165. Franklin Aurelius 12.7mm, Thrive Ignite, & New Paddle Database Tool

Alright, what's up guys, we are back with another podcast episode and this week, you know,

there's not a ton in the news, but I do have some things that I think would be fun to

go over.

We're going to be talking about my new website, which if for those of you who have followed

me for a while, you know my website sucked.

You no longer suck.

So we're going to get to that.

We're going to talk about some of the controversial lines in Asia, Oggi signs with 11,624.

We're going to go over some paddle terminology.

Now granted, most of you listening are probably paddling earns and you probably know most of

this.

But there's a lot of terminology that I think people don't actually know or understand

and I thought it would be good to do a recap for all that.

And then we're going to talk about a handful of paddles, the Franklin Arilius, the Thrive

Ignite, and then we have a fun little game in the kitchen.

So there should be fun.

Alright, do it.

What do you got for a question of the week this week?

Question of the week is, how much does the ball matter to you?

What ball do you use?

What ball do you play with?

And how much it matters?

Okay.

We'll revisit that in the kitchen.

Okay, first thing we need to go over here is important.

Okay guys, so we get this comment probably at least once every week on YouTube and I have

to respond with the same thing every week on YouTube.

So I'm just going to say it in a podcast now.

We always get a comment that says, bro, where are the timestamps?

Like come on bro, you got it.

These pods are too long.

You got to put timestamp.

I'm just going to let you guys know right now.

There are always timestamps in the description.

If you don't see the chapters on YouTube itself, just click expand on the description.

The chapters are literally always 100% there.

It is on a checklist for me to click off before I publish the podcast on YouTube.

They're always there.

Now what happens sometimes is YouTube will act very finicky sometimes and it takes a while

for it to like accept the timestamps.

Sometimes it's instant.

Sometimes it's a while.

You're a very early listener.

Yeah.

Immediately after it gets posted, it's not our fault.

They are there.

It's just YouTube glitching out.

This happens with other podcasts.

It's not just for us.

One of my jobs when I edit the podcast is writing down the timestamps.

There's never been a time that I haven't done that on every single podcast I've ever edited.

So they will 100% always be there.

So if you ever see someone leave that comment, you can let them know in the description.

You always.

Always, always, always.

Never not there.

Okay.

Next up, let's talk about the website.

So like I said, my website has sucked for a long time.

I've known it sucked for a long time.

I have wanted to revamp it for a very long time, but it's one of those things where it was

going to take time.

It was going to take money.

And I had too many other things always going on.

Well, I finally sat down completely overhauled my website, rebuilt it from scratch.

It is much better now.

And hopefully you'll do a much better job keeping it up to date because that was another

problem.

But I think I've got that mostly solved.

So I added some features that I just wanted to talk about to the website that I think

will be some great quality of life updates for people who have used my paddle database

because that was also really bad because it was basically a Google sheet.

And if you weren't a truly dedicated paddle nerd, you were never going to go through it.

Like I had the thing and I didn't want to go through it because I hated how much

it looked.

So there are three things I overhauled on the website that I think are really helpful.

One, I added a new paddle database.

So there's images that you can search through.

There are filters that are very clearly defined, common things that everyone filters their

paddle for, handle length, grip size, the year was released, which certification it has,

swing weight.

Anything you can think of, you can probably filter by it for the most part, at least the

things that are relevant.

And then there are images.

You can click on the images.

It'll expand into a paddle card and then it'll have like all these little bar charts and

all the info.

So it's much easier to look at and understand.

So if you ever want to find paddles that fit a certain criteria, the paddle database,

filters are a great way to do that.

Like you can filter paddles so quick and be like, you know what?

I only want to see paddles with five to five and a quarter inch handles.

Boom.

Now you can see there's 30 paddles in the database.

And you can look at those and decide if it's one you want to consider buying, right?

So that can be really helpful.

So I'm really happy with how the database came out.

And then the next thing is a paddle comparison tool.

So you can go over to that and then select four up to four different paddles you don't

have to do for.

And then you can compare all the stats side by side.

So instead of just looking at one and going, okay, the swing weight on is this, it's this,

blah, blah, blah.

You can now put all four side by side and be like, okay, here's the swing weight of this

one.

Here is the twist weight, here is handle length, whatever you want to see side by side can

compare it all.

So I think that's just a really handy way.

If you're stuck between a couple paddles and you don't want to go back and forth between

tabs, I think that's really nice.

And then the last thing, probably the thing I am most proud of on the website is the paddle

quiz.

So this is something I have had this idea for years.

I mean, probably even when I first made my database, but it just wasn't very realistic.

And this is one of the reasons I needed to migrate my website is because Squarespace was

so limiting in what I could build on it that I couldn't make these tools.

So company like paddle retailers have had quizzes for a long time, but the quizzes are

often very generic.

I don't think the questions are often that helpful to narrowing down the paddles.

And then you can also only filter by the paddles that the paddle retailer carries.

And a lot of times they don't carry brands that are like in the mid-size, which I think

at least to the enthusiasts are some of the more exciting brands.

So I figured, okay, I've got all this paddle database.

I should just be able to make a quiz that gives good recommendations, which I think is what

I have achieved.

So you go through this quiz.

It's got about eight or nine questions.

And the more specifically you can answer these questions, the better results you're going

to get.

If you answer very broadly, for example, one of the questions is what swing weight range

do you prefer?

And if you say 95 to 135, that's not going to help you very much.

That's just everything on the market.

It's everything on the market.

So if you're like, you know what, I like paddles that are between about one, five and one

twelve, that is a helpful filter.

And then there's a grip size filter.

Do you want four and a quarter and above or do you want four and one eighth and below?

You can also pick no preference, but if you pick no preference, again, big filter.

So the more specifically you can answer the questions on the quiz, the better results

you're going to get.

And then if you're broadly, you're not going to get that great of results.

And then at the end, it'll spit out paddles that show you like a matching percentage.

If it matches all of your criteria, it'll say 100%.

And then as it doesn't match criteria, if there weren't many paddles that match, you

might get like an 87% match or a 72% match.

And then it'll show you the things that didn't match your criteria on.

Maybe it was your price.

Maybe it was the grip size.

And then you can decide, okay, I can get over grip size, right?

Like I can play with four and a quarter, but I prefer four and one eighth.

So if the rest of the paddle does everything I want, I might get over it.

That can kind of help you decide.

So the paddle quiz is something I still need to tweak around a tiny bit more to get it

exactly where I want right now.

It will only show you the top eight options that match your criteria.

I might do some finagling.

So it shows you more just because I think eight might be a little bit limiting.

But yeah, I think eight in general, if you show more than eight, it's like that's

a lot of paddles to consider.

Yeah.

Imagine it shows you 20 paddles, you're like, well, which, I mean, that's more paddles

than I would even recommend if someone was asking me in person.

Exactly.

I keep it to like four, maybe five at the max, right?

Yeah.

So that was kind of the idea behind it.

I do think, for the most part, it's very good.

Actually, one of the things I was doing for a little while is when I was building it,

I would take people I knew, I knew what their preferences were and I would plug in what

their answers would be on the quiz to see if it would recommend that paddle they're using.

Yeah.

Because it was like, okay, if it's doing that, it's probably doing a pretty good job.

And the vast majority of the time I was getting the paddles they were using and I was like,

okay, it's working once.

Yeah, exactly for me.

Yeah, someone even emailed me yesterday and they're like, dude, I took your paddle quiz

and it literally recommended me the paddle I am mainly.

Yeah.

So obviously, it's going to need some tweaking.

It's not perfect.

If you find a bug or something that's really wonky, feel free to email me and let me know.

But I think it'll be a great place for people to get an idea of what paddles you might

want to start researching.

And that's the idea behind it.

It's not saying, hey, this is the recommendations.

Go buy it.

It's saying, hey, here are the options that matched.

Now go do your own research.

You can watch our reviews.

If we have content on it, you can go watch other reviewers.

It's just a narrow down your options because the paddle markets kind of insane.

Kind of flooded.

It's just so many options.

It gets really, really confusing, really stressful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So make it a little bit easier with this.

And so far, I mean, it's been really good.

I haven't noticed too many bugs.

I mean, like you said, if you make your selections too broad, it's not going to do a very

good job.

Yeah.

So narrowing down specifically what you like or, you know, it can be tough, right?

Especially if you're very new.

You just don't know what you want.

You just don't know what you want.

Like, you don't know if you like elongated paddles.

You don't know if you like four and a quarter grips or whatever.

It can be tricky.

Just mess around with it and see.

I mean, there's no harm in just doing a bunch of different selections over and over again.

Yeah.

The nice thing too is at the end of the paddle quiz, instead of having to retake the

quiz to change your results at the top of the bar, you can, it'll have all of the selections

you made so you can see, you know, I selected power.

I selected this shape.

I selected this swing way, whatever.

And then you can change those results and it'll update the quiz immediately with all

your new results.

Like, ah, you know what?

I actually don't care that much about a four and a quarter grip.

I'll just say a four and one eighth is actually what I want.

Then you could just make that change really quick.

Yeah.

Because originally when I built it, it made you restart and I was like, this is horrible.

I know that would suck.

Like, this is, I was getting tired of going through it.

I'm going to say that would get annoying.

I wanted to put this in six times.

Exactly.

No, I probably went through that quiz a couple hundred times and I was like, oh my gosh,

I'm so tired of clicking through this quiz.

Yeah, that would get annoying.

So yeah, let me know.

If you check out the website, we'll leave a link down in the description.

Feel free to leave me feedback.

And like I said, there will be a lot of updates coming, but these were the initial wave of

things that I was like, okay, I actually probably would have waited a couple more weeks to publish

this, but I was like, dude, literally anything is better than your current website.

Yeah.

Like, just get it on my current website was like the on XZ five of Pickable Paddle

websites.

It was garbage.

It was absolutely terrible.

So yeah, hopefully it's a little bit better now.

Yeah.

But anyways, those are the website updates.

Next up, man, we got to, we got to talk about some of the things that I'm going to do.

Some fun over here.

So PPA, Asia, dude.

This was a crazy tournament.

Dude, there's, okay.

Let's talk about the one that everyone saw.

Yup.

The hook against Christian Aushan.

This was so absurdly bad.

See, I disagree with it being so absurdly bad.

I would say bad.

Like absurdly, let me hear.

Let me hear.

No, no.

I don't know you as like my definition of absurdly bad was what happened to Fed.

That was absurdly bad.

That's the other one was like, this isn't good, but that one was a lot closer.

Fed was egregious.

Yes.

Egregiously bad.

So let's go through these one by one.

Let's, we'll start with the one that happened to Christian Aushan because we'll just go

and order.

Yup.

So I actually, I should have grabbed his name.

I completely forgot what the guy's name was.

But damn.

Yeah, but it was a much longer name.

It's Lee Hwangnam.

I've got it pulled up right here.

Oh, you do have it.

Yeah, I'm sure we're completely bitchering that.

I know I've butchered that.

I've heard people just call him that.

That's sure.

That works.

We'll go with them.

Okay.

So Christian Aushan, it's game three, match point, 11, 10.

And then Christian Aushan hits a return very close to the baseline.

It gets called out.

Name is celebrating.

Christian Aushan's immediately speeding like, no, that ball was in, dude.

And you know, the whole arena is like, you just look at the score line.

Yeah, of the match.

It was first game, 12, 10, that, uh, nam wins.

Then Aushan pickles him and then it's 12, 10 in the third.

Dude, it's crazy to me that singles is like that.

How do you go from having a game that's 12, 10 to pickling someone to another that's 12, 10?

I mean, think about it.

It's just, well, singles is a game of, of runs and streaks, right?

Somebody can hot for six points, put you back in momentum.

And if it's close like that, 12, 10, you might be both pretty burnt out or tired.

But maybe Aushan conserved a little bit more energy.

Name's super tired for that second game.

And he just doesn't, he can't expand enough energy to, you know, get to the ball.

Aushan gets on a big streak and just has the momentum to close it out.

And then since you maybe didn't put as much energy into that second game,

he got pickled.

Now you recovered a little bit into that third game.

Yeah.

And you can just use a little bit more.

So that's a very, it's very common.

I know.

I just crazy how common it is.

Yeah.

I mean, even like the Chris Hayworth versus Zane,

I mean, that was a certain triple pickles nuts.

That was insane.

So anyways, calls the ball out.

It's like right at the baseline and then they inside the line.

Yeah, I'm calling it, I mean, either on top or inside half of the line.

It's not close.

So when I first saw this, I think it's close.

Here's how I would say it.

When I saw the baseline camera angle, which is the first one I saw the stream, I was like,

okay, look, I think that ball is in, but lower frame rate, not a high shutter speed.

It's like, I've seen balls that are out that looked in in this case.

And so I was like, okay, I'll wait a minute.

And then I keep looking around.

Then someone was like, hey, there's another angle on my story.

Then all these other angles started coming out.

When I finally found an angle that was purely from the side, that's when I was like, no,

no, this ball's in.

This ball is inside the line.

For sure in.

Yeah, without a doubt.

But what's crazy is I don't think I have ever seen truly a PPA pickable, a pro pickable

ball clip that maybe went more viral or had more memes made about it so quickly.

Yes, I mean, he became the most hated man in pickable like that.

I mean, instantly.

But it wasn't even like that.

To me, it was like you had random content creators who I'd never even seen before, like

reenacting everything.

And I was like, these are hilarious.

Yeah.

At that point, I didn't even care about the hook.

I was just like, these people are making absolute bangers of memes.

I wish I was trying to find them for my wife last night and I just couldn't find any

of them, but there were so many.

There were so many.

Like the thing that just killed me about what happened and this is what some of the

memes were about was after this match happened where Kirshenosh was clearly upset,

understandably so.

They make him take a picture with the guy.

That's crazy.

I mean, having to stand next to him.

You don't even really want a paddle to happen.

You got to stand next and smile and take a picture.

No shot.

You would not catch me doing that after I just got hooked on Matt.

Match point game three, 12, 10 dude.

I mean, look, I personally after watching both angles think without a doubt it was in.

I don't think it was that close.

That's pretty bad, right?

Like we've seen people here in the States be pretty, pretty bad.

And dude, refs are useless.

Everyone I will get to that one in a second.

I mean, in more than one case, right?

Like they're just not ever going to overturn one of those calls.

I get, I don't know, it's tough.

I'm sure he really wants to win.

I think he's being a means it was in Vietnam, right?

Yeah.

I get you want to beat, you know, one of the players, one of the best singles players.

But man, I don't know.

That's a pretty bad call.

I remember he had, what was this a year ago now?

He had another incident where he had a really bad call.

And I think he was getting so much hate that he deleted all the social medias.

All right, yeah, I made a private, I heard about something like that.

I mean, it's, if you have a history of this, like, again, I'm in the camp of like,

at least here in the States or PPAs, we now have a review system for people who have

bad line calls and cheating.

This needs to be standardized.

Like this is lit in my opinion, just absolutely ruining the sport.

Can you allow people to make their own line calls in competitive settings where points

and money is on the line?

People are always going to be incentivized to call it in their favor if it's close.

Or even if it's not that close in this situation.

See, what has modified my opinion about this is like, I find that it's like, it depends

what the history is, right?

Like I saw some, some clip resurfaced that was like, oh, this was from the same guy,

like a year ago or whatever, right?

So like, okay, let's say you've been playing pickleball like as long as us, like four years.

Like, okay, we've all made a bad call that we didn't mean to be a bad call, right?

So it's like, okay, if you have two instances across the tournament and, you know, of course,

there could be more that we have no idea.

I mean, these are only two PPAs in Asia that we've seen, right?

There's a lot of other tournaments in Asia that aren't this big or stream that we're

watching.

You just also don't know, right?

Like, it's hard to just assume, okay, well, if we just didn't see him, like we can't

just assume, like, for sure, someone always makes a bad call.

The thing that makes some of the line calls now more understandable for me is that one

that I had last year at that PPA at Worlds.

I was, remember the one where I hooked someone and I was convinced.

Mixed men?

No, men's, remember?

Oh!

It was a mess and knocked me out.

Yeah.

This is what made me have a little bit more grace for some of these situations.

So I'll tell the story because there was never a video about, I should just post a video

because honestly, it'd make a great video.

I was playing in the backdrop at Worlds, men's 5.0 and we were down a lot the whole match.

Like it was maybe we were down like 4.12 and then we had a run and we got up to maybe

11 or something.

So around this point, it's like 11.14 and 12.14, right?

We're close, but we're still down.

They, we get in a, well, first there was two things.

There was a serve hit to me that my partner called out.

I felt the ball was out as well, but it was hard for me to see, right?

Like I'm moving and hitting the ball and it's like right below me.

So I was like, he called it out and I was like, okay, yeah, it's out.

And I believe I did go back and look at that and I believe that serve was out.

But in the moment that kind of annoyed them, right?

They're like, dude, that was really close.

I was like, dude, I don't know.

Like hard for me to see.

If I feel like I saw the ball, I will always tell them, like, look, I've overruled my

partners many times.

I have no problem doing that.

And then either the very next point or a couple points after that, I can't really

remember.

Basically, we're in a hands battle.

They hit kind of a softer block that floats over into a corner and literally both of me

and my partner turn our heads towards the line, see it land.

And it like literally in sync, put our fingers up.

Like I didn't even think it was a controversial call.

And the second we put our fingers up, they were like losing it.

They were like, there's no way that ball is out.

Like that ball is in.

And I normally, if someone's that confident, I'm more so the type of person to be like,

okay, look, if you're that confident, maybe I'm wrong.

But in that moment, I was so convinced that ball was out.

Like if you asked me to bet money on that line call, I would have bet money that ball

was out.

And then when I went home and looked at the footage, I was like, oh my gosh, that ball

was like, for sure, on the inside half of the line, not the outside half.

And all of you guys afterward, because we had a big friend group watching.

Everyone was like, bro, that ball was in.

And thankfully, we lost that match.

So it all ended up working itself out.

At least we didn't win.

And then I learned that after I would have felt really bad, I found the guy later and

was like, hey, dude, I'm sorry.

I really thought that ball was in.

But that situation without out, yeah, with how that went, I now feel a little bit more

sympathy for other people.

Obviously, if they have a history of cheating, right?

And then I don't have much of a sympathy.

But if it's like one of the first few times that's happened, I'm like, okay, I've made

that mistake.

And I wouldn't have wanted that clip to come out.

This is why I think having players make their own line calls.

And that's just an amateur event.

Not for money, just for a medal.

These guys are playing for money, career points, sponsorships.

It's a big deal.

So allowing them to make their own calls and then also just rest like in singles, what

are you looking at?

Rarely ever do footfalls happen in singles.

We'll get to that.

Look, the Asia market is blowing up.

It's growing like crazy.

I personally think it's going to exceed what we have here in the US because over there,

pickle balls perceived as like a legit sport and people actually love it.

So I don't know.

I just feel like things, things need to get fixed over there.

We haven't even fixed it in the US.

I don't think it's getting fixed in Asia for a minute.

And we can't fix it in our own country.

I don't think we're fixing it over there anytime soon.

But let's move on to the, the fed one because this one was a lot worse than I think.

That's not bad.

So I don't know what the score line was.

I can't remember if it was the same player, right?

It was someone else.

Someone else.

Well, it didn't even matter what the player was, to be honest, because it was the ref.

Yeah.

But basically, fed hits a volley.

His paddle then hits the ground and the ref calls a foot fault.

Like, hey, your paddle hit the kitchen line after you've all had so they called a fault.

But then you watch the clip back, bro is like a foot and a half a way from the kitchen

line.

He wasn't even close.

No, we're near the line.

I know you might be asking in both instances, why didn't Christian Alshon challenge?

He couldn't because he wasn't on center court.

And then why didn't fed challenge?

Bed was on center court, but he was out of time outs.

So he couldn't challenge.

Yeah.

That, and look, I haven't looked at the score line.

So I don't know if it was really even close to how much that impacted the match.

I don't even really care about that.

It doesn't really matter to me.

But that like, that call was so bad.

Like, oh, it was so bad.

And so that player beating fed made the finals in all Vietnamese player finals.

Right?

There are no Americans made it to the finals or US players.

Now I'm not saying that that ref was paid to make that happen.

I'm just, I'm just joking around.

Yeah, be crazy.

That would be crazy.

But yeah, that call was just wild.

I mean, that was so bad.

That was one of those ones where I was like, this is the one thing you have to watch.

How did you, like, he wasn't close?

Yeah.

I don't know what that ref was.

I mean, that ref was three blind mice.

That's pretty crazy.

That one, yeah, that one was so much worse than the first one to me.

When I saw that one, at first, I was like, what was the fault?

I was like, he didn't do anything.

And then when they played in slow-mo, I was like, oh, that's bad.

Not even close.

It's so bad.

I don't know.

That was crazy to me.

I'm sure everyone saw it.

Like, even people I wouldn't have expected to see that were like messaging me.

Like, did you see this?

And I was like, oh, man.

And I'm like seeing the shares on some of these puzzles.

I'm like, oh, my gosh, it's everywhere.

Yeah, it blew up really fast.

So, okay.

Last piece of news before we get on to paddle topic stuff.

So, Auggie has moved on from Proton.

Obviously, he can't play with the Proton paddle anymore.

I think his contract was probably also up.

Auggie is now signed with 11,624.

So, 11,624 now has Decal and Auggie.

And Auggie is great.

Like, Auggie is, he's like one of those pros where you're just like, dude.

Like, could you be a nicer guy?

Auggie's the goat.

Yeah, he is.

I'm very happy to see him sign there.

I think that's going to be really exciting.

That's also just a nice feather in 11,624's cap.

Like, that'll just be another like, hey, look, we're legit.

Which is funny, because, you know, I think brands like this are kind of funny, because

it's like reviewers have known this for a long time, and then all of a sudden they

get some pros and everyone's like, oh, yeah, that coming.

It's like, yeah, we've been trying to tell you that for two years.

Like, yeah.

So, but no, I think that'll be really good.

I'm excited to see how he does.

Yeah.

And I'll probably have another update for you guys on Hexgrit next week.

My tester who's been doing stuff for me just crossed 300 games.

So next week, we'll have an update for you.

Nice.

I'm very curious to see what all the other proton or former proton sign players are going

to start using.

I mean, everyone, I mean, if they don't immediately sign, we all know they use a yellow

baby to start.

I'm going to say I'm going to have to that question for you.

I'm trying to think we've got the Walker sisters were using proton, cow modus,

cow modus, Megan is on, Megan is on.

And then what are the other guys?

I mean, Andre had moved DJ had left DJ had left.

I know I'm missing somebody.

Yeah.

Travis, he left a while ago.

I think we haven't really seen him play.

Yeah, I don't know what he's been using lately.

He's been like, you know, in his videos on social media, he's been using a bunch of

different paddles.

Yep.

I'm not.

I know I'm missing somebody.

I just had, there was another proton player.

I can't.

Yeah, I can.

Andre Mercado, the young kid.

Oh, sure.

I'm curious to see what he uses.

But yeah, Oggi, you know, he's using 116 so many fours.

He's got to get a paddle on his hands better than proton, my opinion.

Yeah, I agree.

So yeah, pretty cool.

Yeah.

So all right, let's talk.

Before we get to some of the paddles, I want to talk about some paddle terminology stuff.

This shouldn't take too long to go over.

It's just one of those things where I realized, you know, as reviewers, like there are a lot

of terms we say.

And over time, if you watch enough videos, you probably start to pick up like, okay, this

is kind of what this means.

But it is that we should probably just talk about some.

Yeah, but if you're just, if you're coming in right now into watching our videos or any

other reviewers videos, there really isn't anyone who's given a good explanation of what

these are as of recent.

Yes.

So let's talk about swing weight because this is, we're not going to do all of them.

I just made a quick list of things that I was like, this would be good for people to

know the basics.

We're going to start with swing weight.

So swing weight in my opinion is probably one of the more important things you should know.

A lot of people still like to say, I need a light paddle.

And then they say, I need it to be 7.8 ounces or less.

That really doesn't tell you anything.

Weight is kind of in a relevant metric nowadays.

It's really, if you only look at static weight, it just can't tell you that much because, let's

say you've got 7.8 ounces, right?

And let's say that was distributed perfectly throughout the paddle, 50% on one half, 50%

on another half.

That's not usually how paddles work, right?

The weight is more distributed in one, in an area more than another.

So if you took 7 point, we'll do easy math here.

We'll do an eight ounce paddle.

Let's say you had four ounces up top four ounces on bottom.

Now let's say you had another paddle where it was actually, I'm going to go to the extreme

here, seven ounces near the top of the paddle and one ounce in the bottom.

Those paddles have the same exact static weight.

They will not swing the same at all.

One will feel heavier than the other.

The more leverage.

Exactly.

The further away it is from your hand, the heavier it's going to feel as you swing it because

it takes more effort to get that paddle to move.

Correct.

An obvious example that a lot of people will use when trying to teach people about swing

weight is if you take a hammer, right?

The hammer weighs the same exact weight no matter how you hold it.

But if you hold the hammer normal and swing it, it's going to feel pretty heavy because

you have a lot of mass far from your hand.

But if you take the hammer and then hold the head, the part that hits the nail in your

hand and now you have it upside down and you swing it, it's going to feel very fast.

The static weight did not change, but the swing weight did change because of how you're

holding it.

So swing weight, the range, it's a number and it can range.

I'm going to say as low as 90, all the way up to 135.

Not often.

These are the extremes.

That's like, as I said, 135 is a crazy extreme.

I think nowadays the extreme end for a stock paddle is 130.

Rarely do we ever see that.

And that's pretty rare.

I would say 125 is kind of like the, you don't see it that often anymore.

Yeah, it used to be around that 125 and a little bit higher and then you get the occasional

outlier that's crazy.

That's high.

But nowadays for a long gated and obviously the shape matters, right?

Longated paddles because it's longer.

There's going to be further mass away from your hand.

They're naturally going to be heavier in swing weight and wide bodies.

As you go down in the shapes, they have lower swing weights because the weight is getting

closer to your hand.

They're not as long.

Exactly.

So elongated is now the high end is like 125.

Maybe 127.

And most, honestly, even these days with a lot of the foam paddles, most of them not going

much higher than like 123.

They're all in a pretty healthy range.

So, hey, here's how I would explain it to people.

90 to about 104 is like ultra light.

Like there's not even that many paddles that go that light.

It's very, a very small number of paddles.

Very small group.

Those would be great junior paddles.

Yeah.

Right.

You literally cannot swing something that's even in the normal range that if that feels

heavy, then you got to look for these like ultra feather light paddles.

And hey, you can now filter that on my database on my website.

And it doesn't suck.

So, but I'm afraid to do that.

But the downside of that is they're not going to feel that great stock because they're

so light and they don't have very much mass behind them.

The ball is actually going to move the paddle in your hand a lot more.

So you might feel harsher feedback.

It twisting more in your hand.

Less power on drives because you don't have much plow through, which is just how well

the paddle is actually able to go through and push the ball.

And so naturally, you're going to have to add weight to your paddle to get it to feel

better, which is going to bring it up.

But because it's so light, you have a range that allows you to put weight on the paddle.

Totally.

So, 90 to about 104 ultra light.

105 to about 111 or so, maybe even 112.

I would still consider that a pretty light paddle for most people.

Once you go to about 112 to, I'd say, 117, 118, that's more the like normal range.

You're going to find a lot of hybrid paddles in that range.

And then you'll find some wide bodies and elongated paddles, lighter elongated heavier

wide bodies that might cross into there.

And then once you go about 118 plus, that's typically where a lot of elongated paddles

live or paddles that will feel slower to maneuver.

So, most people, like I said, 112 to 118, very healthy range.

You'll be able to swing it.

106 to about 112.

Again, a light range, a lot of wide bodies are in there.

And then as you go up to the 118 and higher, tennis player is probably going to like that.

It's still going to feel way lighter than your tennis racket, but it still has some mass

behind it.

It'll plow through the ball better.

So drives will be heavier.

Usually when you go for a block, the paddle or the ball is not moving you as much.

So there are perks to higher swing weights.

What I usually recommend to people is you need to learn what your highest viable swing

weight is that you're comfortable playing with because you would rather play with something

as heavy as you can handle.

So you have more plow through more stability versus being like, well, I just want something

ultra light because there are downsides to playing with ultra light paddles.

There's always tradeoffs on both ends of the spectrum.

There's going to be benefits on one and downsides on the on both right.

You get you get both sides.

Yep.

So you just have to learn what's better for you.

Eyes can eye are a little bit more on opposites.

I don't need feather light.

I would say my ideal range is anywhere between probably like 108 up to 118 is like, I'm

fine.

Rarely do you ever like to play with the paddle on the upper team.

But some of the paddles after I've had them weighted recently, that's close to where

they are.

They're like in the probably 115 to almost 118 range.

You get a little bit more muscle on your bones.

I guess so.

I guess the gym's paying off.

So yeah, you know, and you just play with a lot of paddles and you eventually look the

paddles up and learn kind of what their range is like, okay, the paddle I'm playing with

is typically between 112 and 115.

And I like this.

That's maybe how I want to shop for my next paddle.

But yeah, swing weight much better number to learn instead of static weight.

Static weight just stop using it.

Yep.

It's borderline useless.

But that's swing weight.

Hopefully that helps you understand the number range, why you want to pick it and so on.

Okay.

And also just if this wasn't obvious swing weight, just like static weight varies, right?

If a paddle is lighter or heavier, depending on where the weight weight was removed or added,

the swing weight could be a little higher or a little lower.

So if you see a reviewer say, hey, my paddle was 112.

This is why on screen and all of our reviews, I always say at the bottom, these are the

measurements of our specific units.

There's always variance, manufacturer variance.

Correct.

I would say on average, about a four, maybe five point variance.

That's a pretty big nowadays.

I feel like it's gotten that gap that dispersion has tightened a bit.

I think on average, I'd say it's closer like three to four on the high end.

Yeah.

Five is pretty rare.

I mean, to be that big.

Five would be pretty bad.

And a really light one, a really heavy one, you might say it's possible.

Yeah.

Okay.

Next up, we'll try and go through this a little quicker.

RPM.

So you might hear, hey, this paddle gets 2000 RPM.

Not the company.

Revolutions per minute, which is what their brand stands for.

But spin.

So this is something that like I had made this test a long time ago as a way to measure spin.

And people might not be familiar with the ways it can be done.

So there are a couple of ways right now.

You can shoot with a slow motion camera.

In my opinion, the minimum needs to be 240 frames a second.

If it's any less than that, I don't think the data is very reliable.

You can mark a ball, do a serve, and then you can count how many frames it took to complete

a revolution.

And then that will tell you your revolutions per minute.

That's how I used to do it.

Then I bought the Stalker Pro 3S Radar Gun, which can actually measure RPM in real time.

And so that's what I use now.

And so when we do our RPM for paddles for this longevity grit test, I've been doing

20 serves.

And then I average that number.

And that is the RPM of the paddle.

And the past I was doing 10, I'm only doing 20 right now just to tighten the data for

this longevity grit testing.

But 10 is usually what I was doing.

Now I see a lot of times people say, I'll get emails like, hey, Chris, I saw you got

2000, 70 RPM for this paddle.

But John was saying it was 2300 RPM.

Like, why is your so low?

You really cannot compare RPMs across different reviewers.

You can only compare within their own database.

So like if you're comparing paddles, you could compare Johns, all of you could compare a

boomstick to a Q2 for him.

And then you could do the same within my database, but you can't compare them across because

different techniques in how they do it.

Also depending on if the reviewer is doing it with a slow motion camera or a radar gun,

I think the results can also be a little different.

So it's better to just pick a database and compare within there.

You know, John maybe just has a better technique to generate more spin.

Yeah, player mechanics matters.

He also has longer arms than me, longer lever, right?

Yep.

So different things like that are going to be different.

But in general guys, RPMs, I would say the actual number is so much less important today

when buying a paddle than it has ever been in the past.

Yeah.

Four years ago, paddle grits were so different in the industry that it actually did make

a difference because some were ultra smooth, like glass smooth.

And that's smooth.

When people think smooth now, they think like a pro five.

No, no, no, we're talking slicker, way slicker than that.

And paddles that actually had grit.

Okay.

These days, everyone's kind of doing the same thing.

Most of the limits have been capped.

So a lot of paddles like every time I go out, most paddles for me about between 2000 and

like 2150.

They really don't range outside of that much.

RPM numbers, that metric used to matter a lot more back in the day.

Now everything's gotten so good that as long as it's over 2000, it's fine.

Even 1900 is okay, right?

Anything under that starts to be noticeable for me.

And it's like not that great.

But I haven't tested a paddle in a while that new and stock came in below 1900.

Yeah, or it was like, oh, this isn't good.

It's pretty rare.

Yeah.

So I really would never recommend shopping based on RPM.

But people ask me all the time to like, what is the best spinning paddle?

And it's so hard to give a recommendation for that because it's like, I don't know how

you hit the ball.

I don't know what your technique looks like.

That matters drastically.

Also people's perception, right?

Sometimes your technique can be better with certain paddles.

Some companies skirt the lines more when it comes to grit.

Some companies follow the rules more.

Like there's so many variables that it's really hard to say this is the highest spinning

paddle.

And do you think the ones that are standing out are some of the newer longevity grids,

like the P1 and hex grit?

But that's more so to do that the spin lasts a long time rather than the paddle gets

insane spin.

Other than that the P1 on soft shots does get like really good spins.

But that's a whole like different category.

If it's just regular raw carbon fiber P apply, it's like all the same.

Yeah.

So that's kind of what I would say about RPM.

Really wouldn't worry about it these days.

Paddle shapes.

So there's three paddle shapes, the long gated, hybrid and wide body.

Sometimes also called a standard.

But I would say generally speaking somewhat interchangeable.

Yeah, mostly interchangeable in my opinion.

So a long gated paddles the way these are all defined or by measurements.

So a long gated paddles are 16 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 by 7 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.

Usually it's the length we're looking at here.

So there's a there's a maximum allowable square inch of what a paddle is allowed to be.

24 inches combined with end length.

And so anytime you shrink the length, you're able to increase the width, which is how these

paddles change in shape.

So like you said, elongated 16.5 by 7.5.

So when you shrink that, then you now get a little bit extra space and you get to make

a little wider.

Correct.

So that's how hybrid comes in.

Those usually range between 16.2 to 16.3 by 7.7 or by 7.8.

And that doesn't sound like very much of a change.

It's very small on paper.

Sounds very small.

And even to the eye, it might not look like a big difference, but when it comes to swing

weight change and other metrics, it changes drastically.

A lot.

A lot.

And playability in your hands.

That quarter inch for a hybrid will often shave off a very good chunk of swing weight.

Like a quarter inch, you hold them up and you're like, this can't possibly do anything.

I won't even notice a difference.

But then it drops like six or more swing weight points, which in my opinion, swing weight

points for anyone wondering, a big enough noticeable change for me is anywhere between

three and four.

Once you change about three to four points, that's a pretty noticeable change.

This is not like a lot.

I do say from 117 to 120, at least maybe for me, and you know, obviously I test a lot

of paddles.

I'm pretty in tune with how paddles feel.

That's pretty noticeable change for me.

Maybe for most people, it's a little bit wider, maybe five to six points.

That's what I would say is a much bigger noticeable change.

If you haven't played with a lot of paddles, that's when you're going to start to notice

a big difference.

Agree.

What I usually tell people is around five, if you compare two paddles that have a five

point difference, they'll probably usually be able to, okay, this one feels heavier.

And then once you go up to 10, that's massive.

Everyone would know the difference.

It's crazy.

Like there's no way you couldn't know the difference.

Like 10 is a huge gap.

Yeah.

So if you're comparing one 10 to 120, big gap.

If you're comparing one 10 to 115, you'll notice it, but you might get over it.

Yep.

So glad you brought that up.

And then wide bodies, those are 16 inches in length and then eight inches wide.

So and then a lot of times in the past, this is how the terminology went.

So standard was 16 by eight.

And then wide body was anything wider than eight inches and lower than 16 inches.

But honestly, I think it's a much better term to just go wide body for everything.

It just simplifies everything.

Now one thing that matters though, that's important inside of these shapes, you have the three

categories, but not all elongated are created equal.

Not all wide bodies are created equal, right?

So you might have a paddle that is distinguished as a wide body, two different ones, but their

shapes are very different.

One might have a curved top, one might be flat, one might have a longer handle, one might

have a bit shorter handle.

And same thing goes for elongated paddles.

You might have an elongated pad with a 5.75 inch handle.

You might have an elongated with a 5 inch handle and those faces are going to look very

different and they're going to feel very different in your hands.

So just because one two paddles say elongated does not mean they're the same.

Yeah.

So finding which shape or style handle inside of those categories matters quite a bit.

For sure.

It's really just telling you how long or how wide the paddle is.

Yep.

It's really what those are telling you.

Also, throat tapers can be different, which that if you have a two handed backhand,

that can matter quite a bit.

One might be more comfortable than the other.

Yep.

For sure.

So, and like we said earlier, choosing your, if you're trying to find a specific swing weight,

it is often easier if you can be a little flexible on your shape.

For example, if you only want an elongated paddle, but you also want a swing weight of

110, there are not a lot of paddles.

Almost doesn't exist.

In fact, we're going to keep talking about this.

I'm going to actually, we'll make use of my words.

We're going to test it right now.

We'll pull it up and see what the filter says.

How many paddles in my database are elongated under 110?

Yeah, so it's not going to be meant to.

There'll maybe be one.

No, it'll be more than that.

I think like you said, if you are married to the idea of using an elongated, like someone

like me, you have to accept the fact that you are going to have heavier paddles.

It's very rare.

The only ones I can think of off top of my head that are elongated and light, like the

Franklin C4514, the rhombus quantus, I mean, most 14 millimeter paddles are going to

be on the lighter side because there's just less material there.

But that's not always the case.

There are heavier 14s.

I think I actually might be missing a couple in here.

I need to double check.

Here were the paddles, the mower air.

Actually, I don't think that's not on here.

Rhombus quantus R1.

This was and this was filtering 110 or lower.

Magnus Pro 4, 14 millimeter.

Friday, if you want.

Under 110 or at 110.

We might have got a really light one too.

The metal bone 4, 14.5, the Thompson 515 Uni, unless there was a typo in ours, the

project 007, 10 millimeter.

That makes sense.

The Franklin FS2 or Dynasty 12 millimeter, 60 sapphire, and then there was a pursuit

Pro 1 midweight.

I guess we'll turn on that.

But as you can see, my whole point I was trying to make was if you are married to an elongated

paddling, you need a swing weight that low.

There are not a lot of options.

You drastically widen your net if you change to wide body.

If I go to wide body, now there's 58 paddles by day.

Or even hybrid.

Right.

Going from, if you're stuck to the idea of an elongated and then jumping straight to

a wide body for someone like me, I wouldn't recommend that.

That's a pretty big difference.

If you need to have something lighter and there's no options for you in elongated, obviously

I think the better next step would just be to a hybrid.

I agree.

I was more just saying like, it's often easier to find lighter for sure in a wide body.

So just know that choosing your shape can massively influence how heavy or light of a

paddle you're going to get.

Okay.

We're going to skip a couple and just do this one really quick because I think this is

the more important one to go over.

So feel.

This is a thing that is often very confusing.

And really, I think until you have hit paddles that people generally agree upon and feel

it for yourself, it's going to be very hard to understand what these terms actually

mean.

And they're maybe not always subjective, but it can be.

It's definitely subjective.

It's definitely subjective.

Different people have different interpretations of some of these things.

So all credit to John.

These are all terms people have used for a long time, but John kind of made it into a chart

that I think is pretty universally accepted at this point and makes it easier to understand.

Nope.

So basically, if you did a left to right axis and a vertical axis up and down left to

right, I believe on John's chart, left side is dense, right side is hollow.

So you can shift left to right and go dense or hollow.

Those terms I feel are pretty self explanatory.

Hollow.

If you hit a paddle, like it just feels like the inside of the paddle is very hollow when

you hit it.

Pattles like this tend to be the Selkirk boom stick, the bread and butter logo.

A lot of the recent foam power paddles tend to feel more hollow.

Kind of like knocking on a wall where there's no framing.

Yeah, no stud, no two by four and then finding one where there is a two by four.

It's going to feel different.

It's going to sound different.

That's essentially how it is with paddles.

And then dense, just when you hit it, it just feels like very solid.

Yeah.

Like you're hitting your like, oh, we can't.

Okay, that's firm.

Like it does not feel like there's this weird echo sensation when you hit it.

And those two are typically opposites.

The more hollow something is, the less dense it is.

And the more denser it is.

The hollow paddles are also very loud.

Yes.

Yeah, that's agreed.

And then on the vertical axis, bottom you have soft and up top you have stiff.

So these often are also opposites.

So soft, I would say the best way I feel like I described is when a paddle is really,

really soft like all the way at the bottom and you hit it, kind of feels like you're

hitting it with like a pillow.

Like it absorbs a lot.

It feels very cushioned.

You don't feel a lot of vibration.

If you played with a luxe, that would be the most soft.

That's like in that far corner of soft.

Agree.

And then stiff, it just kind of feels like sometimes a board is a way people describe

it or it feels very hard when you hit it.

Like it just like gets off the face very quick.

It can be loud.

You get more vibration often on stiff paddles.

It's kind of one of those things where once you hit one, you know it right again, another

paddle that falls in the stiff category, the logo, the boom stick.

There are a lot of gen three paddles that tend to be more on the stiff side pro four.

Any gen two?

And the stiff fiberglass.

Yep.

Those are pretty stiff.

And so paddles are a combination of all of those things, right?

You'll usually have stiff and hollow or soft and dense, like a soft and dense paddle

to me, six zero coral.

Yep.

It feels very dense.

It absorbs a lot of vibration.

Friday or a.

Yep.

Friday or a then you go all the way to the other extreme.

I've already said it a couple times, but the boom stick that is like stiff hollow.

That's all the way in the top corner.

And then you know, you can have any combination.

You could have soft and hollow.

There are not a lot of paddles like that.

And then there's dense and stiff, two different corners.

That's the forbidding category.

The dense and stiff corner, you know, we just don't look at that corner.

We don't talk about that one.

That's the, yeah, yeah, we throw that in the basement and hide it.

Yeah.

So those, that's kind of just a general glimpse of what those terms mean.

It's a good way to help people understand what paddles are.

If you're new though, like I said, you're just going to have to hit some paddles and hear

how people describe those.

And then you start catching on like, okay, this is what people mean when they say stiff

and hollow, right?

Like if you hit a boom stick, you'll know what stiff and hollow is.

Yeah.

Pretty quick.

Yep.

And then go to the other extreme 60 chord.

So, okay, let's just move on to paddles because we can, we can do more episodes on this.

I think we could do a lot more terminology stuff in the future.

For sure.

So, first one, this is up for pre-order now.

The enhanced duo hybrid, they had it in the wide body, they had it in the elongated.

And now they have their hybrid, which is just a crazy long handle.

Little goofy shape.

It is definitely looks a little goofy, but apparently people like it.

So, if you liked the duo, but you just wanted a hybrid, it's now out.

We haven't hit it, but just thought I'd mention it.

I think it ships in like one to two weeks is what the website was saying.

Yep.

Now, we're going to come back to the Franklin Arilius.

So I had more time on it this week.

I've had about three sessions with it now.

And I have quite a bit to say.

I've put a little bit of time on to it now.

Okay.

We're talking about the 12.7 millimeter because this is just the one I got to spend more

time with.

And I think it's probably the more interesting one.

The 14 and 16 probably what I would assume is just going to be like the, why can't I think

of the shape, not the dynasty, the tempo.

Pretty much the same.

Yeah, yeah, right.

I don't think it's going to be that different from that because there's a whole new thickness

here that kind of changes things.

So we'll go over a couple things.

I'm going to go over this quick stock because I got to play it stock.

Okay, look, it is very light.

We talked about this last week.

It's a 92 swing weight.

That's awesome if you want something that light.

But like we said earlier, there are big drawbacks to paddles that light.

And this one has those drawbacks, unfortunately.

So in stock form, it gets pushed around a lot.

It doesn't have a lot of plow through.

These are all things you'd expect by the way.

This is not like, it means drives are not going to hit very hard.

Yeah, plow through when it's really light.

It's difficult to generate speed.

Resets are hard because it's just the balls pushing it around so much the sweet spot felt

very unforgiving.

In stock form, I was kind of like, well dang, this paddle was a let down.

I was kind of disappointed.

Then I was like, okay, look, we got to put some weight on it.

So I wrapped the, pretty much the entire head.

If you're watching the podcast, you can see at the very bottom of the throat, there's

like a two inch gap maybe where I didn't.

So I wrapped the entire head and that was 36 grams of weight, which is a lot.

That's like almost an ounce and a half of weight.

I was like, let's just go to the extreme.

And for context, that was a 118 swing weight.

So it defeated the entire burbs of the battle, went from 92 to 118, basically in a long

gain in paddle.

So but holy moly did that paddle slap after that.

Like my drives were so much fun.

I don't know if I dropped the ball again after that because I was like, I think there was

a game where we were down like three, nine, three, ten or something and I looked at

parents like, we're winning this game.

And I literally just drove every ball after that.

We riled off like six points in a row just for me serving the ball hard and driving.

So it was a ton of fun.

It was a lot slower, but it fixed all my cons, right?

Sweet spot was a lot better.

I loved how it felt.

Counters felt good.

Resets were fine.

I really didn't have any complaints at that point other than that, probably heavier than

what this paddle was intended for.

So I liked it, but then when I saw was 118 swing weight, I took the strip off the head and

this is another great lesson and swing weight for everyone.

As we said, the further the weight is from your hand, the swing weight goes up a lot faster.

So if you put half an ounce in the center of your paddle, obviously you can't do that

but let's say a three and nine did half an ounce.

And then you took that same half an ounce and put it up top.

The swing weight will go up so fast at the head versus the sides.

Like that is very different in how it impacts swing weight.

So I took 12 grams off the head of the paddle and that took the swing weight from 118 all

the way down to 104.

So there's still 24 grams of weight on this, which is way more weight than what people

usually put on their paddles.

And 104 is still in what I would call the ultra light category.

So if you buy this paddle, I just want to encourage people that you can put a lot of weight

on this and still have it be very maneuverable.

Like I wouldn't play it stock unless you have to and for whatever reason, ultra light is

more important to you than any other factor.

And I don't know if I've ever met somebody who was that adamant about having something

that light.

A great, completely agree.

So at three and nine, I think you have a lot of options for customizing and this paddle

will not get out of hand.

Because 104, like I said, is still ultra maneuverable.

And I found I still had pretty much all the perks.

Like my drives were still great.

I love driving the ball with this paddle.

Resets were still fine.

I think I would maybe consider a three gram strip at the head for a tiny bit more plow

through, but it's mostly fine.

So I really, I went from like stock, hate this thing, then wrapping the entire head to

like, okay, this is probably too heavy for most people.

And then once I landed on this, I was having a ton of fun with it.

Like really, I don't know if it's a paddle I would main just because it's probably the

handle length.

Yeah.

But I liked how it felt enough that I think if you threw me an tournament with it, I'd

be fine.

I was enjoying it a lot.

I didn't even put an over grip on it.

You I played the grip stock.

You would have to pay me an absorbing amount of money to get this in my hands of the tournament.

I mean, Jeff Bezos might not have enough.

I mean, I played with it.

I used it.

We hit it this morning.

I played some more competitive games last night and I used it.

And performance wise is fine.

I think obviously what it does really well was great.

Hands battles was very fast.

I was able to hit really nice flicks, but the downsides, not a lot of power on drives,

resets were a bit more difficult, even with the weight.

It felt really soft on drops, which I didn't really like.

I felt like I had to push and put a lot more effort into drops, which I'm not a fan

of.

So it doesn't have as much pop as I would typically like and put a ways, weren't that great.

So all the things I really enjoy, it's just the opposite of handspeed is typically not

something I feel like I struggle a ton with.

Yeah.

So I you prefer the plow through I prefer the plow through over faster hands.

So even though it was nice to have really quick hands and have that speed, I didn't

feel like that was something I was lacking lacking.

So I think I can recognize the group of people that are going to like this.

I think it's going to be incredible for.

But as we said, it's not a big group of people.

Yeah.

And glad you brought that up because I actually forgot to mention that.

This is not a paddle that I would probably recommend for the masses.

I think there are a lot of paddles I would put ahead of this, right?

The turbos, the V-Soul powers, the loco.

There's just a lot of paddles, poppin' pink, probably the pickle poppers, poppin' pink,

but it's still in the niche category.

Just out of the box, it might play a little better.

But if you fall in the category of you want something ultra light and you also want it

to be a Gen 3, and it needs to have a thin grip, boom, this nails it.

But most of you watching this podcast, I wouldn't tell people like, guys, this is the next

boom stick or this is the next loco.

Look, it's not that.

This is for a niche group of people.

And you probably already knew you wanted these things.

These will core crush still.

It is a Gen 3.

So they will have durability issues like any other Gen 3.

It's not a foam paddle.

It's going to be more durable.

So just be aware of that.

Yep.

Agree.

No, two other things I want to talk about.

So a weird thing, I do not often experience this and I think you would probably agree with

me.

There are very rarely paddles where I go, oh, like I feel like the launch angle of this

is weird.

Like you almost never hear me say that word because I don't personally experience it

that often where I'm like, oh, man, like I really had to change how I swing on that.

The only two paddles that I could tell you in recent times that I did feel that way

were this and the gearbox GX2 power.

When I was playing with that, I was like, man, the way I'm swinging, the ball is not coming

off the way I'm expecting.

And this was also the same.

Sure.

With the Arillius, it felt like everything was so much lower than I was used to.

Like I had to intentionally aim drives higher.

I had to aim drops higher and put a little bit more in than I was used to.

I got used to it.

Kind of got over it.

But initially I was like, why is everything so low?

Like I have not hit balls this low in a really long time.

So whether that's my own mechanics or whatever launch angle could be different, it could be

like, I don't know.

There's a lot of things, but that was something I specifically noticed that I don't often

notice in a panel.

Sure.

And then the other thing I wanted to say, we already talked about this last week too,

since this is another Gen 3, since I've kind of been on the streak of hitting Gen 3s recently,

I'm understanding again more and more why people are having such a hard time making

the switch.

Like I think the Pickle Poppers Pop and Pink is a better ultra light paddle overall than

the Arillius.

I would probably recommend that to more people.

I think it's better out of the box and is still really light.

But when I played both of them side by side, I was actually for me having more fun with

the Arillius and I liked how the ball felt off it more.

Like when I was hitting drops with the Pop and Pink, I was just like, it's a little hard

for me to gauge how I'm hitting this.

So when I'm hearing people say that recently, like if you asked me two months ago, whenever

people would be like, oh man, like Gen 3, like I just feel the ball so much better, I'm

like, dude, you'll get over it.

And I do think if you spend enough time with it, you'll get over it and I think you'll

stop caring about it.

But when you're so used to it, I do understand why people are having a hard time.

I think that's true for anything though.

Yeah, I don't think that's necessarily just specific to foam versus polymer.

You could say that for two polymer paddles, one that's fiberglass and one that's all carbon.

If you're really used to all fiberglass, getting used to something hitting drops and drives

with an all carbon paddle, specifically in both polymer, it's going to take an adjustment,

takes a while, right?

I struggle to think of two specific paddles off the top of my head.

I just think the gap, generally, I agree with what you're saying, but I think the gap

is generally bigger with foam paddles versus Gen 3 than like two Gen 3s, generally speaking.

But you can always find outliers, right?

Just like I think we have Gen 4s full foam that are pure foam.

Yeah, I mean, same goes for complete core material.

There's going to be a bigger difference.

But I don't think it's so drastic that it's like, oh, I just could never get used to foam.

That's just not true.

Which is kind of too extreme.

I think how things have been perceived a lot of times.

I think a lot of people are just so used to it that they're so stubborn that they're

like, I'll just never be able to get used to foam, which I just don't believe to be

true.

I agree.

But I will say, I see the argument more.

I just think it takes time, right?

Because obviously I got used to it.

I'm sure if I pick up some of my favorite foam paddles and go back to them for a couple

of weeks, I'll be fine.

I'll be dialed in.

Won't have any issues.

But I just like, when you're comparing them side by side, I'm like, okay, the gap is

a little more obvious when you're doing it this way.

Yeah.

For sure.

I'm not the irrealist that's all I had to say about it.

We'll have a first impressions.

We'll say.

This week.

Franklin killed the design.

I like the white and slight gold touches.

I think it looks really nice.

I agree.

Not that that, you know, I know a lot of people don't really care about that, but props

them.

This looks good.

Looks good.

Yeah.

It matters.

Okay.

All right.

Moving on, we have the Thrive Ignite.

So this is a paddle that's upcoming.

I believe it's live on their website right now and it is estimated to ship like end of

April.

Currently, it's only a hybrid paddle.

This is their first full phone paddle that they have made.

We'll go over the specs and then we'll talk a little bit about it.

Price to $19.99.

discount code.

I'll obviously drop that.

Shape, hybrid, swing way between $111 to $114.

You can actually select that on the website.

That has kind of always been one of the things about Thrive as you can pick the swing

way.

First way at around $6.5.

The design to my knowledge is an EPP core, EVA, horseshoe ring, kind of like more like

a Gen 3 instead of a full floating ring.

And then it also has the Yola throat foam down here.

So kind of more of a Gen 3 style design, but with the foam center core.

And then it's three layers of carbon fiber and one layer fiberglass.

I actually don't know where in here, the fiberglass is if it's lower, if it's higher, but four

layers and then a one year warranty.

So those are the specs.

Let's go ahead and talk about it.

So you played it last night and then I got to play it some today.

So you've actually had a little bit more time out of the me.

Yeah.

What do you think?

Initial thoughts immediately.

First thing I noticed was compared to a lot of foam paddles.

It is very much so.

I would put it in the stiff and hollow category, but it really maximizes the stiff end of

things.

It's less hollow, very stiff, in my opinion.

So that was the first thing that stood out.

Because nowadays, I mean, there's been so many options in the foam categories that I think

it's starting to all feel very similar.

So it's kind of nice to see something outside of that, you know, norm for feel.

So that was the first thing I noticed.

Otherwise, power is pretty good.

Pop is a little bit lower than, you know, say the other higher tier power paddles, YouTube

Boomstick logo.

So pop lowered a little bit.

Yeah, I mean, it felt good.

I think it's just another foam paddle that changes the feel profile a little bit.

So if you are somebody who really enjoys stiffer feeling paddles and want to move into

the foam category, I think it's a good option.

It does only come in hybrid like you said at the moment.

So that will limit some people.

You know, swing rate ranges were pretty normal.

I think 112 to 114 for our units.

They weren't super heavy.

It feels pretty stable.

I played without weight.

So stock, no weight, didn't make any changes.

It felt pretty solid.

Quick in the hands.

I don't think there was anything necessarily.

I noticed that it did really poorly.

That stood out to me.

So I think it's a solid paddle.

Yeah.

I agree.

The first thing that stood out to me were the feel it feeling more stiff.

Actually, one of the first comments I made was that I felt a little, I felt a little

bit more connected than some of the foam paddles.

It felt a little easier to feel the ball to me than some of the others like when I was

sitting in the MPP turbo recently.

So that was kind of nice.

And then drives were really good.

And pop was not lacking.

I would not call this like, oh man, it has no pop.

But I feel like some of the more recent foam paddles I've hit, the MPP turbo, MPP turbo,

the Q2, LOCO, Boomstick, where it's just trying to max out everything.

It's just so hot.

This was kind of nice in a way where I was like, okay, I can hit the ball hard if I swing

a little bit more.

But then on softer stuff, I didn't feel like I had to baby it and be like, oh my gosh,

I'm going to like over swing is going to be like terrible, right?

So I think that was actually kind of appealing and I liked that about this.

Yeah.

Obviously that's more of a play style thing.

But it was nice that I was like, I have a soft game again.

That was kind of appealing.

That felt great at the kitchen.

Dinking was really nice.

It didn't feel like it was super easy to pop the ball up, versus playing with something

like a boomstick or a Q2 that's crazy poppy.

And you might have those air and misses.

Didn't really notice that as much with the ignite.

So that was nice.

It felt very comfortable at the kitchen.

Yeah.

So overall, I'd say like the initial impression to me was I wouldn't say did anything that

was so much better other than that you're getting something that probably a little bit

stiffer and also the higher power slightly lower pop could be appealing to some.

And it's also not in like, in a gregiously bad price range, right?

I'd say it's fine.

Oh, actually, I guess I should mention this.

I forgot to mention this because it's something we need to test.

But they claim they have a longer lasting texture on this.

So let me pull up their website just so I can actually quote this.

It feels just like peel ply to me, but we'll get to that in just a second.

Where is this on the website?

This said, we've also introduced our near new clear fusion grit, a durable surface application

bonded to the peel ply pop up to maximize spin potential while maintaining long lasting

performance.

So we'll see.

I'm like a little skeptical just based on how it was described and how little of a marketing

point it was on this right?

Like if you're a hex grit or you're a P1 or whatever else or six years diamond tough,

you're like shoving this in people's face because you're like, behold, long lasting

grit.

And just to have a little blurb that's like, yeah, we put this little clear top over it.

It's good.

Don't worry about it.

Like I just feel like, are you just, did you throw something in here to appeal, appease

people that you know want this or did you actually do something?

Yeah.

I mean, to R.I. and testing and just looking at it, I do not have high expectations of

it being a much more durable longer lasting grit.

Because then our microscope, some of the other grits, they look very different.

At least the ones that are performed well, that have performed well, yes.

And this just looked like rock carbon.

Yeah.

So we don't know for sure, but we're going to assess it.

See how well it does.

I guess that I don't have super high expectations, but we'll find out we'll get the numbers.

It could be totally wrong, but that's just my, that's my guess based on the history of

how other companies have kind of handled long lasting grit.

They usually make a much bigger deal out of it.

So we'll see and keep you guys posted.

But yeah, early impression is solid.

Just, it's just a crowded market with a lot of options, right?

Yeah.

So I think it's like if the feel and power attributes sounded appealing, then yeah,

it's for you, but you already got something awesome.

Stay with it.

You're fine.

You know, for sure.

That's kind of how I describe that.

Okay.

Kitchen.

Moving on to the kitchen.

So what do you want to do first?

Let's do, let's do the ball and then we have a little game we wanted to play.

Yeah.

We have a little marketing game where basically we found ridiculous marketing claims and we're

going to, we got a handful for each other.

We don't know what they are.

We're going to read it and we have to guess which brand or which paddle it is and see

if we're able to do it.

And we just found the most ridiculous marketing claims we could find.

Let's talk about the question of the week first though.

So how much does the ball matter to you?

Yep.

And what ball do you use?

So generally speaking, I would say I have never been that picky.

Like I mostly be fine, like you know, back in the day, Vulcan, Franklin, whatever way

back, you were probably never really a Durah snob.

No, I was never a Durah snob.

I was actually more against the Durah just because it was out of, you hit it once and

it was an egg.

Yeah.

It was kind of insane, especially in the summer.

So maybe less of a fan of that.

But overall, I was kind of like whatever I don't really care.

These days pretty much only use the lifetime ball, but that's also we play internments that

use lifetime ball.

So why change it?

And for paddle reviewing, I'd rather be consistent and be hitting a similar ball.

I think nowadays, I think majority of people, at least in our realm, are using lifetime

balls.

Yeah.

If you're a more competitive tournament player, naturally, you're just going to gravitate,

gravitate towards that.

And that's what you're going to use because that's what probably 80 ish percent of tournaments,

maybe not quite that many, but a lot of tournaments are using lifetime balls now.

So that side is pretty understandable.

You're just going to use lifetime ball.

But I know a lot of clubs and indoor facilities are either sponsored by different brands or

have deals and order different companies balls.

So like we have a few here that summer Franklin, summer pro S1 with South Kirk.

And so I think a lot of people are just naturally going, if you go to a certain club or a

member of a club, you're exposed to that ball.

You're just used to that ball.

And that's what you stick with.

And are you married to using that ball?

Or if you played an outside group or a different group, are you willing to use something else

or you're like, hey guys, I just want to use a pro S1 because that's what I use at the

club.

So I'm curious, leave comment.

Let me know.

I would like to see what the different percentages are of, you know, I know a lot of people

still just like Franklin.

Yeah.

Right?

A lot of people, I mean, especially down in Florida, Franklin started using one because

of the US open, I just remembered that.

Yep.

You need to do that.

US opens coming up and out in Florida.

Franklin's already a soft ball.

And it out there.

It is mush.

I might have to just take a boom stick with me.

Boomsticker Q2 because it'll be a mush ball and mush leather.

Like, yeah, definitely.

So I'm curious to know what everyone uses.

How, you know, stubborn are you about it?

I don't love the lifetime ball.

I know a lot of people do and think it's amazing, but I still use it because I play

PPAs.

So I just kind of suck it up and deal with it.

I'm definitely, I mean, at this point, I would say I'm probably more picky about it.

Like when I don't use a lifetime ball, one, I feel like I notice it a lot quicker.

Like sometimes I have a Vulcan, old Vulcan in our basket and I hit it and I like immediately

and like, oh, whoa, that was weird.

So I think I am a little bit more picky, but like, and I know you disagree with it.

But I found to me, like most complaints that I had with a ball have pretty much just

gone away.

Like, is there occasionally something bad?

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, was it the court service?

Did it hit something weird?

Like, as of recent, I have had multiple lifetime balls crack.

And last night, I haven't seen one.

That's crazy.

I've had at least three.

I've hear people say, oh, I've been using the same lifetime ball for three months.

Literally me.

Literally.

Literally have never seen in my games the same lifetime ball that long.

That's crazy.

So I mean, look, I do I think it can be more consistent than others.

Yes.

But I think it still has issues and I don't love it.

And then there was a different batch that came out that was just.

That one was horrible.

A gregiously bad and different.

I don't know what happened with there.

I'm not going to, you know, put too much damage on it because of that because that was,

you know, kind of a one-off case.

That was bad.

But I also, my big thing, probably more so with the ball is the color of it.

Yeah.

That I understand.

I thought that was going to be changed.

You know, we heard that they were going to be tweaking and adjusting that.

It's just such a muddy, dark green that in certain facilities and even outside, it is so

difficult to see that ball.

And look, I have 2020 vision.

My eyes are perfect and I struggle to find that ball sometimes.

So I don't like the color.

Also personally just always enjoyed the feel of other balls off the face of the paddle.

More stiff firm like Duraz or Vulcans had a much clicky feel.

And I liked that a lot more.

I think lifetime balls are really mushy, maybe not mushy, but they're softer and rubbery.

Geez, that's a, that's not a rubbery.

Rubbery were, oh my God.

It's just tough.

And I know everyone flames us in the comments for mispronouncing things or something that's

not a word.

Okay.

Y'all grammar snobs can get out of here.

All right.

But yeah, I just, I'm not a huge fan of the response off the face.

Let's say that.

So, but again, I know it's been a beloved ball across the industry.

So I know I'm an outlier.

I'm a minority.

One of the things to me that like, I mean, I lose the balls.

Well, I personally have not had one of mine crack and I just lose them.

Like my basket is getting smaller because I just, well, sometimes I think people actually

take my ball, which, you know, whatever.

But like, I lose them more than I've had an issue with the ball.

Like, I've had my batch for just about a year now, I think.

And like, I mean, we're still drilling with them all the time.

Like, I don't know, it's crazy.

To me, I've had like, pretty much nothing but good things to say other than like, I think

if they could have, and this is, you know, I'm not going to say impossible, but probably

difficult, if they could just have the lifetime ball where it is and tone the power down a

bit.

I think one of, you know, the complaints, complaints or just changes across the industry

is that games got faster, hotter paddles, hotter ball, boom.

That's a combo for a lot of things.

If they could just lower that down a little bit, I feel like that would be, that's my only

like gripe with the ball, but I've just gotten used to it.

Sure.

I just think if I went backwards again, I'd be like, oh my gosh, wow, that ball was really

fast, you know, because last year when I switched, I was like, holy cow, how do I use this

thing?

Yeah.

Like I was using a boom stick and when we all switched, I was like, I don't know how

to use this thing anymore, you know, right?

So anyways, yeah, let us know down in the comments what you think.

I'm curious, but let's play this game.

All right.

You hit me with one first.

Yeah, I'll hit you with one.

We're, let's see.

We'll see how many we get through.

We've got five.

Yeah, it might take a little while.

So all right.

First one is, and every time, because a lot of these marketing terminologies, they put

the name of the paddle in there.

So I just exchange that for this paddle.

Yes.

So power and energy return, the design allows the ball to spring off the paddle more efficiently

giving extra pop and speed without requiring more effort from the player.

Control and dwell time.

The core is slightly softer in certain areas, which increases dwell time.

The time the ball stays on the, on the paddle, allowing for better spin and placement, durability

and consistency.

One three cores maintain their performance longer than earlier cores, resisting compression

and keeping the paddle's sweet spot.

That might be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

They're saying that about a Gen 3 paddle.

Yep.

What the?

I did.

I don't even know.

I, this one might be kind of difficult.

It's a little bit more.

So I did a few that are kind of mainstream companies, more mainstream and some that are

a little bit more smaller niche companies.

I'd be genuinely shocked if you get this.

Oh, man.

Well, I mean, at least I know it's a Gen 3 paddle.

There wasn't any like crazy, like naming scheme for any like technology or, you know, terminology

but I just want to know who it is.

This is a bit of a wild.

I just want to know who I'm going to flame for saying last longer than some other cores.

I'm looking at the wall, thinking who it's going to be.

It's not on the wall.

I'll tell you that.

Oh, okay.

So it's niche niche.

It's pretty niche.

You know of it.

You haven't thought of this company in a while though.

This I started off with a pretty difficult one.

Should have started off easy.

That's how I was going to do it for you.

I should have given you a softball.

Oh, gosh.

Okay.

I'm now just trying to think of paddles I haven't seen in a long time.

Ah, man.

Okay.

Who has it?

I definitely gave you probably the most difficult one to start things off.

Who has a Gen 3 and it's not on the wall.

That's going to be so hard.

I think I'll tell you this.

The last time you thought of this company, it was a Gen 2.

So this is a while ago.

Did the Gen 3 come out this year or last year?

Probably last year.

I'd have to look.

I don't know the exact date.

I don't even have a guess.

Who is it?

Nexus.

Nexus.

Logan, what the...

Okay.

I wouldn't have got that.

That was a pretty difficult one.

I definitely thought.

I was, man.

I don't know if mine were that hard.

I'll start.

I'm going to try and start.

The problem is hard.

Okay.

I'm going to start off with a softball.

Okay.

Okay.

Next generation power paddle featuring core reactor with dynamic power flex technology.

Wait, hang on.

That's hilarious.

I just realized.

That's really funny.

This is...

Well, they said dynamic power flex instead of power flex core.

But both these companies have trademarked for the word power flex.

So it's not wrangling.

Yeah.

Next generation power paddle featuring core reactor with dynamic power flex technology

and an industry first control joint technology.

I feel like you're not getting...

Is this...

Honolulu?

The NF?

Or no.

Just thinking joint like the notch foam.

Oh, maybe that's...

You might be in the ballpark.

Adidas.

No.

No, it's not Adidas.

You were much closer before.

Really?

No.

No.

I'm wrong.

What?

Okay.

Maybe I...

Maybe I will...

We will do this where you just have to get the brand because actually now that I'm thinking

about some of mine, I literally think there's zero chance you will get the models.

Really?

So we'll just go brand.

So you got it with Honolulu.

Okay.

It was Honolulu.

But it wasn't the end.

It was the CR.

The CRSCR per core reactor.

See, now I think you're going to be a lot better at this than I am because you probably

read...

I never go through it.

That's why I figured you...

I pick that because most people probably who like read all that, but I know you don't

read that.

Yeah, I don't ever read these.

So I...

Honestly, if I get any, I'm happy with saying, that's a win in my book.

I'm just going to let you know right now that one was the easiest one by far.

So I'm just going to let you know now that it gets really hard.

This might be a softball.

Okay.

There's a lot here.

So we'll see how much I end up going through.

I think this one might be a bit of a softball.

This Pickleball paddle...

This Pickleball paddle delivers powerful performance for competitive players.

It's elongated shape and extended 5.8-inch handle, increases leverage and paddle head speed,

making it especially effective for powerful drives and two-handed backhands.

With RPM super spin technology, you'll generate heavy topspin and sharp slices to keep your

opponents under consistent pressure.

This MAC, SMAC, dampening technology.

That's a bad lot.

Dang it.

You knew.

That's a bad lot.

Shutes.

Yeah.

They had some pretty wild terminology in here.

Like they did.

Yeah, that one.

They had some pretty crazy stuff in there.

But yeah, immediately you knew it was a bad lot.

I had another great.

But do you know the...

Oh, wait.

Yeah.

Do you know the specific model paddle that this is coming from?

Is it the monster?

Yeah.

Okay.

Too good.

Too good.

Okay.

We'll see.

We'll try this one.

Drive Pro Polymer Core, our most advanced core yet, engineered for massive energy return

and extended ball contact, giving you both explosive drives and precision control.

That is also just...

You got to love that from every company.

It's also this explosive power.

But you could hit a dime if you wanted to do the max control.

Increased dwell time lets you load more spin and deliver more powerful shots with less

effort.

So it's a Gen 3.

Polymer Core.

Hmm.

I'm realizing how well.

I don't know for sure that I would have got this if someone guessed it, but I would have

had a guess just knowing something.

I just am more familiar with the marketing.

You are definitely more familiar.

Is it...

I'll read one more marketing thing to see if it helps.

I don't know if it will.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ProFlex waiting.

Any part of spin core technology, it strategically places mass to enhance power,

solidity and spin, optimized for explosive acceleration and total control.

I did nothing for me.

I have no clue.

I'm just gonna say, is it thrive?

No.

No.

Dude, I...

I'm lost.

I got nothing.

It's engaged.

Engage?

Yep.

For which paddle?

Alpha Pro Power, I think the Gen 3.

I believe it was the Gen 3.

I had the only thing coming up in my mind, I think gauges is that foam paddle I was hitting.

Sure.

Interesting.

Okay.

Okay.

Hit me with one.

Gotcha.

This one might be another softball that you might get right away just because I wanted

to find companies that you haven't looked at recently, but then again, like the first

one was so obscure that you just would have no chance.

So you might get this right away.

Unmatched spin and control from rock carbon face.

Experience a powerful and controlled response from our gritty T700 rock carbon face that

delivers unmatched spin during play.

Consistent shot enhanced by spin optimized polypropylene honeycomb core internal structure.

This paddle features an optimized hexa core specifically engineered for constructed

or and constructed to provide precise shot consistency demanded by the best of the

best.

Okay.

Here we go.

There's a little bit more.

Actually, do you have any guesses so far?

No.

Okay.

The hexa core part, I feel like should be.

I feel like I have heard that before.

Okay.

I feel like I know I've read that somewhere.

I feel like I know this.

But this is one that I was like, I think you probably have read this before.

Hmm, something that's a more ridiculous marketing term.

Who would be that?

Don't feel like it's on the wall.

I'll say I'll give you a hint.

This is a paddle that is UP approved.

Okay.

It's been used in pro play.

And the players who use it swore by it.

Okay.

So, my first thought was going to be warping point just because I don't know them that

well, but I could see where maybe the marketing would be a little bit more ridiculous.

Okay.

But I don't know that I've heard any pros swear by it like.

And I was just not going to just pros, but people who use it pro time.

And who else?

Yeah.

Hang on.

Let me, I'll do this.

I'm just going to pull like, okay, think specifically about the spin part.

Players who use this paddle, all they talk about is the spin or the grit.

It's like the biggest talking point of this panel.

Okay.

Well, it's definitely not carbon.

I'm just talking about the spin and grit is like literally the only thing people mentioned

when they talk about this panel.

And people love it.

I'm not going to say it because I'm only, oh, is it, is it products are?

Oh, got it.

Got it.

Got it.

Yeah, that's, okay, that's a good one.

That's a good one.

Okay.

A little bit more mainstream.

Okay.

I don't think you're going to, you might, I'm not going to say it.

Okay.

No, because I'm going to read one and then I'll say why I can't do the last one.

Okay.

Okay.

If you just get the brand, I'll be impressed.

Crafted with Torre T700 raw carbon fiber.

This paddle generates maximum paddle spin for superior shot placement.

While we haven't heard that once yet.

Every paddle just, that is, that's crazy.

The high density core ensures long lasting durability, resisting compression, even during

intense play.

For players looking to fine tune their paddles balance, shock, buster and end cap weights

allow customization, helping you achieve the perfect blend of power and control.

Oh, wait, the end cap thing.

There's a couple of companies.

There's only a few companies that like, did that, right?

So it, it, wait a second.

But is it a foam paddle?

No, just get the company.

I know.

You're never going to guess the paddle model.

I promise.

I don't even know if you know this exists.

What?

Have I hit it before?

I don't think so.

Shoot.

Is it...

Gamma?

It is gamma.

BANG!

I knew it.

Is that air-bender 22 millimeter?

Yeah, I did hit that.

I don't know if we have the 22 millimeter.

Maybe it's not that one.

No, I think we have a 16.

We had like a 16, 13 and a 10.

Okay.

That must have been the 16.

Because I just remember the, the shock buster.

Yes.

That's what I was like, and the end cap.

Yeah.

Because the only other company, there was two, there's one

really small company.

And then gamma was the only other one I knew that did the,

the end cap thing.

Okay.

That was good.

You want me to jump to...

Chair, hey, we won't.

All right, here we go.

I think, I think you're going to get this one right away.

I, because this is a, I won't say anything.

Okay.

Don't let the 13 millimeter thickness fool you.

This paddle redefines control.

Haven't heard that one yet.

This cork dwell pads work with the Torre carbon surface

to spread impact evenly, adding a level of forgiveness,

usually reserved for its much thicker paddles.

There's the flickfalken.

And there was the cork pad.

The cork pad.

Yeah, the cork pad.

That's why I was like, I think you're going to get this

right away.

Okay.

Okay.

The reason I was not going to do well, maybe hang on.

I will maybe try, hang on.

I got a, I got a check.

Hang on.

I'm going to copy this word, please.

Hello, technology.

Oh my gosh.

Every time the copy thing comes up, it goes away.

Oh my gosh, every time.

Okay.

I'm going to let it, okay.

There we go.

Thank you, word.

I had looked up how to pronounce this earlier,

and then I forgot how to pronounce.

How to pronounce.