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Hello, welcome back to the Press UTV Pack S-Pete. I'm Joy to Robinson.

I'm Rob Mahoney.

And we are launching a brand new TV series for us, the two of us to cover.

But one that has been around for many, many, many, many years, but somehow only on its third

and final season, it's euphoria season three. How are you feeling, Rob?

Do you think people have heard of this show?

No, no, no. There's a couple of folks on it that people might have heard of. What do you think?

I could see that. I could see a little bit of splash here and there. I mean,

yeah, anytime you get Sharon Stone to appear on television, it's going to bring some eyeballs.

I'm glad that she can drag up and class up the joint.

Okay, so we're here to talk about euphoria season three episode one, right and directed by Sam

Levinson and we should say the credits in the, in this sort of like email that HBO sent us,

it's listed like this, created, written, directed and executive produced by Sam Levinson the whole

season. So that is we're in for 11th-sen experience this year. Rob Mahoney as of a few days ago had

not seen any of euphoria. And now he has seen two whole seasons plus an episode of euphoria.

So we're going to get into sort of Rob's, let's like refresh ourselves on euphoria before we dig into

the episode of something we plan to do today. Rob, are you well after spending that much time

in the euphoria world? Feel super great, super great about humanity, about the generations to come.

Kids are all right, right? The kids are right. My current mental state, absolutely wonderful.

I'm operating at the peak of my powers. Let me just say quickly before we didn't sort of like

is Rob okay? Just let's just check in every pod that way. I think it would be helpful.

We love to do therapy on the spot, but like just a bigger picture sort of some of the things we

know about this season, this final season of euphoria. You know, Zendaya has said like that quote-unquote

closure is coming that this is, you know, she feels this is definitely the final season of euphoria.

I think for at the very, very least she is done, Sydney Sweeney is probably done, Jacob

Alority is probably done, etc, etc. And so. Well, Joe, whoever is responsible for scheduling all

these actors is done. They're like, I simply cannot manage this spreadsheet anymore.

So if you for a war to continue after this season, it would be something else entirely. And I just

don't think it's going to, but like never say never when, you know, your Warner Brothers and you

have a hit on your hand. This season as a whole was dedicated to the actor Angus Cloud who died

from an overdose in 2023. He played Fesco. I loved him on the show. I was really devastated

that he died. He died of an overdose and so Sam Levinson in sort of like his letter that he sent out

with screeners of this episode talked about how, how rocked he was by Angus's death and also that

this season is centered around the third step of recovery, which is moving from recognizing a higher

power, which is step two, to actively trusting that power with your life and decision. So we get,

you know, active conversation with Rue talking in this episode with Ali or with Lexi or with

this family that she meets in Texas about the idea of faith. I'm going to, I have some real strong

thoughts on which recording in the Bible she has decided to listen to. But there's a big like

Jesus save sign on the on the series art. So this is like, this is what we're grappling with

this season. It's a season of faith. And I think Sam, I was always like, I never necessarily thought

that Rue's story was going to end well. Just because she's this avatar for Sam Levinson's

self-insert character for Sam Levinson's own addiction. And he seems to have a very dim view of

the possibility of recovery and all this sort of stuff like that. So I always thought that Rue's

story would end badly. But it's, he, you know, he has given indications that he wants something

like a little lighter and a little more hopeful for his characters and where he is now making

this season. So I don't know that we're headed for devastation. We might be headed for something

unexpectedly light for you for you. One one can only hope. I think it does speak to where

Sam Levinson is now clearly. But also I think where a lot of people are now where the environment

socio culturally, politically, just like out in the world that you for you have first dropped into

entirely different from the world that inhabits now. And so that doesn't mean the show has to transform

or has to change. But in this premiere, I mean, I would say Joe, it feels tangible. The shift

towards even a version of Rue that could believe in something like hope that could reach for something

like organic actual faith. That is a wildly different premise for this show. So this show first

started airing in 2019, which is really wild to contemplate. And then this season takes place.

We get a helpful stamp on a passport that says it's May 2024. Sharon Stone is talking about the

election. I am worried about how much the show wants to engage with the the past presidential election.

But tune in to find out. We'll see. Rob, how was your experience, Benjing Euphoria? And, and was it

what you expected? I mean, I'm sure you had a lot of preconceived notions about what Euphoria

would be. What was your experience watching it? I had contrary to the subject matter a great time

watching this show. It was a surprise no one to hear who is familiar with it. It's just like

incredibly well-made television in a lot of different ways the performances are what they are.

And I would say season one, especially delivered on exactly what I thought this show was going to be

with the style with those performances with the plot lines that are giving parents nightmares.

That was Euphoria as it was described on the tin. Yeah. Went through it, really enjoyed it.

Season two, I don't know what season two is. It's a lot of things. And I feel like

the show got really, really indulgent to the point where it is not just, I mean, Joe, the musical

numbers. I mean, deal, laborately staged musical numbers that are strewn throughout the season.

The like, sorry, I love them. Okay, we're going to have to negotiate. There's there's a lot.

Some of them work for me better than others. And the family guy,

slash scrubs style, like fantasy, a sides that are happening constantly with the show. It's just

like a very strange experience in season two that I was interested in. I appreciate, and I'm

going to say this like most charitable it's ambition. But I think season two is just a whole mess.

Season two is very messy. What did you think of like the two-part finale, the play that sort of

bleeds into reality back into theater, Lexi's play? I like a lot of parts of it. You know, the

memeable elements, the, you know, homo erotic gym. Yeah. Like there's a lot that really,

really works. And yet it's just like, it is dripping with a kind of theater kid energy that for

me is a little bit overwhelming. And so to end two seasons in that kind of fashion, and I can

only imagine for the people who are along for the right and real time, to now have to wait with

that as the lingering impression of what euphoria is and was, I don't think it's the best finale.

I think it's a little strange. I think the meta aspects of season two were among like the least

successful for me. And so it's nice to have the in jokes and the bits, but it just got to be a bit

much. As a theater kid myself, I loved the two-part finale. Season two is hugely messy. I remain to

this day completely confused as to what is happening with Cassie storyline, Sydney Sweeney's entire,

like every single Sydney Sweeney choice in that season two confuses and perturbs me.

Well, let's talk about that. Is it the Sydney Sweeney choices or is it the Cassie as written choices?

Both. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I can't, I can't leave this entirely on Sydney Sweeney,

but like, like, because I, what I have to imagine, what I have to believe is true, is that she gave

some fairly normal takes and then Sam was like, now do it, like, you've lost every marble in your

head, you know, and you're just like screaming and screeching and crying the entire season.

Well, that was just for his personal files. What did they do for the show?

Yeah, great question, great question. His weird thing with Sydney Sweeney remains, you know,

to this very episode, you know, I understand it's the entire world's strange thing with Sydney

Sweeney, but like Sam Levenson is patient zero for this particular phenomena. And like,

it's the part of Euphoria that like, excuse me out the most is, is everything Cassie,

personally, but yeah, I mean, it's, the show is very leery of Sydney Sweeney at basically all

times, including in the season three premiere. I'm fine with that as like part of the texture of

the show. And it's also like baked into the character, right? Her appeal and what that does to her

psychologically and how she uses it out in the world to advantage or not. All of that's fine.

I think part of the problem with season two and one of my worries about season three is I'm not

sure that Cassie, the character holds up to the level of importance that she has in this show.

And it felt like one of those things in watching it. I would need to like double check the timeline

of Sydney's own pop, but it felt like Sydney Sweeney is a huge star and we need to use her more.

I just had a problem where like Cassie was always the fifth or sixth most interesting storyline

in what was going on. And she was always very prominently placed in season two.

I really, I think that's true. We're really overindexed on Cassie in season two at the expense of

a character like Kat who I really loved in her whole story in season one. Yeah. She got completely

like sideline and frankly, I think character assassinated in season two, which is why Barbie

Fierre, Fierre was like, bye, I'm done like, for us to leave Euphoria was just sort of like Barbie,

was like, I'm out, I'm done. I have major beef with Sam Levinson. I'm out.

Um, justice for Kat, you know, better stream in peace. Exactly. Um, Kat's like the Kat's

stuff in season one was so good. And then Maddie gets sideline a lot in in season two for,

you know, Cassie taking up a lot of oxygen in the room. Ru remains of course like the main character

of the show and the show doesn't lose focus on that because then day is also a massive star.

So it's not like Jacob, Alority and Sydney Sweeney's rise to fame like a completely overshadowed

day because that can't happen. But I do think like jewels, um, also, you know, like Hunter Schaefer's

character also gets like a bit sideline for Cassie just taking up a lot of energy in the room.

I was curious to what you thought about the visual style. They, you know,

once again, I think the show is slightly trying to re and definitely trying to reinvent itself in

season three. And we'll talk about, uh, the why and the how and the where and the visuals of it. But

the very distinctive experimental visual style. And especially I think in season two,

again, like Sam Levinson a bit high on his own supply in season two and it's part of why they,

like they had to like the behind the scenes story of how they made season two and basically like shot

kind of a whole season then just like remade it is, you know, one like someday someone needs to

write a full book about everything that happened behind the scenes on Euphoria. But you know,

they shot it on, they had like Kodak, you know, make this film stock that wasn't even,

didn't even exist anymore so they could shoot season two on this film stock. Um, you've just got

these like really cool visual elements like in the first episode of season two at the party scene

these like spotlight effects. Oh yeah. Where the lights go out of people and it happens a couple

times throughout the season. Um, so what do you think like, you know, and and in season one,

that sort of like glittery eye makeup Euphoria sort of Instagram, full of residents,

sort of visual became so iconic. Uh, how do the visuals work for you?

I mean, wonderfully. I think in particular that intersection of the makeup styling and the cinematography,

like they're almost inextricable to me in terms of the visual language of the show. And,

you know, the white eyeliner, all of those colors, it's really, really striking and really

something to behold. It's also like, you know, probably heavily cribbed from Petra Collins

in her work. So it's like, there's, there's that's a whole other thing. You can like, I think you

take the probably out of there and you can like, remove heavily cribbed and just say like,

blatantly stolen from absolutely. Let's call it what it is. Um, but all of that said, I think,

I think euphoria seasons one and two not to get too deep into the weeds are just like one of the best

lit things I've ever seen on TV. It is those spotlight effects. It's the contrast. All that stuff

really, really worked for me. And it's a huge part of the reason why even if you're not like a

completely bought in on one particular story or one particular character or one particular

elaborate musical number, there's just always something on screen that is fascinating to watch.

And it really pulls you in at the same time. The filmmaking on the show can be a little masturbatory.

For sure. The whole experience is masturbatory, you know, but you know, like there are worse

things in the world than do what feels good, I guess. Um, I wanted to ask you about some day.

I was talking to a pal, I'm buying the other day, uh, who, you know, does a job adjacent to our job.

And her hot take was she does not think Sunday is a very good actress. And, you know, she was sort of

listing, you know, in in-do in challengers in this, that and the other thing. I don't agree, but

she was like making your case. And I was like, well, have you seen euphoria? And she said no. And I was

like, I actually think Sunday is operating on a completely different stratosphere inside of euphoria.

Like I think she's good in these other good to sometimes great in these other things, but I think

what she does as Rue in euphoria is just like a completely on a different planet altogether.

I think she is, I personally think she's extraordinary. She want a COVID-e me, uh, for this, this role.

Um, is that like a daytime? That means the whole separate award ceremony. I just have memories

of the COVID Oscars and the, you know, like she accepted over Zoom, you know what I mean? Like

that's a strong memory that I'm in a gown, but like over Zoom. I think she's just extraordinary.

I think like Rue has to be Rue is such a hard character to root for. And you know, the show lampshades

that a few times when she just says it in the voiceover of, you know, especially in, and I think

season two, the slideshow that they run back in season two. She talks about it directly, but,

you know, I've talked about this like when I talk about something like Marty Supreme or Uncut

Gems, the like the sort of like, safty verse where it's just like when I watch a character make

bad decisions again and again and again and again. I have such a hard time hanging with them.

That's not the case with Rue. I am like always with her. She's so charming, so emotionally raw.

So, you know, like even in, in the episode and season two where it's basically just like her running

around a desperate, which is basically a safty movie all of the time. Yeah, exactly. But I didn't have

any of the same like feelings that I usually have with those kinds of characters and those kinds of

plots. And I just think that I just don't think you can underestimate how important Zendaya's

performance inside of this show is. And I like, I don't think I'm saying anything revolutionary to

say, Zendaya's great. She's a huge star. But I just, I think what she does here is absolutely

magical. What do you think? She's really, really special as Rue. Yeah. And I'm sorry to say your

friend is extremely wrong. But if you haven't seen you for it and I hadn't too, I kind of got

glimpses of it. And I think if you've seen some of those other properties you mentioned,

challenges in particular, one of my favorites, you see like versions of what goes into Rue.

But Rue is such a complete picture of everything that makes Zendaya like so effective as a performer.

I think this is like one of the signature performances of this era of TV. Like I think it's

that good. It's that stand out. Just the image of Rue riding around her neighborhood on her bike

feels like instant iconography for me. It's like one of those instant recall things when I think about

what you can do with these characters, what you can do with this story. For some reason,

it's just going to be like painted in my head. And I think part of the reason why Rue works as

well as she does as well as you explained as far as what Zendaya is bringing to that character.

Like she is so withdrawn. But Zendaya is really great at like portraying people who have like

hyperactive brains. And like you can see the gears turning. You can see like this buzzing energy

in her head. And to have someone who's like that shut down and also that like hyperactive mentally,

you just want to like get to know her better. And you want to spend time with that character. And

and for all of those bad decisions, you really want her to be okay. And I think the mental gymnastics

the show puts you in where it's like, man, eyes of you are with love for Rue the character to stop

doing drugs. At the same time, I would also love jewels to not find out that she's doing drugs.

Because I don't want them to have a huge fallout. And it's it really puts you in so many interesting

places. And she's the reason why all of that juggling works. There's this look she gives to camera

in season two. When Dominic Fikes characters like you wanted drugs or like I think we should do

drugs. And she gives this like charming like smirk to camera look that I remember at the time.

Just like complete. I was just sort of like she's about to make a terrible decision that we don't

want this character to make. And then you're just sort of like, but she lets you in on it.

Should we do it? And it's just like it's so it's so delightful. And she's like her biking around

her neighborhood. There's something about, you know, the converse, the her dad's maroon hoodie,

the tangle of hair. There's like, there's visual iconography to this character. And then there's

just like a fully rounded person inside of these visual elements. So I agree with you like

there are certain TV characters where someone could just sort of like show you a little bit of

them. And you're like, Oh, that's rude. Like that's that's who that is. And I really agree.

Putting his end day to the side though. And we've already talked about Sydney Sweeney, the

city Sweeney at all. Who was your MVP of the first two seasons if not today?

Joseph the easiest call is Maddie. It's Maddie. It's Maddie. I'm a I'm a Maddie's boy

at the end of the day. I think it's just why I live. I think it's one of those things where there

are so many versions of this kind of character that are a little too mean girl or like a little

too queen bee. And there are times where it the show fains that Maddie could be that kind of person.

And then always pulls back or always swarves always takes her into a different direction.

I want to be very clear that Maddie is like probably a complete psycho, but also probably the smartest

and most perceptive character on this show and the way she has everyone like dead to rights

at all times. I'm just like fully in the tank. And I'm very upset whenever she gets put to the side.

Dev, one of our great producers on the show, we were talking before you had done your watch. We

were talking about like the people who broke out. And we were agreeing that Alexa Demi who plays

Maddie is like, I don't know why she hasn't hit what happened. How is she not a massive star?

I don't really know. PrestigeTV is Spotify.com if you have some theories on this, but like

I it's not too late for the world to catch up and make Alexa Demi. She should be I think on the level

of the Allorities and Sweeney's and Zendaya's and the Hunter Shaper of yes.

For me, I just think if the moment when Maddie is running up on stage to beat Cassie's ass and

in the process throws off her heels, wasn't going to make her a star. I don't know what else I can

show you. That's really it for me. There's a moment when the whole confrontation happens, when

like Ru out's Cassie at her house and Maddie's there. And she gets up on Cassie and she

collects her nails in her in a way that I'm just like, I can literally see Maddie just like

splitting her throat open. I am like terrified of her. I love her. How did you feel about your

pal, your personal friend, Mika Kelly showing up to be party Maddie's storyline in season two?

Wonderful. What a pleasant surprise. And I got to say as somebody who's well versed in the

Friday night lights experience, I mean, she's she's doing great now. And I thought this was better

than anything we ever got from Mink on FNL. I agree. I agree. For me, I think, I think Coleman

Domingo, and this is also, you know, Coleman Domingo had been on Fear the Walking Dead and had had a

long career before this. But this is, you know, one in Emmy for this. This is really the thing that

like launched him into another level. And I think even though he is an infrequent appearance on

the show, I think he lends something so soulful and poetic to it. There's also something euphoria

is such a tough hang sometimes that for me, it really matters that there are these moments of

sweetness. So like, I'll eat really trying with Rue or coming over and and cooking dinner with

a family and enlisting Gia to help and all that sort of like that like that really matters.

The Lexian Fez connection in season two really matters to me. The I love Austin Abrams, the Ethan

cat stuff in season one like that there's like something kind of like something sweet and pure

happening inside of all of this. I feel matters and isn't necessary. It doesn't have to go well.

It didn't go well with Lexian Fez, but that like people are trying or right. Yeah, fair enough.

That's part of the show. And I'm very curious to see how they manage that type of stuff. If this

is going to be a more hopeful season three, a question I posed, you know, I sent you over some

questions beforehand. I don't know if you have a great answer to this. Are the kids all right, Rob?

Any any big picture of thoughts on this? Obviously not. Like they've got suitcases full of drugs.

Like what are they supposed to be doing? Everyone is threatening everyone else with child pornography

charges. This is a wild show. Do you think it matters? Like I was thinking about, you know, like so much

of euphoria's edge in the first two seasons was like, okay, people are going to be doing like

sexual, you know, drugs, like all this sort of stuff. And they're in high school. They're underage.

The fact that we're now I'm not saying I would like to go back to the underage era, but do you

think euphoria is like now that we're telling we're telling stories with like, you know, we've in

the season three premiere, we've got Cassie on her only fans journey or whatever the case may be,

but like these are early 20-somethings. Like does euphoria need that forbidden edge of these kids

are underage? Or are you like, I don't need it, I'm fine. Thank you so much. I don't know

that it needs that forbidden edge, but I do feel like I really enjoyed the high school drama.

Parts of euphoria. And so I'm wondering how I'm going to be missing that. I'm wondering how much

these characters are going to be interacting. Like is this going to be brew on her journey,

jewels who we don't even see in this season three premiere, you know, like obviously Cassie and

Nader doing their thing, but are people mostly siloed off? I would hope we get some intersections

at some point. And that's where high school is just like an easy forum, right? Like when you need

to get everyone together, you can do it at a at a prom at a bathroom, whatever. And I hope there

are like mechanisms to do that because I love seeing these actors bounce off each other.

Yeah, we do at least have like, Rue stays with Lexi, Lexi and Maddie work in industries that are

very closely connected. We'll see how Cassie ties back into all of that. And yeah,

the jewels is not even here. But there's also people missing, you know, like cats not going to be here

because Angus passed away, Fez is not in the show though alive and in prison in this universe.

But you know, the character's not going to be able to show up. Yeah, it did mean something to me

just that like he and Lexi still have a relationship, even if she's not calling him as much as

either. She's not calling him at all. I don't know. I guess, you know, but even even that there's

a possibility, uh, warm is my heart to a very small requisite euphoria degree. Um, I am really curious,

you know, I liked this for a set. So we'll talk about it. Of course, in a second, honestly, we

will get to the first episode of season three. But um, but yeah, we're not in high school anymore.

Cats not here, Fez isn't here. Um, a lot of like, you know, Mallorna, we're talking about this a

lot when we were doing our, we're doing our buffy season four coverage when you move out of high

school into college or with Friday night lights, when you move characters out of the high school

setting or whatever the case may be. Yeah, those organic like we're all hanging out in the library

moments are harder to come by. The parents, you know, like, um, you know, Eric Dane, who is in this season

but has since passed away, but he will be in this season. Pala Marshall is listed for this season

who plays Nate's mom. Yeah. A lot of you, Bach, who I think is saying, right. Standing on this show.

Honestly, made a stealth run in MVP. I mean, season two is very much her season.

Queen of the heavy four. Queen of the basket full of knives. Like, I love sushi. Queen of the,

Queen of the reaction shots in the audience of the play, you know, just like, I'm in a great time.

But yeah, a lot of key characters are gone. Um, we'll have new, you know, Sharon Stonis here,

as you mentioned, we'll have some new additions cast. But I'm very curious like how much this

show still feels like euphoria or does all it need is like, Rue and Zendaya's voice over to make

it feel like euphoria. We'll, we'll find out together. It does feel early on. Like, this is going to

be kind of a soft reboot. And I'm open to that. And I'm open to where these characters can go.

And so long as you have some of these attachments. And as you said, Rue is kind of a driving force of

it. I think there's a lot of cool and interesting stuff euphoria can do. But I suspect it's going to

feel and look very different from what we know. Final to retrospective questions for you before

we get into this premiere. Um, was there a standout episode for you of your, of your rewatch?

I think it's definitely the one crazy night intervention episode that you described. Like,

that feels like a cut above almost everything else that happens in euphoria, which is already,

as we've said, like quite a good show. But when I think of euphoria, I think what I'm going to

think of most is the carnival in season one. That feels like the most distilled version of what

the show was. And we're going to see what it becomes. But like, that, that was a version of the

show that really, really clicked for me. They've told a lot of stories about how delicious that

shoot was like, it was like, you know, had to like build this whole thing. It took so long.

Zanad had to hit the inhaler a lot because there was a lot of dust around. But like, when you watch

that episode, it is such a feat because it's like an episode of the pit. Like you're just following

one storyline. And you know, so you have to like, there's one shot where I'm like, Jacob

Alority was just standing there on his cue, having to wait until the camera got to him and then it's

just go. You know, but it's just like a really long like sweep through the entire carnival. Not even

a cheat like seemed one or just like really were moving around. I like, that was just like a

meticulously choreographed again. Like Sam Levinson is such a fascinating character because like,

I'm so grossed out by so many things that he does. And then I cannot deny that a lot of what he

accomplishes is incredibly impressive. So, you know, both of these things can be true. He's got a lot

of juice in terms of the way he puts this stuff together. Does he also need people in his life who

will tell him no for many reasons? I suspect so. The idol tells us yes. Okay. Last but not least,

what was the moment that became a meme that hit the hardest during your watch?

Honestly, this one is also very easy for me. Yeah. It's also Maddie centric. It's all of the girls

convening in the bathroom trying to figure out why Cassie is dressed up like she's no coloma.

Yeah. And the whole sequence is wonderful. I had already seen it going into the show. I knew what

I was getting in for. It was even better in context. And the moment for me, they really seals it.

Is the bitch you better be joking? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Maddie is just on another level

consistently on like a line for line basis. And even in season two when she's like barely in it,

she's so great. My favorite moment from that scene is when someone was like,

has everyone got me read Oklahoma? Don't read Oklahoma.

Not like over home. Play read. All right. So speaking of Oklahoma and the West,

let's go into season three episode one of Euphoria. The Western vibe of the opening,

including like the Whipcrack sound on the title card and the music. Remind of me a lot,

so remind of me a lot of poker face. I don't know if it's just like the yellow font of the card.

But like more, I think it was like the pastiche of a genre that we're engaging with,

something that we enjoyed in our coverage of poker face is just like Ryan Johnson is just like,

I'm making this kind of movie in this episode of poker face. To be fair, same 11th set is done

that before the season two opener is very much like a stylized like 70s sort of exploitation crime.

Vibe, but this opening, which is both like engaging in the Western genre and very breaking bad

coded with the like, mishap hijinks incredible visual in the desert of a car teetering on top of

the border wall. What did you think of our introduction back to Euphoria? I mean, the tipping

car is so breaking bad. Yeah. In a really great way, honestly. I feel like Euphoria takes a lot

of those familiar elements, whether it's things that's paying homage to, whether it's riffs on

existing ideas or like frameworks of stories you know and finds like new and exciting ways to make

them both interesting and also terrible to experience and watch like the anxiety of the tipping car

as Ru is trying to extricate herself from it. That's just great TV. Like it's such an awesome way

to start us into something that feels as new as this. We should mention some new people,

creative people involved in the season, Hans Zimmer on the score. This one, this one I feel kind of

mixed about because obviously Hans Zimmer like, absolutely genius. Do you think Sunday I was like,

hey, Hans, we've worked together so well and do and come over and do Euphoria. But Labyrinth,

the Labyrinth music is so iconic to the experience of Euphoria to me and I just like listen to those

tracks often. I just I think they're incredible and so in terms of like a soft reboot,

having this Hans Zimmer score over. They were supposed to collaborate but I don't know if you saw

that Labyrinth put this like post up on Instagram like a week ago that said quote, I'm done with this

industry fuck Columbia double fuck Euphoria. So I don't know the whole story there. If there was

indeed a collaboration between Hans Zimmer and Labyrinth this season or if it was just a Zimmer joint,

I don't know, but I do miss the like very recognizable Euphoria musical sound with love and respect

Hans Zimmer. Calling Atwood is involved in the production but I'm very confused, legendary costume

designer calling atwood, but she's listed as a co-producer and there's a different costume designer,

which is Natasha Newman Thompson who Thomas who worked on the idol, which I will say the costumes

of Euphoria again, so iconic, especially Maddie's like looks that Cassie then copies and stuff like

that. But I did think that like Roo's what Roo is wearing in that opening, like I'm missing the

the iconic Maroon hoodie and what she's wearing the opening even though she's got the Converse on,

struck me as a little bit more costuming than I feel like I feel like they did such a good job

with Roo and even with Jules, even though Jules is like a much more fashion for version of this,

but like I could be a high schooler but I could see a high schooler wearing those things and like

we're not high school anymore, but like what Roo is wearing in the opening, I don't know,

just like struck me as a little different. Well, what if the real costume Joe is adulthood,

you know, what if we're all just children underneath putting on our dress up clothes? Great question,

great question, Rob. I think it's important and great that we start with like the Roo charm

offensive, like right off the bat, she's made friends with these guys who are like helping her get

the car started, right? And then she's doing something physically dangerous by the way she's driving

across the desert by the like the car teetering is dangerous, but her navigating it the way she

smashes into the back window. So you're like, this is funny and wacky and then there's just like real,

like holy shit, Roo moment to it and then like lying to and charming the farm family,

getting a whole bus to chance you, you can't USA, like all of that is just like Roo,

navigating the world and despite her self described anxiety, she just is incredibly charming.

And that's the lubricant that she uses to get lubricant will come up again later, but that's

the lubricant she uses to do well. It always does. I mean, I just think you have to start with

Roo for a bunch of different reasons. And I think you nailed that part of it, Joe. Honestly,

she is the part of this show for me so far that just like slips right back in to familiar patterns,

right? It is that energy. It is that appeal. Like this is a character who even though she's not in

the exact same place she was at the end of season two, I get the jump of how she would have gone

through these steps and also hit the roadblocks that she's hit and also kind of been in this state of

life where she is scrambling to try to make good on the suitcase full of drugs that we can't just

forget about and apparently Sam Levinson can't just forget about part of me wishes maybe we could

have just like left that in the past, but if you want a through line and a reckoning, this is the

place to start and this is the character to start it with. I have to say though, I'm a Laurie fan.

So Martha Kelly, Martha Kelly, that part of it is showing up. The way that like I don't think

that I had checked whether or not Martha Kelly was coming back this season. So the way when Roo

you know walks up to this house in the middle of nowhere and then you see the birds and I'm like,

oh no, it's Laurie's out. Fuck it kidding me. Then we get the rewind. And that's the other thing

about Euphoria is like for you know all of its flaws or whatever. It the way it zooms through time

and just like cuts back and forth while just respecting that the audience will keep up.

Yeah. I really appreciate it. I love that about it.

Zooming through time, zooming through perspective, there's a lot of like roshamoning of various like

secrets and who knows what. It really does trust you to be along for the ride.

Our girl Fay is also back. I'm so happy about this. I did not know she would be returning for

the show. And frankly like with Fez not being in the series for obvious reasons, I was curious if

they were even going to try to involve her. But showing up in the capacities she did Joe and like

the sequence of the two of them trying to choke down these balloons full of fentanyl

is one of the funniest things and also one of the worst things I've seen all year on TV. Just

horrendous and also amazing. Really tough. When when we're like decided to bring a friend and then it cuts

to Fay to Chloe Cherry, that's one of the best like jokes. I actually think the best joke belongs

to Lexi this episode. But like that's like that cut to oh of course it's Fay is like extremely good

and then their whole crossing the border try not to shit themselves sequences is also incredibly

incredibly good. Anything else you want to say about that. Not good but the strainer cut of using

the strainer to sift the drugs into using the strainer for pasta. That is the work of a madman.

Can we is this a good time to float some ideas for bespoke emails for this show?

I would love nothing more. What do you have in mind? I did wonder for Bidden strainer.

I like for Bidden strainer. It could be a possibility. I also had failure to clench.

Was another option. Any thoughts that you have? Just for those not as familiar with this part of

our process. We're creating an original email address to have a conversation with all of you all

season about you for you season three. I got to say I was kind of at a loss with this one. I mean I

have some episode specific like just creating content at gmail.com in salute to our girl Cassie.

Also I don't know if I want to be on here every week singing saying King of Pussy at gmail.com.

But it is a thing we could in theory do. I know if slice of heaven wasn't

probably clearly taken. I thought of that. Yeah. I don't know about king of pussy.com but at gmail.com.

But I definitely did consider it. I don't know a lot of the episode specific ones like

little green apples or slice of heaven or whatever is you know are all obviously taken out there in

the world. Should we ask our listeners that they have any suggestions? I would love that. You can

email us at prestige tv at spotify.com for now. If you have any ideas on what our email address

should be and I don't know about you Joe. I'm open to historical examples too. Like if you want to

pull from memes of season past seasons past like I think that could be a great avenue too. Is this

fucking play about us at gmail.com? Is that never been happier at gmail.com? I think there's options

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which is how one beheads a chicken on a farm. I'm so glad you brought this up. I'm upset that I know.

I looked this up, apparently called manual cervical dislocation, which is somehow not what Dr.

Langton did on the pit this week. How is this a real thing? How is this the method that we have

devised to accomplish this particular task? I mean, it seems very practical like an apple

core or something like that. I just didn't, I didn't need to see it. I don't like. I don't want

an apple core process to kill a chicken. I just don't want that. Listen, well, I mean, I

always thought you did it manually. I thought there was a whole sort of sorry for vegetarians.

You can skip ahead. I thought there was a whole grab by the neck, sort of swinging around,

sort of maneuver that I had seen. Like a lasso? Yeah, you grab the chicken by the neck and then

you sort of swing it to break the neck and then that's a merciful way. It seems more merciful than

the ripping off thing that we saw. I mean, I guess it's all the same biological process in terms

of you're snapping this chicken's neck. There is something though that is violent and crude about

doing it through this weird metal hook. I was so, and it was all rusted, I was so upset

by it and I was watching with a friend and she's like, where the fuck do you think your rotisserie

chicken comes from? And I was like, I don't want to confront that. Thank you so much. That's why I live

in America. All right, Lexi and LA Knights. There's a real, we're in a real moment and Chris and I

were talking about this in the watch last week. There's a, we were in a real moment of

TV shows about Hollywood, right? We've got this hacks is back, ready to do the studio, etc, etc.

So LA Knights, how did you feel about this Lexi, Lexi, the storyteller is working in television.

She's on the WB lot. Sharon Stowe is here. Welcome to LA Knights. How do you feel?

Mostly getting coffees, which I think checks out for the stage of life.

Where did you place LA Knights? Like, what kind of show is it? Because I couldn't quite tell if it was

pure soap or more like teen drama. I placed it in 1998. Like in the fonts. This is some silk stockings

USA up all night, like kind of stuff or like it looked very like Melrose Place,

the 90210, like something like that. I don't think that show exists right now. So I think Sam

Levinson is using a sort of, we're outside time and space because when you first see the way you

for CLA Knights is like, Fanny Pack Schwag that's on Lexi's table as the camera pants pass and like

that again, that font is very like Baywatch Knights. And so I was just sort of like, what are we,

when are we? What are we doing here? But I'm excited to find out. It's a question I ask with this

show all the time, Joe, in terms of like Cassie is a character is like obsessed enough with true romance

to dress up as Alabama for Halloween characters are constantly like singing and referencing things.

And I'm like, I just don't believe that you like that thing. Thank you so much. The Halloween

episode of Euphoria. It's wild where Cassie is, I mean, the only one I can get on board with

is Jewels Dress is third day in from Romeo and Juliet. That I'm like, I perfect. I mean, look,

I'm an easy mark for all of these things. Jewels are great character Romeo and Juliet. One of my

favorite movies of all time. Like I'm here for it. But like culturally, I get it. But like Maddie with

love and respect dresses, Jody Foster from Taxi. Like they're just like all of these like costumes

where I'm like, simply no. And this is, this is what I mean. And this is coming out after our pit

episode this week. But we haven't recorded that yet. But we're going to talk about it again. We talk

a little bit because like, the way in which these like Gen X or older writers put their cultural

references on the younger generation, that Halloween episode is insane in terms of what people are

wearing. But yeah, when are we? Is a great question. This is, this is like kind of a Hollywood story now

though. Like how do you feel about this? Like we went like, I guess we were in the California

suburbs. I never thought to like long and deep about where Euphoria was set. Any any town,

suburbia where you could get to a city quite easily because Jewels went there. But like we get

Johnny Cash's sunset and vine like we're driving around the the Chinese theater Batman and in an

Uber like, how do you feel about this being a Hollywood story now as a as a as a Hollywood boy

yourself. Well, and soon to be one yourself too. You know, we are going to be of this world.

Doing some boots on the ground reporting as far as the Hollywood experience. I think it works

because Lexi and Maddie work in that world. As far as again, these transition jumps from season two,

Maddie becoming an agent to like a very specific kind of like Instagram famous influencer actor,

like that completely tracks for me. And obviously Lexi wanting something both creative but like

creative working for people who also profess to care about things. That's about as Lexi as it gets.

What did you make of the Sharon Stone writer's room moment where she gets not only like

snaps and response from her for our younger writers, but also talking about how the stories we make

on television impact the ballot box. Here's I'll tell you I'll give you my take, which is this.

Sam Levinson. Lexi Ruiz Sam Levinson's like self insert, but Lexi in season two as the sort of

the writer of the observer is also like and the like the zander. Sometimes people have to get their

feelings hurt. Art should be challenging. Art should make people upset. You know, all this

are stuff like that. Like that's very self insert. Sam Levinson. This is what story should be. This

is what art should be. He's making a television show about his own experience as an addict and what

he did to his family. So I'm sure he has family members or friends who recognize themselves in

euphoria and are pissed and are like, is this fucking play about us? You know, like I'm sure that

happened to Sam Levinson. So like that was his sort of take on like why writing and art matters and

should be confrontational in season two. In season three, I will give him the credit. He seems to have

decided to poke fun in himself about how important TV writing is in 2024 or any other time.

What did you think? Especially the quick transition to like these are why all these things are

important and that's why we have to break the plot on season episode 12. It's a great moment.

And the writer's room in terms of composition does look like something like so meticulously

curated in terms of representation and types of like it just is I think a really great snapshot

of an entry point into this world. Anything else you want to say about Maddie and her talent

revving plot line. Not a lot to it as of yet. Although I will say if LA Knights is a thing that

doesn't exist an Indie called if I may I might that's a thing that 100% exists and I've probably

watched it on point. It's a point. Rebecca pigeon is here as Maddie's boss and this is an actress

who I love. So I'm interested to see how they use her. And then that brings us to Cassie and Tiktok

in their right wing suburban bubble. I will say here's a couple things I will say. The fact that

Nate Jacobs one of the violinist people to ever exist on television. And here's the thing about

Nate Jacobs horrible human being. I both hate him and enrooting for his absolute demise and downfall

and when Fesco beats his face to a pulp. I'm like great do it some more. I'm sensing a bug.

There's a way in which especially in season one, Nate is like a psychological assassin of people.

The way in which he like psychologically devastates jewels and then later Rue. He's so smart.

I'm not sure that's as president season two and it certainly doesn't seem as as president here though

he is you know running a real estate scam. Yeah maybe it's like smart for high smart for high school

jock but maybe doesn't translate to the real world or not so easy to be your father or all these

other things. But love that he drives a cyber truck. One of my most hated objects in the world is

perfect for Nate. And I don't do you know this thing about the shirt that he's wearing on the

job site. No. This is one of my favorite facts. So Jacob Lorty has a contract with Boteca Vanetta.

So when you see Jacob Lorty. Of course he does. We see Jacob Lorty with like a leather woven

tote bag which he is always carrying. That's like a branded sort of thing. In the work trailer and

then later on the job site sort of scenes. He is wearing what looks like a flannel shirt but is in

fact a leather shirt that has been crafted to look like a flannel shirt. That is a Boteca Vanetta

like the sort of star of their spring collection or something like that. So Fredram sent me this GQ

article about it the other day and I was like. But why? But Jenny evenly why no one watching the show

can tell that that is a leather shirt made to look like a flannel shirt. It just looks like a

flannel shirt. But this is like so clearly you know in terms of like how did we get all of this talent

back. Clearly part of Jacob Lorty's contract is I have to be able to rep and like Boteca Vanetta

as much as possible which is just like I want to hear all of the writers and all of the strings

and all of the contracts that got everyone back here. Any thoughts on this?

Well, and the gratuitous shot of the bag in particular. It's like in frame as a main character

for a full beat. So clearly yeah, this is contractual. I would say that exists only for this exact

purpose for like I think Jake the larger Nate conversation is not so dissimilar from the larger

Sydney Swini conversation for me of the show clearly figured out over time what it had in Jacob

Lorty and what it has right now is like a full on star a full on like style icon and sex symbol

and there will be people googling what is this shirt that Nate is wearing and they're going to find

out that it's a leather woven faux flannel shirt that costs more than their rent. Yeah, I believe it

is like $6,000 for the finale we will both be appearing in the leather flannel shirt expense by

Spotify. Thank you so much. How excited do you well should our gmail be leather flannel shirt?

It's just a confusing garment in many different ways. How do you think how excited do you think

they were to like slap the Academy of War nominee Jacob Lorty on the on the ad campaign and

Academy of War nominee Coleman to Minko. I mean listen. It's a loaded cast it is what it is.

Anything you want to say about Cassie's introduction how much is this dog is that dog in the window?

Um, they're candle it dinner her wedding plans anything like that.

Yet again, I'm just like not super compelled by the Cassie stuff that's happening so far.

Yeah. Yeah. So I hope that it takes a turn. I hope we see some wrinkles in that character that

show us something new. She seems like almost fundamentally dumber in this episode than she was

in previous seasons and I'm not saying like Cassie was ever like the most intellectual character but

I don't even know what this is or what it's supposed to be or we're supposed to be taking from

Cassie's like beginning of this particular journey. She gets some great lines like I don't want to

be arguing about ice lucius is definitely something that really jumped out to me. Her larger premise

of like I am willing to sell my body to play pay for floral arrangements. I guess is a certainly

a premise you could use for a TV show but between her not being that interesting and Nate being

I would say like straight up unrecognizable from the character that we know him to be. I just

don't know what to make of any of this. I don't have any confirmation on this but I have heard some

things about potentially part of Jacob Alority's contract negotiation was like I don't want to play

as much of a psychopath anymore. So like well I got bad news guy your character is a psychopath. But like

he's a softer more reasonable Nate Jacobs. I don't know anyway. But still driving a cyber truck.

Yeah I'm wildly disinterested in this spotlight though I do I do enjoy you know they've got this

huge house the pool with the blow up like all this sort of stuff like that and even though they

haven't been able to remodel everything it's just so tacky it's just like the tackiest shit you've

ever seen and that seems exactly right for Cassie a Cassie led decision. Maybe it was Alority

like striding through the door too but there's something very like Priscilla about some of the set

design like the very like colored like almost carpeted walls the scheming it's like it is very like

why are we again you know exactly like of a certain time that is certainly not this one but

creates a vivid world for you for you all the same. Let's go to a plot line and much more

interested which is Ali is here I don't know how much Coleman Divingo is going to be in the season

it'll just be like a couple diner scenes or something like that but we get this like just a great

fun conversation about faith and like thoughts throughout history of gay sex inside the Bible

worried the time for but sex at jimma.com is also another potential that that we could go for.

That's a great flag. Here's what I want to say about the audio book of the Bible that Ru is

listening to and the poor man in the back seat of her car is being subjected to.

Immediately and his shawawa and his mesh shirt. Immediately recognizable dulcet tones of the actor

Michael York narrating this and I was like huh did Michael York narrate an audio book of the Bible.

He did. This is called the world of promise audio Bible it is a full cast recording narrated by

Michael York. Jim Kavizel reprising his role as Jesus. Richard Richard Drifus is Moses.

Gary Sinesis David. Jason Alexander is Joseph. Marissa Tomay is Mary Magdalene Marissa.

Casey Keaches Paul. Lewis Gossett Jr. is John. John void is Abraham and Malcolm McDowell is Solomon

among many other stars in the firm. Is this an audio book you're going to be downloading and

trying out for yourself from. I mean if it's good enough for Ru maybe it should be good enough for me.

I think we're all looking for change in our lives. Maybe this is exactly what I need is Marissa

Tomay voicing. Sorry who was she playing? Mary Magdalene. I mean naturally. Yeah. So maybe that is

what I need. But she's using her Mona Lisa voice from my cousin Mini as Mary Magdalene. That's

how Mary Magdalene sounded. I don't know. And also as you know Joseph sounded like George from

side felt anyway. I'm fascinated by this project. I hope we get more audience. I really do hope we

get a Marissa Tomay. I like and I really want to Gary Sinesis. I love I love listening Gary Sinesis.

As David sure let's find out. Anything you want to say about this like the way in which this sort of

faith theme is introduced both in her sort of reaction to this family she meets in Texas and then

talking totally about it and then listening to Michael York near age Genesis. I like this kind of

chain of events of that it's something like ultimately very small which is on one of her drug

runs and we should say Ru is turned out to be a great mule you know just like top of her class

really appreciate it. She our girl is showing some sense of ambition and accomplishment and we're

here for her and she's clean right. She appears to be I mean if she's on step three. Yeah.

She seems to be clean. We have every suggestion that she is despite being so intertwined and

involved in this world. Yeah. But just this like one intersection with this like homesteading,

homeschooling, culty, Christian family. Which in their defense I do think we'd probably all be

happier if we weren't on the internet but here we are on the internet talking to all of you

sharing this beautiful time together that that could set her on a journey of like I'm just going

to choose to accept this as fact and faith because I'm making that conscious choice not because

like I've been pitched or sold although kind of inadvertently she has but just like I need to

believe in something and this steps as I need to believe in something and I'm going to make the

decision to do it wholeheartedly. I kind of like that turn for her character to be honest.

I'm really interested in the storyline. I uh two things I want to say about this. Number one,

the eldest daughter who drives her to the bus station from the family. If this is like a culty sort

of we don't have the internet. I have some questions about her eyebrow game and like her skin

care routine. This is a general style. So real Instagram face for a culty sort of middle of nowhere

young girl. And then she's a tradwife influencer with like 500,000 followers. And then um Lexi's

joke and a mod habit I just said I think mod habit was really good on the show and I think I thought

like the increased use of Lexi in season two is something that I really liked about season two.

But when Ru is talking about Christianity and Lexi's like I would never be friends with the Christian

and her mod habit is a little bit of because their judgmental is was my joke of the episode.

I thought it was really funny. It's a beautiful moment. All right, we're here at the end and we

haven't even touched on the alamo. So let's talk about Ru's entrance into this entire other world.

We have a whole new cast of characters in this new world. Uh, Aduh Wally, Aikanoia,

Akbaje from Lost is here as Alamo. Well from Oz is here. He's always Mr. Echo to me. Sorry.

He's always at a PC to me, although Mr. Echo also. But he's here. I mean,

this reminds me of like, I mean, breaking bad or just like any of that era of show where it's like

here's your new flamboyantly something big bad of the of the season, you know, like.

Xbox. Yeah, exactly. This is very like, FX of a certain era or whatever. Um, but he shows up

the hats here. Uh, you know, we meet him in the hot tub. He's got a bunch of hedge people

played by actors. We recognize and also Marsh on Lynch. Um, that's an actor we recognize.

It's in a beast mode isn't accomplished for former at this point. We respect bottoms on this

podcast show. And Ru's just like very sort of like, look at all these half naked babes or I can

help you fix your bikini or like all of these moments for Ru or dancing with all the girls on the

dance floor. Great, great shit. And then we, and then we wind up with this, uh, shooting the apple

off the head a moment. Yes. What's interesting to me about Ru's whole faith, uh, journey inside of

this season is, uh, if you, you know, if you go back and watch the first two seasons, there's

so many moments where Ru goes, please God. Yeah. Like, let me survive this. Please God, let this not

happen. So like, and of course, all the like church, uh, you know, musical numbers that you hate

and I love, uh, and stuff like that. So like, it's big. Oh, you mean the one that was like a fantasy

sequence on top of a fantasy sequence in which he's having a double delusion. What are we doing?

Um, just like inception delusion later, it's all the way down. I loved it. Um, but yeah, uh, tell me

about your experience with the Alamo here. A great introduction to this character. And yeah, like

Adoale in particular. And if you've seen Oz, you are very familiar with this. Honestly, if you

seen lost, you're very familiar with this where he has this like underlying menace on first glance,

but also in a way that's completely captivating. And there's, there is like a gravitational pull to him

where you not only want to see him on screen, but you want like more characters dragged into his

immediate orbit. Uh, I love this addition, especially in contrast to someone like Lori, right,

who is so cool, so calm, we could do with a little flamboyance by contrast and we could do with

somebody who like is going to put Ru in in situations that she doesn't know how to deal with. And

it seems like on first blush that the way she's going to deal with them is just by leaning even

harder into her faith. And if you choose to believe in God, if you choose to believe in like

predestination or divine power, everything happens for a reason. Even if you're getting like

taken out to a ditch to be William Teldon. William Tolt. William Tolt and Gmail.com.

I don't know, honestly, I don't know. Fesco is very mentioned, gets mentioned.

Jewels gets mentioned. She's a she's a sugar baby allegedly. We'll see. And then Gia gets

mentioned. Gia doing very well in school. I think Ru was lying about where she was, but not lying

about the fact that Gia's doing well. Gia is. Yeah. Anything else that we didn't get to that you

want to mention? Well, no mention of Elliott so far in the show, but we've seen that he will appear

at some time in the series. I'm eager for that. I actually really like. I like that character too.

And of the musical moments that worked for me, his performance of the song for Ru.

From no. You don't like that song? Little star. Rob, you were not here at alive on in the euphoria

fan and when that happened, but that was like one of the most controversial things that

happened that finale because we didn't know it was going to happen to Fes. We're on the like

the edge of our seat where like, it's fair going to be okay. And it's like pause. You now have

to listen to Elliott sing a song for Ru. Yeah. Everyone hated it. But I was moved. I loved it.

I certainly loved it a lot more than like again, just prancing around your various homes,

lip syncing to various songs that Sam Levinson likes. You know, I just think we could do different.

Honestly, how dare you. I love all the prancing that Zadid does. But real talk like we're going

to need a lot of hunter shaper on this show. I think this was a problem with season two. We kind of

talked around it. But season two felt like hunter shaper is very popular and hard to schedule. And

thus we're going to shoehorn her into like scenes with one person at a time, arrested development,

season four style. But she was rarely like part of the action. Yeah. And I don't know how you get

her into the mix with these other characters. But I love what she brings to this show. I love

jewels. Like there is a bracing vulnerability to what hunter shaper does that makes that character

so vivid and so interesting to watch in all these situations. So like season two, I guess it's

going to need to be a jewels episode for me. And I mean, as we talk about the legacy of Euphoria,

I don't it's impossible to talk about like to not talk about jewels as a character 2019.

This like trans girl who like yes, her transness is part of, you know, Nate's issue with her

and all these other things. But like her main story is not really about her trans identity. It's

this like it isn't it isn't. But it's about the forms these other aspects of. But it's like

in 2019, I think having a trans character where like that is not the only, you know, aspect of

this person was a huge, huge deal at the time and like hunter shaper who had been a model but not

acted before. This is just like a huge moment for her. And so yeah, I just I love jewels. I was also

sort of bummed not to see her. But I think, you know, I what I anticipate is, you know, we'll get a

very jewels centric episode. We'll dedicate a lot of time to her. You know, I like all the things

that euphoria did in season one with like showing the childhood of and in season two of like

Cassie or Maddie or all the sorts like how did we get here? The Cal flashback episode of season two

absolutely demolished me. Like I thought that was incredibly good episode. So I'm excited to see

what we get for jewels this season. Anything else you want to mention?

I have one question for you, Joe. Do you think that I like Alamo could pull off scorpion boots?

Do you really want me to tell you the answer that? I want your honest opinions.

Rob scorpion boots at jmail.com. Yeah, hit us up at pressccbsbotify.com. It's a very busy time on

the feed right now. We've got wrapping up the pit euphoria launching and we're going to have

a couple of episodes on the Netflix binge drop of beef season two. So like stay tuned. There's a lot

going on. But I hope you'll join us for this euphoria run because I think no matter what like people

are going to be talking about it and that's always fun. Thank you to both Devon and Aldo and

to Kai Grady for the work on the show today and we'll see you soon. Bye!

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