'm saying it has to be a financial has to be a financial punishment

You have to you have to lose something that you care about that you currently on

It's like oh my Tom Brady

2000 rookie football card. It hasn't got to be plus in this class. I have to give that card to somebody else

It has to force me to study yeah, and at the end of three months. I'd be like oh, yeah. I know all about our history. I know all about

A road erosion. I don't even know what I want to learn about that's what I don't want to learn

But I think I need to learn I want to learn something like you have to sacrifice something

But then if you get like a b plus a minus or above you actually get something

Like you you're like I know I love cards. No, I think you get a prize to

Yeah, we're a prize-price-driven country right now

Here about prices all the time

Uh

You want to do a couple of listener ones really fast. Yeah go

Nick from Chicago is really encouraged by Nathan for you

So Nathan when he does something

He's all in

rehearsing every single aspect of it and he wants to know what would happen if Steve Bommer

Before the playoffs he took all the people that were going to go to the Quipper's game

And they secretly rehearsed all these different chance and things they were gonna do during the game

Nobody knew it was happening

And then the Spurs come in for game three

And the games about to start and the Clipper fans are all lying doing some sort of crazy

Fan thing and try to mess with the state they've studied the Spurs they have chance for individual guys all things

That would fuck with the Spurs in a gentlemanly way not in a harassing way

Um

Have picked idea. I just like the idea of an owner

Trying to orchestrate that somehow in silence because Nathan failed their learned how to be had a flat commercial jet

In silence it doesn't seem to be that

It

He could do it with that wall thing he has but I don't feel like that could affect the game that much anyway

That was one it's really more

Are we willing to have flares for some reason and this goes back to the or first

Um

Half-baked idea about what's going on in Europe in different rules. Yeah, big on flares

They don't understand that I don't um it's like I'm too in general. Yeah, we're looking stadium

It's like it's it's like a huge sparkler I guess as long as no one gets hurt Jordan that's Jordan G

wants to know um why speech karaoke can't be a thing

I

Yeah, instead of giving a song have you had this one? I've done

I think I did like stand-up comedy cover songs, but this is close

That usually like everybody goes up and they give he's like I'm gonna give the Gettysburg address now in front of there

Yeah, you give the friends you get the mirror the mirror con ice karaoke

I'm not I didn't like that one, but I like that one that he had a better one

Okay, it's in eating it's an eating competition like we have about the fourth of July hotdog contest

But everyone's on a zempick

And they've been taking a zempick for two months

And then

I have to eat hot dogs, but they're not hungry because they're taking a zempick

No, what happens? I've been all they can get to

I thought speech I thought speech karaoke. So you're pretty all right speech karaoke and then I did this one with house

I don't know if you heard, but we we had a listener talking about

anesthesiology and

Anesthesiology bars and whether I don't know if you had a take on that

Well, outside of horribly dangerous

Yeah, but you go totally under

And you could do it for as long as you want so the idea was

All right, I'm gonna get to the airport five hours early from my flight to get through TSA

And then I'll have three hours to kill I'll just go to the anesthesiology bar and get knocked out

Because

Because the fear it's just like it just

I mean, huh and then you could just do this and house was all in it because house said that there's nothing

I made him happier than getting knocked out first colonoscopy that he went into the stream like state

We loved it and he would do it again

Yes, that's that was the other half-baked idea, but I don't think doing it for three hours

Did you watch did you see Hail Mary?

I didn't see it. Oh, it's good. Yeah, but you know the premise like Ryan Gosling wakes up after yeah

He's been out for a while that's it doesn't that happens in these movies that's always comes out great for the person who wakes up

Uh, yeah, they always have like a long beard. That's what was one of the first thing like I gotta get rid of this beard

Yeah, Ryan God to handsome any less

You

Are we done?

I'll just fly I'll just I'll go these are the three quick ones ready rapid fire rapid fire half-baked. Yeah rapid fire one casual Friday in the NBA

Look everybody's got uniforms on casual Friday. Just wear a pair of shorts and a t-shirt

It's like casual Friday watch the games hey you guys were just kind of lightly colored t-shirts

Where we're darker colored t-shirts, but just your own shorts whatever you want

It feels more pick up games. I think they should do that for the tanking games when

When there's seasons over from both teams like just make it a casual Friday. Just wear any t-shirts that you find

Yeah, remember to another karaoke thing was in a trying to listen to Bob Seger

I didn't know the words and I wanted to really sing just like how there's warnings on your car

The words are right there on your screen so you can sing along to a song that you don't know while you're in the car by yourself

Oh

Finally

Wild bird more dangerous than my senior citizen. No, it just comes you can say put it's but it's it's in the windshield

Yeah, it's transparent. Okay, wild bird mix. Can I attract other animals other than just specific types of birds hawks coyotes fox

I wouldn't mind that mountain lion. What do I need to put out there finally

This is a little bit of your sports are

classic the you know the the godfather of

Half baked ideas where you just wanted to be a government official and charge of all sports. Yeah

This is a little bit of and this is a little bit you used to talk about your wife how she would pick up on

You know emotional social cues from teams while you guys were watching the game

About the Lucas injury and Austin Reeves injury where Jay Jay is now saying

Oh, you know what they were I we had talked to the medical experts. They were cleared

You know Austin he was clear too just a regular guy who's barely paying attention is on the staff

You're like now. I don't know man. We're down 30

The VP of common sense that's it get him out. Okay. She's gonna kill us

We're down 30 bro like he I saw him grab his hamstring you heard it earlier

So like he shouldn't play and Austin he said it was his back but like

Not dude we're down 30 let Ronnie get some run

That's it the old season with it's a billion dollar franchise like well

The doctors cleared him too much

There's a guy when I walk when I walk my dog

Walk around and they have a big screen TV

Whatever that person is watching is the number one show in America

That's it watch football basketball like I'm like that the state of the union like that is the number one hit like this

I don't know what the person does they should be hired by they should be a media executive

Just like yeah, I like that that'll work on the

common sense

That's all that's great. How are we feeling about the pets?

The patriots I feel great okay the red socks I feel terrible

You can't even though we're taping this on Monday. I feel great and Celtic's I feel great. So I don't follow hockey

The same thing is been amazing

Tatum it's been amazing. It's been like a gift from the gods. I was so nervous about Tatum

Because I think I want a bit of a Achilles baby

But he's just great. I'm happy for him and Jalen's playing great

So I'm just thrilled

I'm happy for everybody. I really like watching the team

I like the coach. I like all the guys on it. It's been a home run. I give the season a plus

Yes, it's been an a plus season. They're gonna win like 56 57 games

Tatum looks like Tatum again. It's like whatever happened at MSG almost a year ago

It's it's like just this ugly blurry memory that almost feels like it didn't happen now. It's great

Are you in bonus territory? I thought like I was in bonus territory with the patriots

Yeah, cuz they weren't a superball team. It was amazing. They made the Superbowl

Right, so I think all of us were like wow, this is amazing

But you're not there with the Celtics. You're like I think Celtics can win the title

Okay, I'm so I mean, well, I'm in a little bit of bonus territory with the Celtics

Like Jalen tweeted like 50 wins in a gap year or an off year or whatever he tweeted

I think I'm in bonus territory like this would be a championship you steal the thing is I wouldn't have totally believed if it wasn't for those games

In San Antonio, no kc that week where in one of the games

They didn't have Tatum

Yeah, then the other one Jalen got thrown out

But I just I felt like they handled the speed and athleticism of both of those teams in a way that

I don't think a lot of teams can I think really only Denver can maybe Minnesota

um, but um, I just felt they they seemed comfortable in those games that would also be the reason if you're a nix fan

You beat the spurs and you hung with o kc twice when you played them. It's like at least

At least we seem like we belong in games like this

I think that's how you have to think the Celtics belong in games like that

That's right. I believe in the nix. I believe in playoff jalen brunson. I feel like they're

sleeping

I'm not as much of a believer, but no one believes in them

No, I haven't really given anyone a reason though. I just believe I think it's I think it's a little bit of a flip the switch team

Woodstink writes chief state of mind right now

Very good. Yeah, two draft two first round uh picks

Uh shore up the defense Patrick Mahomes posting videos of him running around. He's ahead of schedule

Kelsey back because anyone been behind schedule

After a major surgery in the last six years only Brandon iuk he's the only one

That's it

He's the everyone is ahead of schedule everyone's like feeling great and way ahead and wow we can't move the progress

I think I think the medical community

Did with athletes did something like the airlines or like you know what we're tired of being late

Just say every flight that takes five hours six five and a half hours like good news an early arrival

Yeah, I'm gonna get you there like we're actually 25 minutes late

We never did a master's half-baked by the way, but I guess we just forgot

Do we usually do that? No, it's just the masters are this week

Oh, I mean the only half-baked with that is just the best part of the masters is you have to give away your phone and have human interactions with people

And maybe that's just an event that people should just do

It's like a festival like instead of fanatics fest. It's just like

Give up your phone and talk to human beings

Makes new friends fest

Kevin Wouts. I think my favorite was the was you tapping into the embassies

I think you really cracked something with that. I want to find out more. I'm gonna google it tonight

Great see you can watch cabin on first things first say how do the gang for me

Great see you my buddy. See you. All right

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Nathan Hubbard is here. He hosts fairway role in the Joe House

He also hosts every single album of fantastic pop culture music podcast. We went to the masters

Three of the last four years. We didn't go this year. I didn't care that it didn't go

But now it's Tuesday and I feel sad

92 I wish we do I I missed the eating

I miss the not sleeping. I miss not having my phone for three days. I missed the walking

And I miss some of the storylines then there are some good ones this year. Even though we don't have tiger

Scotty chef are people I there's no conversations left to be had

Rory already won the master so we we have the the biggest one. What's the biggest story left for you?

What's the biggest master's story we have right now?

I think it's what you just said which is that for since

2022 coming into the masters we've had a dominant player

Who kicked ass in the first three months of the year and walked into the masters and won it in

22 it was Scotty then rom walked in in 23 and took finally you know the masters as a spaniard

Scotty again in 24 and last year Rory won the players he won at pebble and came in and broke through

This year we just don't have a dominant player there have been classy winners

We've had more kawa Scotty's got one just in rose is one cam young is one

Statistically we have more elite players

Entering this tournament that at any time since 2004 and so when you couple that

With the fact that a bunch of the best guys are coming in on more rest than ever

All 11 of the last 11 masters winners have not had more than one week of rest and there's guys coming in with two three

Even four weeks of rest Scotty we haven't seen since the players. He's got a new baby

So all of that together. Yeah great job. Well, wait a look at the calendar. Yeah

I think he did look at the calendar because he managed to sneak it in with 10 days despair

But I think the story is that with no tiger and no fill for the first time since 1994

There's a possibility that we get one of those randoms this year we get a Charles Schwarzel or a Danny Willett

Because we just don't have a dominant he's the man gonna come grab the crown this year

This is a really professional answer. There's a lot of podcasts for us for you

I felt like I was hosting sports center

I mean

Whatever something on fairway rolls, but what's the sexy story that's left because I have an idea for one

But I don't I want to see if you had the same idea

I you tell me I mean there's there's

Not just give me one just give me that what you think is like the one that would get the gallery

The most intrigued

It's Bryson De Shamba winning

He's the most popular golfer on the planet. He's finished

two, you know top 10s here

he's

Got second places at the last two PGA's, but he's secretly really struggled

In final rounds even that 2024 US open that he won

That's part of the Rory McRory narrative arc like Rory gave him that yeah

He's won the last two live events walking off that green

On the last live event where he beat John Rom who statistically has been the best player over the last three months

He was in tears something's going on in Bryson's personal life that he doesn't want to talk about publicly

But for all of his sort of head games and most of golf is like 90% between the years

If Bryson has something going on outside that sort of focuses him as the most popular golfer on the course and really

Candidly on the planet Bryson coming in and actually getting this win

He kind of belongs in that players dinner room doesn't he?

He's more popular than Rory like for these next four days

I think I just think Rory's still even though he won Rory's still the most popular Rory going back to back

I think people would root for that over Bryson

Yeah, it's only happened three times and in fact like in the last 20 years like only like three guys have finished in the top 10 while defending

It's just so hard Rory's already on site. I think you know you listen to him

He's still processing last year. It was definitely it goes down as one of the all-time classics right that Tiger in 2019

Tiger 97 Jack in 86. I think are the four biggest masters moments certainly of our generation and so I

It's just a lot of work to defend and host and

Norman blowing it I put Norman in there too even though he lost for sure

Um, I don't have Rory on my list

Okay, so the two I think Rory going back to back and Bryson winning are the two biggest possible outcomes for Sunday

Yeah

Sneaky one is Fleetwood

Who if you're just talking about

Somebody who has been in the WWE for 15 years, but never actually got to hold the belt. He's never really held the belt

What does he have is eight top 10s and majors even last year when he was trying to get off the

Hump of PJ titles. I forget what

What city that was but he finally won Atlanta. Yeah, so like he was gonna choke and then in the last couple holes rallied back and that was fun, but

To me, he's like the most talented

And again, this is casual golf fan bill, but the most talented guy who doesn't seem like he has one of these so that was one

Um, but we know he's gonna choke so it's not not even talk about we

I know he's not gonna come through only five guys have ever won the Masters with one or fewer PGA tour wins

He's coming in with top 10s and four of his last five starts

He's still playing well after he won the tour championship

He's it seemed like it took him to took him to the next level

Prom for Tommy is that his putting numbers right now are not awesome

He's 120th on tour and putting and they're talking this week because I mean the last couple years you and I've been down

That you remember the weather that we've had we've had a lot of rain and I think that's secretly made the course a little bit easier for some guys

This year the weather's perfect. They've had a dry winter in spring

Sounds like the the green jackets are tired of

Nine straight years of double digit below par victories and that they might flex the muscle of the course and make it a little bit faster this year

So for putters who aren't putting well could be a little bit of a struggle this year

so

Ludwig

Yeah second in in

2024 seventh last year

Him winning and putting himself on the map I think would be

Interesting, but he seems like too sexy of a pick

That's the one a lot of people are pointing to he doesn't have the best odds, but he's like in the top eight for odds and

It's just fun to be like it's his time. So I am a some automatic with disqualifying him

I there there's no doubt that he's gonna win one of these, but he's shown us some colors over the last month and even last year

So he's coming in with a t3 a t5 and a t5

He had the players championship in his hands and he choked it on the back nine. There's just no denying it

On Sunday this past week in San Antonio

He had a real opportunity to go win and he had another mediocre Sunday and when you rewind to last year

You sort of forget it. He was briefly tied with Rosen Rory on the back last year. He finished bogey triple boge

And ended up falling down so there is when we talk about a little bit of that scar tissue

He's got quietly a little bit of that scar tissue, but you're exactly right

You know, he's 26 years old of the generation that's just a shade below

30-year-old two-year-old Bryson 31-year-old

You know rom 29-year-old Scotty that that's the guy and it's just a question of when not if

Moracala

Little bits 31 to 1 on Fandole, but a little bit somewhere like kind of needs a moment

Yes, we've been waiting we've been waiting. I don't trust him either. I wouldn't bet that well

You shouldn't right now because he was the consensus guy at the players

And he was he had the best iron play on tour in the first start of the year and you know Augusta is the

You know the second shot golf course on tour right you've got to be able to hit your irons well

He takes a practice swing on his second hole

He's got all of the handle on him at the players takes a practice swing on his second hole and throws out his back

He hasn't played since and we've gotten some intel on the ground that he did a he did a practice round yesterday

with Sheffler and a couple of other guys

But he was mostly just chipping and putting he's withdrawn from the last couple of events

He's not healthy. You should not trust Moracala this week and Patrick Greed 43-1

hometown kid

already has one

It's always fun when he's involved because it's like you get like a little mini-villain coming in and yeah

and

Coming back from live I don't know 43-1 seemed like decent odds. I wouldn't bet it because it's not fun to root for him

No, but I like him as like a first round leader. I mean there's a real redemption arc with Patrick Greed coming back now

He left live ripped off a couple of wins in a second place on the Euro tour

And suddenly like you forget last year he statistically was second in ball striking at the Masters behind worry McElroy

So he's actually sneaky playing very very well and that dovetails into I mean you tell me I

31 for first round leader I

I don't hate it in the same way that Brooks Keppga I bet you get better odds there

Keppga his fellow sort of live de facto

Was second on the PGA tour in approach play up until Houston. Yeah, I mean Brooks's problem has been the putter

But he came back

Specifically to prep for these events. I think when Rory won last year

It really triggered a lot of those live guys to consider what was happening at that point you had sort of the undisputed

Best players in the world were Scotty and Rory right Scotty won two majors last year

And I think for these guys who really all that's left in their 30s is to win majors

They decided that the PGA tour was the place to be and both of those guys quietly have been playing really really great golf

Here's so I'm picking and betting on

Okay

He's 45 years old

Oh my goodness. It's his 21st masters. Mm-hmm. He's a three time runner-up. Yep

He won the 2025 US Open

He won in Tory Pines in February

Yes, you finished 13th at the players

He won the 2013 US Open

He is the most fun

He didn't win the 25 I'm I'm blanking he won the 2013 US Open. I don't know why I wrote down 20 to five um

He's fun. He's the most fun old guy story left

You need the old guy mid 40s 45 I can identify with this. I'm old and you're old. It's like look at this old guy battling these young props

um

35-1 odds for Justin Rose

I mean it jumped out of me baby doll esteemed esteemed agent slash manager James baby doll Dixon also old guy

He targeted as well and I like the 45 46 range as like this is my last stand

If it doesn't happen now once I hit 47 40 49 the the math is just against me, but 45 46

Still doable. So I think I the Tiger I have to do it this year. It's wide open. There's no awesome

There's no awesome golfer right now. Yeah, this is a wide open field. I have some confidence. I'm in the mix with some of these things

Yeah, I think it's a great call out. I mean he is now averaging the most strokes gained approach

uh more strokes gained approach that at any other time in his career more than when he won the US Open in 2013

And we've just watched him make putts so many times and so many clutch situations at the rider cup

He was dominant at Tory Pines this year now. He's missed a fair number of cuts

But I think your point he doesn't give a shit about the weekend week out tournament

All he's trying to do is go win a major and he handled the the loss in the playoff last year with so much class

That it does feel like he's due. It's a little bit like that certain when Sergio won

In 2017 right it just felt like it was his time and maybe he was due

So the thinking is

It's a now or never tournament for him. Yeah, we know he's clutch because we see it in the rider

Absolutely like he he has it in him

It's not I don't have to worry about like a Tommy Fleetwood situation where I'm up three on the 12th hole

And then all of a sudden something's going in the water

No, and I also don't who is he fearing if there's anyone out there. I like 45 that's right where like it went when Nicholas won in the Masters

86 I think he was 46 yeah, and that seemed ancient

But now 45 is like 39 in 1986. I feel like that's like late 30s 40 years ago

Yeah, and and the only comparable potential old guy would be an Adam Scott, but but just have him down to

Adam Scott 70 to one

45 years old and apparently

Second best guy with the irons in 2026 so far need the irons that Augusta

The that's what you need you know, he finished fourth at Riviera and there's a lot of

similarities between guys who win at Riviera and guys who went at the Masters now

Tigray obviously never won at Riviera, but but Scott showing his stuff at Riviera made our eyebrows go up

I like him actually as a potential first round leader just because he's had those moments on this course and

Yes, he it's it's him or on hell Cabrera fresh out of fresh out of the slammer 70 75 Rio don't hell

Or VJ VJ VJ actually showed out in Hawaii at the beginning of the year and played decently well

So I could see VJ as a make the cut bet

This year I like that Adam Scott Justin Rose battling in the finals two old guys as the announcer's just go nuts

One other one that jumped out to me just because of the odds

Harris English is a hundred to one

Yeah, he's been really struggling with both his approach play and his putting this year. Where's he from

We he's from yeah, okay fair Georgia

Yeah, I had success last year

But that because he's been struggling the odds are are crazy hundred to one, but I don't know I like

When the when the people are from Georgia, I always do feel like that's like a little bit of a something

Like if you're ever going to get your shit together it would be in your home state course, you know

Yeah, well with with that in mind you might you might look at Jacob Richmond who won a golf tournament earlier this year

And and is actually been at the top of the FedEx cup standings in the beginning part of the year

He's kind of an unknown, but who has just surged to a ton of success

Basically, he's the best putter on the PGA tour went to Clemson

So he's not far from

Georgia and certainly from a regional perspective

Understands that golf now first time winners, you know, the last 16

We haven't had a first time winner since fuzzy's L.R. So these guys don't tend to win

But you know from a top 10 top 20 standpoint Jacob Richmond is just that guy right now and worth taking a look at 80 to one

Yeah, pretty good. I mean, there's a couple other guys that you got to pay attention to and and you talked about Harris English

My concern for Harris is that he had like a Jordan spieth 2016 at the master's moment

Except his was at Beth Page at the Ryder Cup where he just really really struggled he and more Kawa were appearing that

Fans got down on and then play well and it sort of started the unraveling of of the US team

Not clear to me that that he's recovered from that, but the guy who

Was sort of the dog at Beth Page for the US. It was Cam Young right he got that breakthrough win

He's the last regular season event

He really is and and and he's tied for fifth in most top 10s at majors. He's got six top 10 since 2022

That's only behind Scotty Rory Zander, Bryson and Rom all of whom have won

So you know he's finished t9. He's finished t7 here

He's shown that he can do it and he's funny to you know

The last time we saw him was at the players championship

In the last two years Rory and Scotty both won the players and then went on to win the masters cam Young just won the players

So he's a he's a very interesting pick this week

I'm like a six on the masters this year

Really, I mean, I love the masters every year. I'm just saying there with like no

I got really had my hopes up for Tiger. How's tonight talked about it last week? Yeah, I

All the all the little smoke signals that were coming out that he was gonna play

I really like to the point where we were like should we go should we try to rally last minute

um

That combined with the Rory thing being a year after the Rory thing

I think there's something with golf majors where

When there's like a spectacular generational tournament

It always feels like the next year sucks

Yeah, I don't know why that is

There's a definite letdown possibility here for sure the weather I think is gonna be weird

I know that's the one thing we know after not going

Okay, we've talked ourselves out of it just of course at 15 minutes

Coachella really quick yeah

Still happening apparently

It is um

But my son is apparently going this year

Oh boy

Would you ever go to Coachella you just can't the crowds are too much for you

I told you it it's it checks all the boxes I have for things I wouldn't want to do

It's a long car ride yep you have to like plan way ahead on where you're staying

It's large groups of people and all kinds of possibilities for getting COVID again all these different things

Yes kids a lot of walking I never feel like I'm in the right spot. It just sounds horrible

I don't think I've been a me I'm so old. I haven't been a music festival since like the K rock

Hot dog whenever the one what was that the weenie roast? Yes, that was really fun

I saw one of those like the height of like the comeback about turning into music. I don't know if I can top that

Come on man. You got the strokes out there this year you got

I mean all eyes are on it's pretty exciting

Yeah, all eyes I think are on Justin Bieber because

What's not clear is you know, let's say he's had a lot of struggles, right? He's maybe the tiger

Right he has that's music business, right and the question is you know

Is can he pull off an entire show because he has not been able to tour for a long time because of a bunch of issues and

So he can't he walked out on stage of the Grammys in only his boxers and played what people thought was a pretty compelling

Set until he walked off and left his loop machine going and then walked back on to turn it off

Right

So he had sort of a double leave which made people a little bit unsure, but like Bieber

Bieber secretly put out a really great album and the only question is I think whether he can deliver a full show

If he does that for two weekends in a row his career's back and then subrinent carpenter

You're compromised on the subrinent carpenter question because of business interests, but seems like she is the biggest

star Coachella

Yeah, it's a big one. Yeah, I think she is um

nobody works harder than her and

She's just she's sort of been able to stay above all of the messiness

That a bunch of these pop stars get into and just deliver it's because she just she just she's got a bunch of hits

And she gets up there. She's got she's cornered, you know smart

Q dirty lane and yeah, she just she's kind of more clever than anybody else

House is cornered that for us at the ringer

I guess

Just a dirty part that the other part that you got the dirty that really cute dirty. So dirty he has

So and Taylor Swift is just we're gonna get the

She's having a kid in Aspen anytime and taking two years off. Is that we're just headed that way?

I we're definitely headed for a wedding

The thing that I don't know is she just never stops working man and I think even though

By the sort of streaming numbers and and the statistics this last album was technically her biggest in terms of the way that it pierced culture or didn't pierced culture

I think it probably feels like a little bit of a disappointment and her history is

Not to then go away her history is to keep going and lean into it. So uh, you know, it's now been a couple years since she wrote all these songs

There could be more coming well

The issue for her is once you start skewing a little older and then younger people want their own version of you

And it's really hard to win that group when they just like I like this person

They're close through my age and net you belong to this other generation and I want one for myself

And now you're battling against that which is she's 36. Yeah, you got a whole general is just like you know in golf

There's this whole new generation of Ludwig's coming up who who are staking their own claim and who young people seem to identify with again

Statistically, she's still crushing her fan base is massive

But it does make me wonder you know the love story like wedding between

John Jr. and Carolyn Bissett like we haven't had

One this big for a long time

I wonder if they may just run into a cabin in Georgia speaking of Georgia

Just like they did to get this done to get it away from from where everybody's gonna

The prying eyes on this thing are gonna be ridiculous. I think it's the opposite. I could almost see them like pay for viewing it

I think it's gonna be a big spot. I think they would want to go Diana Charles early 80s level

Yeah, I mean, it's coming out. We have no details. I think it's gonna happen over the summer

So I'm waiting to hear but if I'm them and

I think they do it small and get this thing over with the bigger question of me is can somebody make

Influential awesome music when they're happy with their personal life

Correct. It's a great question. We've been trying to answer it for 70 years and

And you go back to all of the best albums by all the best artists for the most part are people who were in pain

upset at somebody

felt

felt betrayed

um felt hurt

Annerational angst. Yeah, felt unwanted felt misunderstood

And that's what most art comes from and if you're just like

Yeah, this Travis Kelsey guys great. I'm having a great time. Then what are you singing about?

I think that's I think that's the concern. We just got two EPs from you two that

We didn't need we just denied life. I love it. It's true

You know, uh, give me the young bano

You two was done and then they came back in the 2001 and was basically they had already won

They did everything they could possibly do and it was like it's a beautiful day

Like that was there album. They're just happy. It's like hey everybody. Yeah, they started forcing our their albums on to our iPhones

It was a mess, but yeah, I do think you're on to something

Which is way by the way stevey next there was like a part of her genus meant. Oh, yeah

There was a fake album announcement yesterday that got quickly corrected

Uh with people magazine, but supposedly I don't know

We still may get a little Lindsey stevey drama before it's all said and done come on

Yeah, I think there's a little buzz that perhaps there's gonna be some more

Music together. I don't know man. It's supposedly there's a big documentary and coming out about fluid back that obviously

It was devastating to me because that was my all-time dream music that you ever crushed you

Somebody pulled it off and got everybody to talk and uh and I'm really interested to see how it plays out

As one of the old times many times

I know we got to get you on the band of all the bands. We got to get you on every single album talking about rumors

That's my way way

I know it's my white whale. This is it. All right Nathan Habert anything else where we go

No, I just wish you do I mean come to Coachella weekend too. We'll go to the Sahara tent. You can see

See your DMS. It's an area where I ever go to Coachella

uh

It's over for you plus that's during the during the playoffs and stuff

And that was like last week in a basketball and I don't say anything. We're too old

All right, let's leave Coachella to our children

I will watch the live stream Coachella and and we can watch the masters on the cash this weekend

And see if we get a little more drama than it looks like we're gonna have going in all right

Well, thanks for coming on and blowbating about the masters. It was great to see you

Nathan Hubbard we could see on fairway rolling

And uh every single album say had house

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All right our friend Joanne Robinson is here. It's been a while. It's time to talk TV

You can hear her on the prestige TV podcast with Rob Honey and others and you can also hear her on the house of our podcasts

But I caught up on the pit. It's a big thing

You've been put you and Rob bunch of people in my life have been pushing me and I was like, I don't know and then

Last week my wife would just like all right. I'm just gonna start watching

I was

Working on a podcast and kind of like half watching on the couch and then

Now I'm like three fours watching and then by

Nana man and then we ended up watching 28 episodes and four days. How long do you think it took you to hook you all the way in?

Probably around episode three four range. Okay, once you have a feel for it

I don't know what took me so long. I knew it like it because I really liked ER the first five six seasons

Yeah

But the premise of it is just so smart where they're

They're basically looking at ER from a million years ago. Like that was the biggest show we had

Medical shows always work and then it's like you know, it's a big show 24

That show crushed in the 2000s

Well, what if those two shows just merged together and we had no i-le on it

I wonder if this will work and we'll put it on HBO and we'll be able to push the envelope with some of the stuff you see in the ER

And I mean, of course this work. This must have been the easiest pitch of all time

What do you what do you make of the idea that initially?

Rumor has it that initially they wanted to make it an actual like

Dr. John Carter spin-off show like no while he's still playing John Carter just this many years later

So I don't feel like

I just feel like he's no whiley with both characters

I don't even really remember John Carter enough to know what the differences are but it's basically the same guy

They tried to get this guy a little bit of a backstory, but it's I still feel like it's John Carter

Just call him dr. Robbie. Yeah, it's basically the same guy. They're the the story

Reportedly is that the Michael Craternest state was like

Give me that money if you're gonna make it off of ER and they were like, uh never mind

It's dr. Robbie. He has nothing to do with John Carter. It's completely different. Right city. It's a completely different hospital

By the way smart decision they didn't need John Wells or any of those people for this why what do they have to play that well

Yeah, John Wells

Yeah, Mike the Craternest state. Yeah, I mean, I think that um I think this this show is an absolute smash and

Obviously it's winning awards. It's hugely popular, but yeah, it's so addictive and there's something about

There's something so old school of course about just spending all this time with characters that you're interested in and that's what season two is really become

Like you and I were talking a little bit earlier today about the differences between season one and season two and season two is just so much more

Hey, do you like these people or are you at very least interested in these people then you're just gonna

spend time with them not do that big like mass shooting

Previous they didn't season one. Yeah, I gave you my theory that season one felt like the kitchen sink

We have no idea if we're even gonna get a second season. Let's go all in we have 15 episodes

We'll throw everything into this

And we'll make this like the craziest day in ER could ever have on 15 hours

And then season two is like hey

We want the show to go on for six seven eight nine years. We can't do the kitchen sink thing again. Let's let's take our time

Because I thought season one was better

But I understand why they played season two the way they did

I also think season one is better just because it was so unexpected like we just didn't see this show coming at all

Absolutely swept everyone up, but I I mostly agree with you, but I also think it's a

You know, they were insecure in their first season because they're like we're not sure that people are going to

emotionally latch onto these characters that they'll even be able to tell what's going on

There's so many characters that are introducing in season two. They have the luxury of we're already invested in

Frank Langdon how's he gonna come back to the ED or like you know all these other characters

We're already in the middle of their story. So I feel like they don't it's a little bit more self-confident in that

It don't feel like they need a big event in the second season to get us in do you know what I mean?

Yeah, that's a good point and one and also you're discovering a show a season one is always going to be a more fun show

Shining air yeah, I think one of the things I really like about it is sometimes

We don't get resolution

with

Some of the stuff that happened like in the in the first season

You have that that lady comes in who's clearly probably being sex trafficked with the pregnancy right?

Yeah, and we're there with them for maybe three episodes

And then they just kind of leave

I wonder what happened and you just don't know because that's probably what it's like to work within the ER you're constantly

Probably asking like little questions to yourself like what's going on that family? What's going on with these people?

Right and they're not um, you know, they're not trying to make a documentary

They're not trying to be like extremely realistic with the show

But they are trying to show you people who are in the span of the same episode right and wrong, you know like there's no character on the show maybe

Uh, no not even milking this season. There's no character on the show who's always right and always gets it right and is always correct in their opinions and there's no

Most of the cases aren't clean like that either

You know the mistakes are made things are missed you lose patience you win you win with the patience

But it's you never know how it's going to turn out inside of the pen

I think the one thing you can always rely on is that they're going to try to really challenge your

Expectations about something they like to show you a character and

Ask you to assume some things assume you know who they are and then turn the tables on you at some point

And so that might get

Tired around season three or season four

I don't know but for right now that formula is really working

Well, they also have if for for you to extend the tail of the show you can always just get rid of doctors

Which is what they're doing

Yeah, they had a big announcement this week that they're getting rid of a of a main character

And they got rid of one in season one as well

Dr. Collins right Dr. Collins left after season one and they've got another casting out for the season

So yeah, you can rotate the cast in and out. How are you feeling about about there's so much excitement around the night shift crew

How do you feel about the night shift crew as they're sort of clocking into the ED at the end of season two here?

It's a new wrinkle

I mean, I'm a as you know, I own a lot of Sean had a sea stock

Dr. Abbott you love him. I do good tennis player. I've played tennis with him much time

But it was funny knowing him before he got this show

Because

You know everybody out here. It's like I'm trying to grab this job you grab that job

And then you end up on this show, which is like like one of the phenomenon shows of this decade

So I want more him and and just in general like

uh, I'm starting to get a little tired of some of the people that have been on a lot and I want new people

Uh, see our and I were talking about this on the watch last week this idea of maybe in the second season

Instead of showing us a whole day shift

They could show a sort of half a day shift half a night shift, you know like move the night shift in even a little earlier

On to the roster that could be interesting

But yeah, I I'm curious to see who they bring on who's new next season

I really what did you make of the new med students? We got we got joy and ogle be this season like did that did those additions work for you

I mean, okay, I don't think there's been

Like who's your favorite of all the side? I mean everybody it's so funny

I went through all the phases of this show and clearly my favorite character was gonna be Dana like there's no question

And so right and it's like well, that's the artist favorite characters like of course shit. I guess

Um, of course she gets punched having a cigarette which I thought was a tough one tough one for cigarettes break lovers

Because I was like so excited she was having a cigarette break. I was like I couldn't love Dana more and now she's having a cigarette break and then boom some guy's salt

But uh, yeah, I love Dana

um, but then I probably my my

Other favorite one is the one who didn't have an apartment in the first season. Oh, Whitaker. Yeah

And I don't know. I felt like I was like strangely invested in him

Um, yeah, there's a couple. I really don't like but I know I'm also not supposed to like them

Who don't you like that you feel like you're not supposed to like well the one that turned in uh our guy always doing is trying to dip into some pills

We leave the man alone he's the two to shove what's wrong with giving some drugs for people who need it

Is I heard anybody?

Literally, actually people no no no no, I didn't know like her character

I understand why she did but I've thought in season two

They have really ramped it up with her and made her like more nobidali and like they're clearly trying to make her a little more

Villainy and it's working for me because I don't like her doctor Santos. You're out on Santos

Well, how do you feel about bringing Lane Lang did back the way that they did this season?

I'm a huge frankly Lang did fans

So I'm like glad he's back

But raw robin I've been talking a lot of the prestige uh show about the fact that you know they brought him back

Without really seemingly to involve HR and he's you know the the drawback of

We're gonna do an entire shift uh one day in a season. Yeah, he's just like speed running his 12 steps to just be like a men's

Amends amends amends amends in one day. Well, would they say it's like eight months

Yeah between between the two I think eight or ten months. Yeah

So yeah, I had some notes. It felt like they glossed over um

It felt like a multi-part crime that he was committing of

You know uh putting patience and danger of stealing

Dread it doesn't seem like the kind of thing where you'd get your license back

Um, and I also understand why uh dr. Robbie was something

upset about it

but that was

Fair, I think he should probably not be too trusting

But yet it's a this is one of things about the show. I'm like rooting for him to get his ship back together

I like the character. I actually thought he was other than Dana probably the strongest

Most realistic character. I was I'm interested in him. I'm I'm I'm I'm really invested in dr. Lang does redemption arc

It's just funny to watch it try to him try to make it all happen in one day one shift of a on the eD

You know it's a tough one for the July yeah, yeah, yeah, we've seen this before like I thought the first few years at ER

I still think they hold up. They're really good

But like when Anthony Edwards his character got assaulted

And then was dealing with all like basically had PTSD from it wasn't telling anybody who was trying to keep working and like

Holy shit like

And he's in charge of these uh

You know trying to do the right thing with patience and all this stuff and this we're watching this guy in rabble

Like that whole concept is really fun for these

Hospital dramas. Yeah, and uh, I don't know if you were still watching the show that happened

But Carter uh no wiley's character had a had a drug addiction issue on ER. So like I think I was at at that point

Yeah, there's there's no uh when cluny was out you were out you're like I'm done cluny's gone. I'm gone

I I did a good like six seven years. I thought when was the one when uh he got him and Kelly Martin both got attacked

Yeah, it was like a nine inch nail song. I thought that was on the best like five minutes. I've ever seen a television

Some of the most traumatizing things I've ever seen

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was like I want to say it was season five

Yeah, I was I lasted through cluny. Yeah, um through through Kelly Kelly Martin

And then once they once they bump her off you're done. I started watching because sharely share

I told you the share strength field who I loved and in my pity blue

Um was on also on ER and then that was like

I'm gonna follow her there and that was it. I don't have the answer to this, but I wonder how much you know

Maybe they've talked about it, but I wonder how much pitching this to kacy boys at HBO

I wonder how much they're looking for shows that will also help banks some uh boost some of their library shows because if you watch this on on

You know, right to you. Yeah, it goes right to you. And I've we've heard from so many people who are watching ER for the first time

Just because they love the pit so much and they want to spend more time with Noah Wiley in the hospital

And it's suggested to them on the app and so they're like okay, let's go ahead

Well, it's funny. If you notice he's on the screen grab for the show at least on my TV. Yeah

It's like a young Noah who doesn't have 30 years of ER disasters. We're gonna space

Exactly. No, the first five years of that show are unassailable. I was some of the best TV

They had the best directors. They did a Tarantino episode. It was really great. You and McGregor was on

Yeah, um, and also like a really overqualified cast, which I think if you're gonna ding this show

ER had people

Especially the first couple years where it was just it was immediately clear. Clooney was a major star

Edward like it was like this guy's making movies like you could just see it. You knew Juliana Margulies

she was

Ketted to other things

Cherry string failed maybe was like this is where it's gonna end. Yeah, but Noah Wiley was like what's gonna happen with this guy?

I don't know. You could tell me anything

All right, and he you know he was on there for so long Eric was all of course is also like

Eric was all is another one. He was great and then Gloria Rubin was on that show. She was great like

I just feel like they like

Leigh

Linda cartollini right or tyranny, you know like yeah some of the late late people were amazing too

But yeah, you're right that like

That the pay other than Noah Wiley and and our guys Sean had to see you know

This is a lot of people that we have not seen at all. They're either brand new to the industry or we're working in theater

But I think that's that was a

A budgetary gamble they made right to have this massive cast that they could pay very little money to

And the whole and and budgetarily to set it all inside this one set saves them so much money

They barely ever leave this one set that they've built. So it's a it's an inexpensive show

It's a huge phenomenal. It's probably gonna win the Emmy again this year

So it's just like one of the biggest return on investments, you know

You compare that to like a thrown show

Which is costing them millions and millions upon millions of dollars

With and is less of a cultural phenomenon than the pit is at least right now

But you know what's funny about a yard like most of those people were nobody's

I don't know any of those people were

And then where it's in Sharia Strenkfield those are really two people I knew I knew Eric LaSalle from coming over

Yeah

Right your soul glow yeah, he was at least a little famous

Yeah, the bigger picture to me is like

First of all are just hospitals police and fire these are just the undefeated things that we have for the rest of the eternity

Yeah

Every 10 years like just all right fuck it. Let's do it again

I was watching general hospital when I was a kid when Luke and Laura were on there

And even like hospitals that wasn't even there was a hospital show before general hospital that was huge

Um, I remember when he or in Chicago hope we're going at each other at the same time

There's this big

Big thing then graze anatomy 10 years later feels like every 10 years. There's another one of these

Yeah, I think I think what's interesting about this show is that they're

They're really trying to beat the graze anatomy allegations

So they've you know, they've insisted like we're not going to do relationships inside the show

We're not going to have people hooking up in exam rooms. That's not the show we're going to do like so that you know

Shonda Shonda rhymes took the the medical template and then made a you know, just a soap opera about it

Yeah, yeah, she shondered it and so they're like we're not going to do that

I like the 24 comp we're going to this is our premise on that

Framework of a medical show that never you know, never disappoints like always comes through

Yeah, I'll be interesting if they spin it off and they do

About a group of podcasters

Right

Right before the white lotus season finale

The 10 hours leading up to it with crazy shit happening in the office

They keep trying to make podcasting work on TV, but you can't make it work because they just keep pretending it's radio

And it's just not the same thing at all

Further not only is it not worked. It's been really truly terrible every time

Embarrassing there's honestly one outcome

Where it's been awesome um, so no wiley yeah

Who was

I want to say his career was over but it kind of had hit the end of the line right and I think even he talked about that in some of the interviews like

Yeah, it's probably gonna have to start selling

My house and like it my moment it kind of come and gone

I just felt like no wiley was so good in the show. I kind of didn't really totally see it coming

In the way he's in I think the stuff

Especially in season one the stuff he's doing week to week

I was just really impressed. I don't know he won all the awards. I'm not breaking new ground saying this

But it's weird somebody in their fifties to be like I didn't know you were this good of an actor

I think I think he's incredible on the show like I have been talking for less, you know a couple weeks or whatever about

Should he take a slight backseat in season three just because he's doing so much. He's writing. He's directing

He's EP. He's the face of the show on every single interview

That's mainly because I'm concerned about Noah Wiley's like mental health. Yeah in terms of robby being the center of the show like he is

Incredible like he's so watchable. He's you you find yourself watching his face to see how he's reacting to something

You might not always agree with how he's reacting but you're always interested in what does robby think about this

And there is no show without Noah Wiley

Here that might not always be true

But right now there is no show without Noah Wiley. I'm sure they want it to run forever and perhaps eventually he'll clune out of there

But like it's uh it's his show and it's so like you love to see it

He I think he said employed since the end of the year, you know he was making like the librarians movies for TNT

It's of like that like he was working

But it wasn't anything like this and to see him sort of

All the way back front and center in the limelight in the biggest thing going on TV right now

He's getting his like walk of fame star

You know in a couple weeks, I think and it's just like I don't know you love a comeback story

No, I mean his his career was at the point where he would have been like

John hamps buddy and your friends and neighbors who was actually stealing money from his boss

But he would have been like the third or fourth lead

Right if you've in that because he wasn't even getting that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah

He's carrying the show and I'm sure like there's so few awesome parts

I'm sure there's other actors in his a dream. So we're like fuck

It would have great part, you know

And like what you said about how you really he really he's the moral compass of the show

But he uses silence really well

You know, it's like in the first season when that that couple they don't want to take their son off the ventilator

He's trying to get them that way and they're like here's what we want to do and

does that like

No, Wiley pause right

And just like makes a couple faces and it's like okay, I get it. All right. Oh, I'll come back

But it's just like you can read his face with what he's thinking

It's which is a really hard thing for an actor I think I've been really impressed

How do you feel about the season two?

Robbies on the edge Robbie, you know, might be contemplating suicide my Robbie might not be coming back from his trip

How do you feel about that storyline?

Well, I thought it was interesting. He wrote a motorcycle without a helmet

Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're

Mr. Safety and you're just flying around Pittsburgh

Uh, now I know they're trying to drum up the stuff. I one of the things that's so cool about his character in the show is that

I mean, I don't really know anything about his background with who who he was with

What's his what's this type?

You know like what is he gonna meet somebody is it like there's no date scene

We don't see dr. Robbie at a bar like having a drink with somebody who met online like that the show just plants on all of that

They're all about like the hospital and the work and the relationships and the work and all that other stuff

You know the closest outcome is when he's on the roof or you know the very last

Scene of the last episode the first season, but it's just not interested in that stuff and I kind of like it

Yeah, I think they're trying to get that a little bit with like bringing in this

Guide do could we work with on the motorcycle and you know they'll bring in people's family like

Mel sister Becca comes that you know like the family members come in uh dr. McK's dad play by the great her own dad red durif comes in yeah

Season one, you know her ex-husband's there like you know

They have family kind of coming and going a little bit on the edges, but yeah, it's like mainly about the work

Which is sort of the whole point of the show which is about these people have terrible work life balances and like

Their wives are their jobs so they don't have time to have other relationships at all

Right, then you use that as the crutch for why you don't have relic as my job, but but your job was also like all encompassing

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love about the show tell me

Just the random guest actors that pop up we're like hey that guy. It's like the death of last days in disco

There is what's he doing what I call what I call yeah, there's a million of those in the show

Do you want them to keep it like small like hey, it's that guy because eventually ER was like

Sally field gonna be like

Yeah, it was one of the reasons I stopped a lot and I thought I hurt friends too with the cameos. I don't ever understood that

Yeah, it's like an snl when they just they try to write sketches

So some celebrity can walk out in the crowd can go nuts. I like when

Like they had this is like the all-time deep cup, but in season one they had

The guy who was in one of my favorite sports movies is a kid fast break who was in

Vision quest who was in officer in a gentleman as the guy who was room with Richard Kurt tall black guy name

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was the old guy in season one. I was like Harold semester is back

But they had a bunch of those I would much rather see that than

Then celebrity cameos that's really fun like is every week we hear from listener

We hear from listeners of the prestige feed who are really excited about a certainly you know

They had an actor who is on lawn order like all the different lawn order franchises. Yeah, the lawn order people are chiming in or

Luforigno son Luforigno junior was on playing the sort of orthopedic guy who comes in and like holds up the severed the severed leg

And our listeners sort of lost their mind. They're like that's Luforigno junior. He's on 9-1-1

We love him and I was like oh the whole sun is here. That's cool, you know

But yeah, Mary McCormick showing up. I feel like they're being in the show. Mary McCormick was a good one

Yeah, they're bringing these people for like one or two episodes

Elevin from the Cosby show was on this last week, you know

Like I think that's really fun. I agree with you

Yeah, I think we need to go a little more in 90s

Early 2000s maybe get some sort of random party of five person

Just really keep me on my toes. I'm mad that I was watching all the time because I would have loved listening to you and Rob

Try to break the stuff down over just watching 20 hours of this over four days

Well, did you watch you and your wife watch this together?

Did you break off and sort of no we did no couple we did no streamer cheating

Okay, you see

Because I was able because because the setup I have for my job

I was able to keep the basketball on as we had you know, so I was able to

To bang out here's the thing I don't know about you

Um one thing that people really love about the pit is that they get really emotional about it

I don't feel like you're a big TV cryer. Do you get emotional about pit storylines like

The story about that kid with the who had who was like brain dead in season one any and they did that honor walk for him

You're not a TV cryer, but my wife is yeah, and one of my favorite things is

When it starts to get emotional

And I won't look but I'll sneak over and then I'll look and she's like

Yeah

So and that happened at least three times in the two seasons like they really kind of go for it

Couple times, but then you know, you watch these shows and you can't help but think about yourself in these situations or family members who have

I don't think it was probably healthy to watch to binge watch the show

Um the other thing is

Like the it showed like the start of a childbirth like it there's a couple times like oh

What what about heads up or the guy with the maggots and the cast like they do a good job of

Jolten you and the

I couldn't handle it. Yeah, it's the degloving for me anytime

There's like a degloving where the skin has come off someone. I just can't I can't handle it

I can't so how far how far are they gonna go with this show? We have we have two episodes left season two

Mm-hmm

There's a lot of cards left to play with some of the doctors and the junior doctors and

The nurses stuff like that, but there's some things they haven't done yet

Well, I mean, we don't have like creepy

Possibly sexually harassed a patient guy that's coming

Right there's there's things they haven't done yet, but all other medical shows have done

But they haven't done it the way that the pit does it so like you know every time you see a storyline

We've been hearing from people who are like oh, they did it on this medical show. They did it on that medical show

But that's okay if you recycle things that we obviously there's only so many medical things that can happen

So just a whole genre where people just watch every one of these shows and know every single thing that's happened

Well, yeah, because it's their company people love procedurals. It's a comfort watch for them, right?

They love their fire shows their their police shows and their medical shows and um

And so you know what to expect every week and you come in for the comfort the pit

Ultras that a little bit because they don't wrap up every case at the end of the hour

So you're not hanging you know like these cases extend

The drama between the people extend a week to week so it's a slightly different version of that

Comfort procedural watch, but I think this show could run for 10 years. Honestly. I think it could

If they figured out a deal. I would love that. I mean this was

So the question one of the questions for me is if it had just been on Sunday nights on HBO

At nine o'clock like they have with some of their signature shows who would have worked in the same way or was it actually like

This was the perfect

Hybrid max feels HBO, but it's really a matte and it's just kind of perfect for where we are in 2026. Well my understanding is it was part of their

previous effort which I think they've slightly abandoned to try to distinguish between what's on max and what's on HBO and this was like

This is a throwback network kind of show that we're gonna do on max, but I don't think they're really that invested in that anymore and I

um, I think it could have worked just as well on Sunday night HBO for sure

It's at HP as an interesting spot because they have they're running the euphoria trailers

And they have this show that now has three of the single biggest stars that we have are all in the show

I don't ever in a mill at the only time I can really remember anything like this happened and before was friends

when

Jennifer Aniston Courtney Cox

And Perry we're all like headlining movies all at the same time

But I don't even know if they are as famous as the three people on the show

This is I feel like we've broken new ground with this because well that was a different era of television of course, right like TV

Yeah, they you know

Yeah, but like

um

Also the difference with euphoria is yeah, you know, they've been making this show since 2019 so like so infrequently

Yeah, I've been rewatching you for a season one to prepare for season three and you know

They're just like such babies, you know city sweetie and dig up a lority or just like

Absolutely tiny babies on that first season. So their entire career exploding

It is insane to me that they got this cast back together for this season. I don't understand it

I don't know I don't know how they pulled it off. I don't think we want to know how much money was involved

But like I

What what I do know is that I've heard from a ton of people including our guy Andy Greenwald

Who have been out on previous seasons of euphoria who are like I'm in for season three because it's undeniable

You're not going to watch the show with Sydney sweetens and Dan Jacob Lourdes and dayo who's in the biggest movies that are coming out this year

Like of course you're gonna watch it. I mean you know she's the single biggest under 40 female movie star

I think she is like and you could argue Sydney sweeties at the top four

I mean she's up there man and Jacob Lourdes Oscar nominated, you know, it's just sort of like it's it's wild

That all of them are together and it's show like that. Yeah, Zendaya this year this year for Zendaya is absolutely insane right do the free a spider man movie

This rober patents in movie that's you know doing more numbers than I think people thought it was going to

And you know, she's just like the I think she is she's the biggest star

She probably has the highest approval rating of any male or female star and I think people really like a lordy

I don't think there's a lot of people like fuck that guy

Where Sydney sweetens the most polarizing male or female actor actress we probably have

I will say I had a tough time with the lordy just because his character on euphoria is so

Yeah, but it's been long enough since season two that I was like that he's done enough other stuff

But I was yeah when I'm rewatching him like oh, yeah, Nate uh Nate on euphoria is a tough watch

So I'll be curious how the allorty fans who haven't watched euphoria how they feel about how many how many tell me lies season said we had since you

Right five I don't know

I've took a lot of the euphoria playbook and

You know I know it's hard to outdo euphoria. I don't think you can outdo I don't have a great feeling about the season

I've heard I've heard from a couple people that it's really good

Um, I watched they sent over like three episodes. Oh you watched I did watch them. Yeah, so were you happy or not happy?

I thought they were really good, but again, there's just this like

You're watching these incredible actors, you know, it like but with but with as always the case euphoria

You kind of feel grimy watching it like you don't feel great after watching an episode of euphoria

You feel grimy. I feel

Sam levenson is like one of the most divisive people making television right now

But zende is incredible in it and

That's just the best thing to watch the whole cast is really good

Are you watching imperfect women on apple you stayed with that one right no

Should I be what do you think listen if you put

If you put actors that I've seen on an on an apple box with some sort of somebody died

I'm probably gonna watch I just them how often are you looking at your iPad? What's the iPad percentage ratio for that show? Oh my god

I would say

70%

On the iPad doing stuff and then 30% looking up, but I think I know what's happening for the most part my wife likes it

It's catching three actresses at

Strange points of their career where all of them were probably bigger stars seven years ago

And they all kind of just combine together for this pretty generic

Cry I mean all these shows seem the same like everybody's worried about what AI is gonna do for TV shows

That's like I feel like it's already here. Yeah, it's like hey, there's a murder

Whoa, let's go backwards. Oh, I wonder if this person did it. That's the thing you can say about euphoria is like

Yeah, you've never seen a show like this. Hey, I did not write this. Yeah, no absolutely. You know what I enjoyed though was the

The comeback episode of your friends and neighbors

I'm actually excited to have that one back. Was it marrs? Was was that what did you know Jimmy Mars came back? Yeah, yeah

I know where he's playing a billionaire. Uh-huh. He's playing a brash confident billionaire

And I did it for you and so no looking at the iPad for the your friends and neighbors season two

No, I'm like I'm like 70% watching that one. Yeah

All right, I love that show that one solid

Trying to think if they're what were the other ones you've been covering?

I'm prestige because some of those some of them I'm not watching wait love story

You were kind of out on at the end, right? Oh, I love love story

I thought the ending didn't work for no I just thought the last three episodes could have yeah

I thought I thought the show peaked with the first four or five

Um, I absolutely I don't think I've talked about it on the podcast

I

I loved how they recreated a lot of the early 90s stuff and you and Rob talked a lot about like they really did take you back

With the clothes the look the music they did they did everything really well

Was like as high end of a version of a crappy show as you're gonna get because it was pretty crappy

Yeah, like that the second last episode is them just arguing a kitchen for 50 minutes and argument nobody overheard

Um

But are you meant that someone made up and decided it was them. I mean, I thought Sarah pigeon who's the lead actress on that show was like absolutely phenomenal

I thought she was so good the other guy was fine. Yeah, he was also there. So very handsome. He was okay

He looked like them, which was really all that you matter

He looked like I don't think the show ever really fully decided on how they felt about JFK junior was

Kind of the flaw of the show. It's like so

It's this guy just a moron like what what did walk us through what you want us to think about this guy

Because you're kind of making it seem like he's an iridim moron, but you don't really want to say it

Well, I feel like in the final episode they tried to make this like they tried to really pat themselves on the back

By saying you know having constant Zimmer who played yeah

Her mom basically say all the coverage is about you know, yeah, it's talking to her his sister your brother

Um, but nobody knew who my daughter was and so the show's like well

We cared more about Carolyn than we cared about JFK aren't we great, but I just feel like they didn't really

It would have been a much better show if they had a take on him, which they didn't feel like they had

But I think they really created in her and interesting character

That's what was so weird about it though

It's like they spent I thought they really built out a excellent character with her yeah

He was also interesting in his own way because he wasn't really good at anything and it was just clear

We were like

I think it was a little older than me um, yeah, it was clear. He was just gonna go into politics

And it was like all right do that you try to pass the bar we get it you trying to throw it away

Oh, here's your stupid George magazine, which was a terrible magazine by the way

Um, and it was just clear is like he's just gonna run for senator and it's gonna be fine

Like he just doesn't want to admit to himself yet that this is how it's gonna play out

And then you you peel under the other part of this was like this is the kind of person who ends up becoming like a major

Person in politics

Like somebody who's clearly like they just want to like ride their bike and

Hook up with people play flag football

Um, everybody loved him he would he he was beloved

It was like to me when Diana died and and he died

It was about the same reaction at least with everybody I knew

What did you make of them taking us inside of the of the crash like how they handled the whole crash sequence in the finale?

I actually thought it was pretty fair

Um, I thought it could have been more critical on how stupid it was that he flew

They really one of the dumbest I just can't believe he did it. Yeah

Yeah, and to do that at night and yeah, it didn't really seem like he had the experience

I

Just never really understood that one, but I think that missed opportunity. I would have

Instead of that last second-large episode where they're just fighting

I was so interested in the Kennedy compound. I don't think we could have spent enough time there

I thought that was great. Yeah, yeah

I loved being around the dinner table when it was which she created the podcast basically going around

Tell asking different people what they thought

Just what the compound was like

What they did I was like I could have done another hour of it. Why didn't Ethel Kennedy have a podcast

That's a question. Well, I'm sure she was really good at setting people up

What did you think they the cast don't allow as Ted Kennedy and then just like never used him to do anything

It was really strange. So

my wife

Who love story was

Her favorite piece of content that's come out. I think in the 2020s

ends up watching there's a show on tubi

That's the lost wedding tapes of JFK junior and carolin. I don't know if you know about this

No, yeah, and it's somebody one of his buddies

Video tape the wedding and it's this whole documentary. So of course

My wife immediately goes from that to this and is watching it and

Ted Kennedy was like a big part of the wedding and just

Gives this really emotional speech at one point and it's actually it's worth if you like love story

It's worth watching this documentary

But I didn't feel that impact at all

I always felt like he was like the man in the family and you didn't feel that from the show. I don't know why

Well, that's what saying they cast an actor I like and know in that role

And so I'm just wondering if they cut him because it wasn't good. Maybe his accent was bad

I mean he was doing a hard Kennedy accent swing. So maybe let's be honest

Fucking Jason Clark. He's right there. He already did this in Chappacuina

He's available for all of these shows. It's probably wrapped up birdaw like like

Murdoch just go

Jason Clark does the rest of his career is just Teddy Kennedy. He was an unbelievable Ted Kennedy. Yeah, I really like that movie

But yeah, I thought I don't know why they punted on Ted. Maybe JFK wasn't that close to him. I don't know

Also, do we feel like carolin

The show makes it seem like she's like I don't want to like the sky, but there's something about him and then

There's other takes and they were definitely takes them the 90s that she

But she like she knew what she was doing the whole time to get him. She's after getting. Yeah. She she landed it

I don't know. I mean, yeah, that's definitely that's definitely the narrative that was prevalent at the time

And then I think the show is sort of like what if it was what if the story was a little different than that

So the show tried to zag against that

And it was based on a book that was written

I think for for her side of the story and it felt like that's what we were getting but I thought

It didn't explore JFK like was this guy just kind of a dope

And then it didn't explore her like how how can I being was she with landed this guy? I think the problem is like if she if she

Went and like hooked up with him and sort of against her will like she's like oh, I don't want to be part of this world

But there's something about him then there needed to be something about him

That was more than just this guy is extremely handsome because she was dating an extremely handsome underwear model

So it's not like she couldn't get extremely handsome somewhere

And so what is it about him that was so undeniably alluring that Darrell Hannah and everyone else are throwing themselves at him

Is it just the Kennedy

He reminds us of his dad sort of aura and if k if that's true then

Then Carolyn is

Yeah, more more schemy than they decided to make her out inside of that show

So they can't have both ways I think I have an answer. What's that? I think he was just tremendously handsome

Yeah, he sure was I knew somebody that was that brown with him

Yeah, I know somebody who was that brown with him and it was and so obviously love story everybody who intersected with them

That I know they're dining on this for nine because everybody's got so many questions. Uh-huh

And he was just like look

The dude was

Incredibly handsome

And every woman loved him immediately and that's just how it went and that was what his life was like

They loved him women love this guy

And that was it

So

You know for so you don't have to have much else going for you if that's how you go for life

I don't even know if that's the answer. It was just that was the appeal was everybody was like

He they just said he just was one of those guys. He'd like stop the room when he walked in

Um, and that was it

Where are you on beef season two is coming out soon. How do you feel about that new cast though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah carry Mulligan

I'm in Oscar eyes. I'm in Kaley Spanney Charles Milton. Yeah, I'm good about this TV air so far

It sounds like because we're barely in April. I mean love story was a gift that that was

Too much a content for us

Love story the pit

A night at the seven kingdoms. I thought was a really successful thrones endeavor early this year

You know HBO's really kick and ask this year. Are you a DTF?

Watcher you watch it. It's done right yeah, I made the mistake. I've watched it early and I binged it

Oh, okay, so you know, I'm keeping up with it and I don't think that was the way to watch it because it was a little

You weren't you were loving to bang out in like two nights. I thought I liked it though

I didn't love it, but I liked it. Did you like it?

It's not for me. What was your what was your favorite show this year? Was it love story or what is it?

What are my other options? I mean the pit I guess

Or whatever you're watching on Apple. I thought uh

I thought love story

Tapped into something that I wish happened more

Which is that I don't I think it was very well done not that ambitious

And was built to kind of cultivate conversation week to week

And I don't think it's a show that would have succeeded on Netflix

If it was you just dump every episode at once. I don't I thought part of the appeal of it

And I don't know like to me like the bigger question which we've talked about a bunch of times

Is why don't people follow this model more of how to do stuff like is it better to just

Because I know and I've talked to people at the different streamers

They're like well if it's a binge people stay with it if it's week to week

Some of the audience will fall off. Maybe they don't stick with it past four or five weeks. I get it

I just think resonating culturally for that long should is the ultimate goal of any show like love story was huge for effects

Because it felt like people were talking about it for seven straight weeks

What also has a longer term payoff so something like the pit

I think if the pit were a binge people would watch it

But I don't think it would have grown the way that it did you know and great

And so like the long-term investment when you come into season two the audience is so much bigger

And it can only you know sort of grow from there

So I think it's a riskier move because if the show's really shitty up people are gonna drop off

But in terms of like really getting people to

Emotionally buy in to get your wife crying on the couch like you want to be there

I mean, I know you guys binge the pit

But like you want to be there a week in week out. I really feel like you know these people and you're spending time with them and every week

You're checking back in with Langdon and Santos and all the rest and how are they doing? Um, so well

Thanks like the ash and kutcher show that came out that bombed

That was it like that's that's the case for sticking to the binge model because you have a show like that and it bombs and

Releasing every week and it's like do a in the week too

You know, yeah

And then also, you know for podcasting is better if it's week to week

So think of the podcasters to really just show week to week that's that you joke, but that's a real thing

Because in the old days it was think pieces, but now it's the podcast cross with the think pieces like there's still I saw my apple news the other day

somebody wrote a carol and beset

Piece that that shows been gone for 12 days somebody like the Atlantic or something who's like here's my

Carol and beset think piece and it's like this thing still

A lot like that. Yeah, that's the matter see the bigger thing to me is

Um, how many of these are left

We've done ominous. No, just like real life stories are going backwards with the celebrity story that could do

I feel like we're kind of out at this point. Oh, Jay was another great one and we did it

Um, but in general, I just don't feel like there's any good ones left

I don't know I feel like they've done five Diana movies

I mean how many times have we gone backwards with princess Diana we're good. We need to be done with that

Yeah, we need to be done. Oh, we need a break from

I would honestly a Megan and Harry movie I would be in on

It's too well they did that on lifetime and I think it's too early to do a Megan and Harry like we need some distance from this stuff

You know, there is a too early like if you just can take liberties and go nuts like

Like we don't know we don't know what happened in the jet like

To have an entire episode of them arguing the kitchen and having no idea if it didn't happen that tells me like you can

You could do whatever you want. Yeah, and not and and not get sued by Megan and Harry

Oh true they are alive. Yeah, we would sue the love story people. I guess the family. Yeah. Yeah

All right, Joanna

Um, here's what I'm looking from from uh for from you in the future. I want you to nail a

TV show about podcasting. I think only you can do it Bill Simmons. So give us you know, honestly, it's like it's like hacking

It's like how there's never been a good show about computer hackers or move like anyway even like sneakers

Which we did on the rewatchables. There's very little hacking and the hacking show

What about hackers

hackers well, it's just tough though

Because you can't keep the podcast topical

true

Okay, uh and alternatively I'll work on that though. I'll turnively a Harry and Megan movie and our TV show

I don't know, I don't want to watch it. Yeah, I think I think that's one of the few ones left

I mean the bill the bill Clinton one was was a big mess. I just that just didn't work. Yeah, get it and

um, but there's more I like to the Versace one though. I thought that was actually pretty great

Well, that was like what how many years ago like five six years ago. That was excellent

I think longer than I would know it was between OJ and the Clinton one and I think

I think Versace is a really good example of one that like not it wouldn't occur to any of us to do the Versace case

I think so when you're sitting here thinking about like you're thinking about the big ones

But I think the best model to go for is like go for some of the smaller stories that we know less about

You know like I think when you give us

OJ was incredible and we all knew so much about OJ and it still taught us things we didn't know

But Versace I think was even like I think about Versace more because I knew nothing about that story

So like find us a smaller story that you can sort of uh

teaches everything about and that's something I would tune for it's really good advice

What's the big nerd culture movie coming this year

Doon part three are you are you excited for doom part three

Teppet day

Very well done those two movies

They sold out this 70 millimeter iMacs as greeting sold out within a couple hours they put them on today. So

People are people are excited despite the fact that we've figured out

This movie theater thing. Yeah, yeah, they tried to do it 12 13 years ago with three day

Yeah, three events and people just don't like wearing three D glasses

And now they have figured out these iMacs things are now events

Yeah, and they've nailed it. Congratulations. They're bidding all right Joanna Robinson great see you as always thanks for coming on

Thanks Bill

All right, that's it for the podcast thanks to Kevin Wilde's Nathan and Joanna and gahal and Eduardo as always

Don't forget new rewatchables was up

Monday night Eddie and the cruisers

Um, I think we're running based against it next week. So that if you want to prepare for next weeks rewatchables

That's going to be the one i ain't going to be back on this feed

Late Thursday afternoon and hopefully i have more clarity on on the MVP

I'm going to really spend a lot of time think about this and joy the middle of the week

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