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We solve the adventures of Pinocchio, so you know what that means.

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Hello people, others, and hello people off Chicago!

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We are live at the Chicago Theater.

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Holy shit, this is amazing.

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Chicago, home of how to just get made first.

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You saw Hurricane Heist.

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You saw Blues Brothers.

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But we didn't torture you enough with those two films.

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We needed to turn it up a notch, and we did.

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With the Jonathan Taylor Thomas, Martin Landau, fantasy child's film?

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JTT and full effect for the last 30 seconds of this movie.

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The adventures of Pinocchio is everything that you love about the beloved classic Pinocchio,

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but really fucked up and weird.

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It's like they took all the children aspects out and replaced it with David Lynch Crazy.

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It's going to be very hard to talk about this movie because

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Jimmy-N-E-Crickets, not called Jimmy-N-E-Cricket.

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Stromboli is not called Stromboli, so we may have to get around that a little bit.

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But to help break it down tonight, we have two amazing people. My two co-hosts, please welcome

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first Mr. Jason Manzucas!

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What's up, jerks?

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What's up Chicago?

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How we do with balcony?

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Well, well, well, we meet again.

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Jason Paul, have you ever seen this movie before?

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I have not ever seen this waking nightmare.

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Of a film. This was haunting.

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It was like a diamond in the rough that no one even mentioned it, like in the millions of

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suggestions that we get for this show. No one ever said, did you know that there's a Jonathan

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Taylor Thomas Pinocchio movie? Never heard that.

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Have you characterized this as a Jonathan Taylor Thomas movie?

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It is a Martin Landau vehicle friend.

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This is part of the Landauis Hans, as far as I'm concerned.

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We can agree to disagree. I mean, JTT is getting top billing in this.

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And he's in it for barely minutes.

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But his voice. His voice is in it the entire film.

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Oh, so good.

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This was straight up garbage.

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This was like...

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This was...

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It reminded me of another terrible.

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All of the CG, all of the effects looked like previs.

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Yes. They looked like the idea of what we were gonna draw.

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But then they're like, fuck it. Put it in. We're in. We're in.

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It is a disturbing movie, especially as a father going,

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if I was ever tricked into taking a child to this,

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I am creating trauma for my children.

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It was also like overtly sexual.

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In any and always, every time that nose grew,

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I was like, somebody in this room has turned on.

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That person...

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Me.

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Way too many mouths open with water,

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jutting into it too.

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That was like slowed down and they were like, getting a gulp.

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Pinocchio meets flash dance.

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Well, I know that someone here is gonna have a very strong opinion about this film.

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She is my other co-host.

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Please welcome June Diane Raphael.

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How are you June?

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I'm doing okay. How are you?

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I'm fine. Thank you for asking.

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June, we watched the adventures of Pinocchio together today.

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Yeah, and...

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Let me just set the scene because we're staying in a very nice hotel.

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I love a luxury hotel experience.

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What? Let's not tell anyone.

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I'm not going to say where it is.

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It's a share to four points, yet used to it.

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If you're in Naperville, come knock on our door.

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I'm just gonna say it's a very...

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It's a luxury experience.

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Sure.

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It's between a subway and a dominoes.

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And it's totally cool if you send it up to the room.

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And I love that experience so much that I'm willing...

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I'm willing and able to watch whatever comes my way.

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I mean, you saw when you came back last night, what I was watching.

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Yes, we were watching Chicago live, the replay.

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It's at night.

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Yes.

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So it's a replay of what is a live morning show?

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I think so.

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And it was terrible.

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It's still called Chicago live, even though it's day-

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Replay.

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But I can fall into whatever the TV has to offer me happily.

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Oh, if I'm in a hotel, Guy Fieri is all...

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Triple D, baby.

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But it's not even home.

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If I'm at home and Guy Fieri comes across the screen,

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I'm like, this fucking guy, get him out of here.

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But in a hotel, I'm like, this is the best thing I've ever seen.

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Absolutely.

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I'm just happy to be there.

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Happy to have been invited to the experience.

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Yeah.

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And so for me to have such a negative reaction to a movie

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during a luxury hotel experience,

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means it's really quite, quite bad.

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Yeah.

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Like, would you rather watch this movie again,

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or have one hour and 45 minutes of diarrhea?

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Like, isn't that the length of the movie?

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First of all, there was no way the movie was an hour and 45 minutes.

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This was a five hour movie.

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No, it was a nine-hour movie.

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96 minutes.

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It's not possible.

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It's not that long.

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It has to be longer.

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It has to be longer.

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That's impossible.

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96 minutes have felt like longer than endgame and infinity war

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pushed together.

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I'd watch...

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I'll say this.

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I watched the whole movie.

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Then I clicked on it to see how far it had progressed.

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22 minutes.

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I was like, that can't be right.

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I've watched all of Jepetto's nightmares now.

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It was a tricky 96 minute.

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No, I...

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I...

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I...

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Don't remember, I guess, the story of Pinocchio,

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was paid for the cricket part of it.

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So...

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Jiminy the cricket was.

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That's a poem I thought.

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We turned to each other instead.

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Jiminy was an in-Jiminy cricket.

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Jiminy cricket, though.

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My belief is the Pinocchio story must be public domain.

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Anybody can tell it.

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Yes.

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But my guess is Jiminy cricket was a Disney creation?

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Well, I think the idea of a cricket

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that has the moral compass for Pinocchio is true.

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And I think then Disney may have labeled him as Jiminy.

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And that was it.

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Because also all the characters in the classic Pinocchio tale.

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I mean, there's a lot of differences.

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I think this is more based on the book.

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Okay, so...

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The book Pinocchio?

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Yes, the book Pinocchio.

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I mean, I remember reading Pinocchio.

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And I...

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I don't think that's what I saw.

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I mean...

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This is not the story that I remember.

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And seeing the title now,

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it did make a little more sense

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that this is just one of the many adventures of Pinocchio.

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No, it...

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This is...

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This is all the adventures.

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This is all the many.

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Because he's one of the...

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In the movie, he is made a child slave.

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Turned into a donkey.

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He is part of the show.

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He is the lead of the musical performance.

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He is swallowed by a sea monster.

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Well, who is a man?

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Who was a man like...

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I think these are in fact all of the adventures of Pinocchio.

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Like, there isn't another Pinocchio story

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or is there because there was a sequel to this film.

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The sequel was released three years later.

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It was called The New Adventures of Pinocchio.

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What?

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This is Marahe.

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Please tell me he comes to contemporary Earth.

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Martin Landau did reprise his role.

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Wow.

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And Udo Kare came back not as Lorenzini,

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but as Lorenzini's wife, Madame Flambeau.

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So he went a different direction.

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What?

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And then Gabrielle Thompson played the title role

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replacing JTT.

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By the way, Jean, this is 96.

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Were you with JTT head?

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Let's see.

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I was 16.

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I was a little too old to be a full JTT head.

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Got it.

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I mean, I remember knowing of him and seeing him in the, you know, on the rags.

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But I did it.

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Was he getting a lot of gossip rag on the rags?

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Yeah.

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So when you were having your period, you would see.

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You were going to say that.

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Tell him to contain your Thomas.

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Like, oh, no, my odd flows visiting.

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Guess I'm going to see JTT space everywhere.

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I only seem to see it when I'm on the rags.

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Yeah, I was like a few years too old for him, but um.

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Not me.

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I loved him.

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I probably would the puppet though of JTT Pinocchio was he looked nothing like

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Jonathan Taylor Thomas at the end.

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He looked much younger than Jonathan Taylor Thomas when Pinocchio, the, the,

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the, about 10 years.

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He looks like a, I don't know, six-year-old boy, something in there.

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Yeah.

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And Jonathan Taylor Thomas appears to be 12 when he transforms into a human boy.

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Well, I mean, at the end of the movie, you think, you know, he's going to be asking for like,

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a sister, but he's like, get me a girlfriend.

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Yeah.

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I want to fuck some wood dog now.

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Get some dick splinters.

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What's up? Here's my question.

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Here's my question just because you brought it up.

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This is my genuine question.

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He's now a real boy.

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He's been transformed into a living boy,

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played by Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

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Why not try and get a girlfriend amongst the living?

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Why have JTT carve a wooden girlfriend?

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You then will have to find a magical way to bring that,

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marrying it to, do you know the odds of twice, transforming, or he's just going to fuck,

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fuck that, fuck that wood and pussy.

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Well, this is what this is, what is so weird about the movie.

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I mean, I asked the very same question when Pinocchio is trying to save other puppets

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in the theater scene because it's as though he's saving his friends and,

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and actual people.

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And I did not know if, I mean, is the premise of this movie that every puppet has the potential to...

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I don't think so.

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I was doing some thinking about this too, June, because you said,

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you were not.

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Yes.

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Because when June said we were watching it and, and uh, Peppy,

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Jiminy Cricket says, go save your brothers and sisters,

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they never come to life, but they're treated like when two of them are left on the ground for dead,

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like, oh, he left them for dead.

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But then I remembered in the beginning of the movie, Martin Landown, his great Italian accent,

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says,

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meet your brothers and sisters.

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And so I think it was sort of like a little bit of like a flower sack baby scenario for Peppy,

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was sort of like, hey, if you want to be responsible, real boy, you got to care about people,

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and that was his first challenge.

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Huh.

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Yeah, maybe.

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I guess it's a movie.

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I mean, I get it.

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What I thought was, I think all the other Marianettes are just that, Marianettes.

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Because the Pinocchio Marianette was carved from the tree that had the heart,

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carved into it, that was the magic that allowed for him to have infused in him the love of

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Jepetto and Leonna.

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And that their love is the bit of magic that allowed him to come to life.

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But no, no, no.

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I just want to pull this back because I want to get to your saying, but that's a problematic thing.

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No, problematic.

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Because Jepetto wasn't loved with the woman who married his brother.

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Didn't seem like she was in love with him or knew about it until he was rowing off the sea.

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He's like, by the way, I fucking love you.

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Also, and you're like, I don't have time for this.

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Also, this is, do you have access to the movie right there?

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Uh, yes.

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Can you, while I set this up, go to the very last beat of Jepetto?

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After Pinocchio runs away, we have a shot of just Jepetto and Leonna.

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And it's now they are in love for the, for, for, had they live happily ever after space.

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And she looks miserable.

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And there you have it.

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Jepetto and Leonna lived happily ever after.

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They lived happily ever after.

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He touches her shoulder. She recoils.

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Yes, she looks like she is not there at her own will.

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She does, she literally looks like she's being held prisoner by the puppet maker.

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She expected him and rightly so to die at sea.

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And she didn't want to be like, I never loved you in that moment because she thought

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that would be too harsh.

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And now she's what, you know,

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what if we, what if we, we, we, when we tried to deceive, am I right?

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What if we reversed around this right now?

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What if in this shot, we reversed all the way around and saw what they were looking at.

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And it was just the, the, the, the Pinocchio, um,

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Marionette line on the ground.

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And the whole thing was Martin Landau's crazy.

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His, he, he was insane and everyone is humoring him.

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Did anyone else think that the magic that Pinocchio might be the spirit of

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Jopeta's brother?

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Oh, hold on.

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What now?

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I think there's a world in which, because the magic of the movie is so strange.

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I don't know if he's their child.

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Did Leona and Jopeta's brother have any children?

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Doesn't seem like it.

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No, it doesn't seem like the, like the brother was a really interesting add-on

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because it felt like it was always an unrequited love.

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And then at a certain point it's revealed, oh, that was Leona and he was married,

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she was married to my brother.

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Well, what was interesting is when we, we, in the beginning scene,

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is when they're carving the tree.

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Carve, he's carving the initials in the tree and they're young.

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And then it cuts to, like they say, a few years later.

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But it's, Martin Landau's an old man.

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Yeah.

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By the way, he missed his shot, like by a lot.

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I mean, by the way, I love the opening video in this movie because

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you're introduced to Jopeta through his voiceover,

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which just sounds like an old man, like ordering a bagel.

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I just give me, and the poppy seeds, and the, and tomatoes, not too much.

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If I read you, I'm telling you.

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It might as well be Richard Kine, narrating this movie.

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I don't know.

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What is going on?

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But all right, so I'm a baker.

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I'm carving my initials in a tree.

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I always thought the story of Pinocchio is that Jopeta wanted a child.

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Yes, I don't believe that, I don't think the legend of Pinocchio has, as it's root,

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like an enchanted log.

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No, I mean, the whole idea, well, this is the issue they have.

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He's in love with the Yona.

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So the log becomes enchanted, so his log,

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I mean, strikes it too, I think.

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Right, so his love then gets him a boy.

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It's like, oh, I would love to be in love.

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You got a son.

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Okay, I get, I mean, yeah, it's sort of like,

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I'm in kind of the right place.

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I got the lift left me in the general area.

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I got to walk a little bit further to get to where I want to go.

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But like, it's a weird thing that he gets a boy because he's in love.

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I wonder though, in making this movie, they were, you know, because it was live action,

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they felt it was too creepy to have a man of Landau's age just want a little boy.

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I have an update.

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You think I haven't avoided creepy stuff like that?

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I haven't update.

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They did not succeed.

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But this was straight up erotic.

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The first moments that Pinocchio comes to life.

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When, and I'll say it, they're telling me when Pinocchio comes to life,

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he immediately gets into a bathtub with Martin Landau.

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Oh, Martin Landau is wearing clothes in the bath.

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Fucking Italians.

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I literally thought that Martin Landau was like, I can't be naked and a little boy gets in the bath.

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Yes.

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Because the little boy puppet is also naked.

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He's not wearing anything at that point, right?

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Yes, but I don't think...

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I don't think Jonathan Taylor Thomas is doing that on set.

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No, and I don't think that the little boy, I don't think Pinocchio was carved genitalia.

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No.

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We don't know.

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And that's kind of what the Seafull gets into.

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Now listen, did I cry during the courtroom scene when they ripped Pinocchio away?

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I did.

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June.

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I did.

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Sob.

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Sob.

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Not cried.

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Sob.

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Whoa.

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Yeah.

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Are you sobbed that the evil puppet owner,

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it's the court decides evil puppet owner?

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You get this kid.

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And then the evil puppet guys, come with me son.

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Are you now?

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He's his son.

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And then later Pinocchio is like, well, Lorenzini is my puppet now.

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I was like, oh, this poor kid is literally being human trafficked.

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Yes.

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Between people in the same town.

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His father is like five blocks away.

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And he's in the theater like, guess I live here now?

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I'm the star of the show.

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But what about my papa?

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He's literally over there.

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I will say I was impressed with how off-book he was at that show.

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It seemed like he was given away in court in the afternoon.

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By night time, he was ready to go.

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He was all lyrics.

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By the way, not a bad gig.

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He's the star of the show.

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Everybody he's improvising.

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Everybody thinks he's hilarious.

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He's getting paid in gold coins like not too bad.

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For a kid who was born like a month ago,

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speaking fluent English.

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It's so crazy though that this evil guy is involved in children's theater.

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And it's great.

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When they cut to that audience at night, it's all kids.

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It's children.

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And what is he doing with these children?

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Because he's entertaining them there.

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But then he also has a side gig where he's turning kids into donkeys.

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Yeah.

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Like, please just kind of merge the two.

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Like why don't you put the theater and the donkey thing together?

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You got to run two separate businesses.

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But why does he want to turn little boys into donkeys?

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Why?

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We don't know.

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I think he's trying to get that ass.

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Sorry.

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It's not very good wordplay.

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Not very good wordplay.

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Oh booze.

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Booze from Chicago.

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Fair enough.

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I couldn't figure out if that's because he was selling them as work animals.

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Or I literally was like, I don't know what this is.

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It just seems like he, I mean, if you just look at them as his customers,

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like what?

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It just from a business perspective didn't make sense.

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I thought they were being sent to like work in the mines or something.

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And then they were all turned into donkeys.

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And I was like, oh, then, no, no, what it is, I'm sorry, is anybody gets turned into whatever they're acting like.

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So they happen to be acting like jackasses.

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No, no, no, no.

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Turn it into jackasses.

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I mean, that is in the Disney cartoon.

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They all turn into jackasses in the Disney cartoon too.

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But they go to push.

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But the raw Schneider and that woman got turned into a fox and a cat.

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Oh.

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Wait, right?

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And yeah, and he got turned into like a human whale.

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So they get turned into what they are, a monster.

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But so I couldn't figure out.

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Yeah, let's listen to what is this happen.

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Let's listen to what Vanzini says here.

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Act like a jackass if you have to love.

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Drink up the water.

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Get what you deserve.

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Be wicked.

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Be naughty.

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Come drink from my fountain.

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Then I will be rich.

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Oh, yeah.

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Okay.

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So he's, he just happens to have a magic fountain that turns people into animals.

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But we don't know why.

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Is that in the book?

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I know that pleasure of Ireland, they go there and they turn into jackasses.

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Do you want to tell us very quickly what the deal is?

24:07

What are we missing?

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Elon, let me get to go see.

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Is there a librarian in the house?

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How many library is this?

24:13

How many library is this?

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I'm here.

24:15

Wait a second.

24:17

All right, you can come here.

24:17

Can I give minor house lights up for a second?

24:21

I do want to hear this.

24:22

Okay, that's great.

24:22

I'm going to ask you in a second.

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Yes.

24:24

Hi.

24:24

How are you?

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Good.

24:25

I'm not a librarian, but I love books.

24:27

So in the original book, it's real fucked up.

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So this is accurate.

24:32

Yeah.

24:33

They turned them into donkeys to kill them and sell them for skin.

24:38

And the cat and the fox show up a lot to fuck with Pinocchio.

24:44

I know one time they take him to a tavern and they have him spend all this money for food

24:50

and then they rob him and string him up, like hang him.

24:55

And then they encounter him again and they convince him to bury a bunch of money in a field.

25:01

Then they rummage again.

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Well, that happened in this movie, yeah.

25:04

25:05

And throughout them, they keep popping up and like throughout the book and then I know they

25:13

turned into...

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For the skins.

25:16

For the skins, then they would be skin.

25:18

Oh, so they're turned into anything that can turn into skin?

25:21

No, no, no.

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They were turned into donkeys for the donkey skin to be made until like drums or something.

25:26

Okay, so they were...

25:27

So they were the ones that make drum margant.

25:29

Very quickly, if you're a librarian, will you please stand up?

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Wow.

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Okay.

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It's a decent memory.

25:37

All right.

25:38

Okay.

25:38

All right.

25:40

Oh, wow.

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Look it up there.

25:41

Nice.

25:42

This is...

25:44

Wow.

25:45

These are heroes.

25:47

Wow.

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We love our librarians.

25:55

All right, so...

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If donkeys are being turned into the skins...

25:58

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26:08

That's so weird.

26:08

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It's just subtly so we can go to cities and wipe out other librarians.

26:16

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All right, so that description is disturbing.

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They are to be skinned for their skinned,

28:34

for their skinned, they're turned into like drums.

28:37

That's bizarre, but it does answer a big question for me.

28:40

Because when I saw Rob Schneider, I said,

28:43

is he supposed to be playing a lion?

28:45

He looks to me like a performer in the Broadway version of Cats.

28:49

Yes.

28:51

BB Newworth doesn't look like a cat,

28:53

but he looks like an animal.

28:56

Like he does look bizarre in this movie.

28:58

He is, I was shocked when Rob Schneider came out screen.

29:02

I was like, oh, what's up?

29:03

What are we doing here?

29:05

I mean, this is...

29:07

Their whole subplot was fascinating,

29:10

because he appears to be like not in control of any.

29:16

He is like a straight up moron throughout.

29:19

Yeah. In a fascinating way.

29:22

The fact that he got turned into a fox, I was like, okay,

29:25

but like he should be turned into a jackass, I think.

29:28

Well, he's a Foxy guy, he's not a jackass, Jason.

29:31

I guess so. I guess so.

29:32

I mean, let's listen to a little bit of BB Newworth,

29:35

who I thought was Kate Hudson for a majority of the film.

29:39

Really? She looks like Kate.

29:41

She's just me.

29:41

But haven't you two got to push God to Rob?

29:45

We've already done that.

29:46

Oh, what's your pet old darling?

29:50

We were just playing with him.

29:52

He'll play with his own sword. Thank you.

29:54

Can you tell us what you think?

29:55

Now, these three people are supposed to all be Italian.

30:01

Correct?

30:02

All three of these people are doing their Italian accents?

30:05

These accents are going to come and they're going to go.

30:09

This man hang on to them.

30:10

Yeah, the context clues is that this is Italy,

30:14

but I mean, John the Taylor Thomas just speaks straight up

30:18

like he's on home improvement.

30:19

And all the kids, all like the kind of street-erchin kids,

30:25

talk like they are like newsies from the 20s.

30:28

Yes, or they're British.

30:30

Yeah.

30:32

And I'm just like, Rob Schneider's eyebrows are on like another level.

30:39

A lot of eyebrows, a lot of both of them.

30:41

A lot of like that like reddish brick color.

30:46

Yeah, I don't like that.

30:47

I'll tell you what was weird about this movie.

30:50

In a children's film to watch your main character get shot.

30:57

That was bizarre, a bizarre moment to watch him get shot and then play himself

31:02

as a recorder or some sort of musical instrument.

31:06

I also thought my whole thing was, okay, I get it.

31:10

Jopetto made him a mouth.

31:12

That's cool.

31:12

He's gonna eat, okay, great.

31:14

He likes sweets and stuff.

31:16

Did Jopetto make him an asshole?

31:20

Like, is he just filling up with stuff?

31:23

How's he getting rid of it?

31:24

Is he like a giant pinata or are you like at one point

31:27

that they break open his belly and everyone runs?

31:29

When he gets shot, cream and sweets should come pouring out of him.

31:35

It's gone nowhere else.

31:36

I mean, when he sneezes,

31:39

sawdust covers that teacher's face.

31:43

Yeah, so that teacher is standing there by the way waiting for him.

31:48

The nose and boosh, straight face shot of sawdust.

31:54

Just like the porn I watch on porn hub, sawdust porn.

32:00

I mean, we're getting into the school part and the kids.

32:05

And there is something very bizarre about this movie.

32:08

Besides everything that we've just mentioned for the last 40 minutes,

32:12

it's the fact that no one has any real reaction to there's a wooden boy walking and living amongst us.

32:23

Yes.

32:25

Jopetto never wants tries to hide it.

32:30

When Pinocchio gets out of the house,

32:33

Jopetto just picks him up and walks hand in hand with him,

32:39

rather than carrying him so that nobody will see.

32:42

An enchanted puppet is walking through the streets of Italy.

32:46

Yep.

32:47

And everybody's like, cool, cool man.

32:49

Hey, what magic puppet?

32:51

That cool.

32:52

Hey, they give him a nickname, hey Woody.

32:55

You know, they start to punch him.

32:56

They throw balls at him.

32:57

Like no one's frightened by him.

32:59

He is a part of society, which makes me go, did he do this before?

33:03

I don't know.

33:04

I like, is this a town where this happens?

33:06

How does Pinocchio end up matriculating in school?

33:13

How does he get a desk?

33:16

How does he know to go there?

33:17

How does he get, what did the attendance get called?

33:21

Pinocchio, new student Pinocchio here.

33:23

Like how did that happen?

33:25

I mean, simply it happened the same way

33:27

that everything in this movie happens.

33:29

He just sees something and gets in line.

33:32

Yeah.

33:32

Then he's there.

33:33

On a bus, going to school.

33:35

He just simply sees a line of boys and just tags onto the end.

33:40

I mean, there are worse ways to go through life than to just sort of

33:44

tagging along at the end of a line of boys.

33:47

And look, there's probably going somewhere.

33:50

Do the thing you should do.

33:51

I'll give it a try, but I can't imagine it going well.

33:55

I got to say, you guys getting on this school bus?

33:57

All right, I'll do it.

33:59

I got to say, I mean, you have to remember,

34:01

there's quite literally nothing in his head.

34:06

There's nothing inside his head.

34:09

How does he know anything?

34:13

How does he know anything?

34:15

Well, that's the weird thing about him.

34:16

He knows enough when he's immediately born to give

34:19

Jepetto a bar of soap for the bath, but then he rolls in with him.

34:26

But then doesn't know other simple things.

34:28

He's like, he's like, ha ha ha ha ha.

34:31

All right, weird.

34:33

Yeah, there are some weird things.

34:35

I just wanted to say one thing about the school.

34:36

And I think this is about, you know, I just want to say,

34:38

like, this is where Italian schools are so great.

34:41

You just show up any day, they'll put you in.

34:44

You know, it's not like American school system.

34:46

It's a real good school system there.

34:48

You're really negative on American schools.

34:51

I also, I guess girls just don't go to school there in Italy.

34:57

Yeah, are there many women?

34:58

There's not many, yeah, there's not many, there's no,

35:02

I don't think I saw any young girls at all on this show.

35:05

There's a couple who are watching the puppet show.

35:07

Okay.

35:08

And that's it.

35:10

The puppet show, by the way, that was, that music was all done by Brian May from Queen.

35:15

Oh, wow.

35:16

He wrote a seven minute puppet opera for that.

35:20

You can hear it on the soundtrack, which also includes a stung from Stevie Wonder.

35:26

To be fair, also, there will be more girls in class.

35:30

When Jopetta gets around to Carve no.

35:32

That's true.

35:33

I felt like the fun that we didn't have in this movie and the scenes that I wanted to see were,

35:40

and maybe I'm remembering the cartoon?

35:43

Yeah.

35:44

Yeah, but we never got to see him also pretend to be a puppet.

35:49

Like, have to, there's one scene where he just sort of falls asleep.

35:53

But the, the sheer comedy of watching him have to pretend to have strings and be a puppet when he

36:00

is a, well, not boy, but whatever he is.

36:04

A sentient law.

36:05

A sentient, a sentient doll.

36:09

I felt like we, there were just so many missed opportunities there.

36:14

There was also very little of what I consider to be Pinocchio's, like, true thing,

36:19

which is there was very little lying.

36:22

There was very little nose growing because he was the whole thing.

36:26

I thought that was Pinocchio's like, whole,

36:28

that's why it's called that.

36:29

Power comes through responsibility.

36:32

You know, they kind of blew it out in that school room scene.

36:35

It grew so big, so fast, so oddly, fallically, too.

36:41

That you're like, never again, they never did this.

36:43

I've learned my lesson by watching that nose grow so dramatically.

36:47

Do you, do you have the scene with the, in the whale?

36:50

In the, this is the scene.

36:53

This is overtly sexual.

36:55

So they're in the, they, they, they, they, they Pinocchio and

37:00

Jepetto have been swallowed by the Lorenzini once he's turned into the sea monster.

37:07

So they're both in the monster's belly and they crawl all the way to the monster's throat.

37:12

But it's too tight to get through.

37:14

They can't, we can you, okay, okay, yeah, yeah.

37:18

It's too tight to get through.

37:21

So Pinocchio's idea is he'll use his nose to stretch out or irritate the,

37:27

the animal so that they can get expelled basically.

37:30

So the basically, they do like reverse bulimia here and they make them puke from the inside

37:36

with his long, long nose.

37:38

But by the way, they could have totally gotten out through.

37:40

Now look at this, this first moment where Pinocchio's nose enters frame while he and Martin

37:46

Landau are in the same shot is pretty sexual, I think.

37:55

I contact, I contact.

37:59

I know what I have to do.

38:00

I hate you, Papa.

38:03

What?

38:06

I never, ever miss you.

38:08

Get your life.

38:10

I wish I never found it.

38:14

It's going right to his mouth.

38:16

Right towards his mouth.

38:18

I never wanted to be in the monster's mouth.

38:20

I mean, what?

38:22

It's a, what?

38:23

It's such a bold shot to just have the nose, the flesh colored nose, enter frame.

38:31

It's a lie.

38:32

This story, the story of Pinocchio and maybe I didn't want to, that closely is a child,

38:39

but the story was always, this is a puppet who lies too much and his nose grows bigger.

38:45

He does want to be a real boy.

38:47

But in order to become a real boy, he has to stop lying and start telling the truth.

38:51

And that's how he becomes a real boy.

38:54

I also thought that there was morals throughout, but the nose never stopped.

38:58

Like, the nose growing was always a thing.

39:00

Here just kind of stopped.

39:03

Like, he never grew again.

39:04

He seemed to tell lies later in the movie too.

39:06

But mostly, like, you know, wouldn't each adventure involve lying or not or learning lessons

39:13

that are significant towards becoming a better person thus,

39:18

warranting becoming a human boy and falling through on being the best possible version?

39:23

Isn't it a morality tale?

39:24

Each, each of them should be something, a lesson learned?

39:28

I think that that was what they were trying to do.

39:31

But they also introduced like the moral compass of him so late in the movie.

39:35

Like, that peppy character comes in so late.

39:39

And because here he goes, like, this is, this is Jiminy Cricket.

39:41

I'm talking about miracles.

39:42

I saw like a football double chin.

39:46

No, strong talent, strong talent.

39:50

Out of the woods, huh?

39:52

What are you doing now?

39:53

I'm not changing the clock.

39:54

Why?

39:56

So I can buy a miracle.

39:58

Any particular brand?

39:59

Real boy break.

40:01

Here's what works.

40:02

You dig a hole, you plant your gold, you let it cook.

40:05

First lesson about trust is learning home to trust.

40:07

Isn't this gold you'll see more with shaky?

40:10

I don't know.

40:11

A little.

40:12

And let me guess.

40:14

You ignore your instincts.

40:16

Give me two.

40:17

Maybe.

40:17

By the way, we're watching the CGI.

40:19

We're watching CGI on top of CGI here.

40:22

It's like, they're like, they've created a character that really, what you said.

40:26

It looks so bad.

40:28

And then it's on top of something that doesn't look great either.

40:32

And it's of, and this is a long scene between two CGI characters who are not there

40:38

and don't look good together.

40:40

They don't look like they're in the same world.

40:43

It is clunky as fuck this stuff.

40:46

Wallace Sean was the original voice of this cricket.

40:49

Amazing.

40:50

Was in the trailer and they said,

40:52

in the voice of the cricket,

40:53

Wallace Sean, but something happened.

40:55

And he is not the voice of the cricket in the movie.

40:58

But this is where he kind of, I think, tells folks.

41:00

Maybe he's the president of the cricket.

41:04

He keeps on saying he's the president of the cricket union.

41:08

And union rules say that he has to stay with Nokia.

41:10

But are crickets more realistic creatures?

41:14

Well, that's like, is there a cricket?

41:17

Is there like, are crickets in this world like guardian angels?

41:20

One is assigned to a boy or a child and is meant to look after.

41:27

I don't know.

41:28

I don't know. I also could not understand the cricket.

41:32

I just simply could not hear what was being said.

41:35

Do we talk about your partner?

41:38

Or I'll be falling down on the job.

41:39

But no!

41:41

Look.

41:42

Again, I watch everything with subtitles on.

41:45

So I'm mostly just reading.

41:48

I force Paul tried to watch this movie with subtitles on and I turned it off.

41:52

It's true.

41:57

You want to enjoy the magic of the cinema that's happening here.

42:01

You respect the visual image.

42:03

I prefer to watch my movies and read them.

42:06

But yet, one of the characters you could not understand.

42:11

That's part of the joy of movie watching.

42:13

Maybe they wanted it that way.

42:15

Well, clearly we have some questions about this movie.

42:19

We've barely tackled many of the points.

42:22

I'm sorry.

42:23

We have not talked about every...

42:25

We have not talked about this movie.

42:28

I mean, we are getting it to it where I wanted to open it up.

42:31

But I...

42:31

Let me know, Bade's in close.

42:33

Puppet tries to get in bad with him.

42:35

Question mark, exclamation point.

42:37

How does he know how to talk?

42:39

Question mark, question mark.

42:40

He does a question.

42:42

Why does his owner...

42:43

Go ahead.

42:44

What was it?

42:48

Why doesn't Leonna freak out that the puppet can talk

42:51

and walk, etc.

42:53

I wrote down this.

42:54

I wrote down this isn't his job because Jepetta goes,

42:58

you keep each other busy while on that work.

43:02

So he just makes all those fucking puppets for fun.

43:08

And then Leonna says, oh, I've made these close for puppets.

43:12

And I'm like, is there so much puppet commerce going on in this town?

43:15

Well, Lorenzini's basically thinks he's going to get rich

43:19

with a puppet show for kids.

43:21

Which itself is...

43:23

And the parents don't attend...

43:24

The parents don't attend with the children either.

43:27

That's like, just go out, go see your puppet show.

43:29

What's that?

43:29

I mean, okay, here we go.

43:32

How does he have teeth?

43:38

How does he have...

43:39

Pinocchio have a full set of white human teeth?

43:44

I'll do one better.

43:45

How does eating hot peppers translate into breathing fire?

43:49

There!

43:50

Great.

43:51

This man eats a chili pepper,

43:54

blows into a horn,

43:56

and creates more fire than a giant flame thrower.

44:02

All of a sudden, it looks like once upon a time in Hollywood,

44:05

and he's got these chili peppers to think.

44:09

He gets...

44:10

During the production of his play,

44:13

Pinocchio gets paid mid-show.

44:16

That's as if someone walked on stage currently

44:21

and gave me this show's income.

44:24

He's like, backstage and Lorenzini's like,

44:26

show's going great, Pinocchio.

44:28

Listen, here are the gold players, the gold I owe you.

44:30

You're going to be a star.

44:32

Everything's great.

44:33

He's like, quick, you're on.

44:34

What?

44:35

Also, Pinocchio seemingly falls into a puppet orchestra

44:40

because the conductor is a puppet.

44:42

Yes.

44:43

Yes.

44:44

And then, I was like, wait, so are puppeteers,

44:50

like if they are controlling musician puppets?

44:53

That's amazing puppeteers.

44:55

I assumed in the pit,

44:57

were real musicians and a real conductor.

44:59

Okay.

45:00

And that the puppet conductor was part of the show.

45:02

Yeah, but my question was also,

45:04

what are the puppeteers making of Pinocchio?

45:09

I mean...

45:09

That's a threat.

45:10

They're doing a part.

45:11

That right there!

45:13

That's a threat to their livelihood.

45:14

They're called industry is about to collapse before they're very honest.

45:18

Puppeteers should want this kid dead.

45:21

Yeah.

45:22

This... I don't know.

45:23

They're out of business.

45:25

It might catch to the other marionettes.

45:27

Maybe they're going to become alive.

45:31

That's an adventure.

45:34

When the puppeteers union joins up with the crickets union

45:38

to eradicate Pinocchio,

45:40

I mean, this is like puppet.

45:43

This is really a union story.

45:45

I mean, union all the way.

45:47

I would love it if in the Psyco Pinocchio

45:49

like steals an apple and turns back into a wooden boy.

45:52

A wooden puppet.

45:57

You don't have to like it.

46:00

I really didn't like...

46:02

I really didn't like.

46:03

I was surprised at the end to realize how attached I was to Pinocchio,

46:08

the wooden puppet.

46:09

Because I really did not like seeing his ears not off like that.

46:15

Or ripped off too.

46:16

The donkey ears are ripped off.

46:18

Yeah, they're ripped off and there's just those sharp edges.

46:21

The sharp edges.

46:22

Don't you think that his ears should be deformed?

46:24

Like, he should have like cauliflower ears when he turns into a boy because of that?

46:29

Because at the end, they make like at the end, it feels like someone goes,

46:33

yeah, what happened to all those boys who returned to donkeys?

46:35

And the narrator prickly was like,

46:36

oh yeah, they all got fixed.

46:39

Wow.

46:40

Where was the serum?

46:42

We didn't see that scene.

46:43

I saw a donkey walking with Pinocchio and that donkey is going to live.

46:48

I feel like those boys did not turn back into humans.

46:51

But they just are glossing over that.

46:52

Hey, you win some, you lose some.

46:56

I mean, this reminds me of the story my grandmother used to tell.

46:59

Oh God.

47:01

Let's all prepare ourselves.

47:03

My grandmother used to tell me this story when I was a kid

47:10

that I needed to lock the door to my house.

47:13

Because when she lived in Garden City, this is where my grandmother lived in New York.

47:17

She's like, when I lived in Garden City, there was a little boy and he didn't lock his door.

47:22

And one day, he was in his bed.

47:27

I already know this is deeply irresponsible of her, of her to have said.

47:33

And he heard footsteps coming up the stairs.

47:36

Slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly.

47:40

And then he got really nervous and he got under his bed.

47:43

And he was under the sheets and the door opened,

47:46

creak it out.

47:47

And then the boy looked and it was the local butcher.

47:50

And he got scared.

47:52

And then all of a sudden the butcher grabbed him.

47:55

And the mom came home.

47:57

The boy wasn't there.

47:58

She brought him or chopped me.

48:00

No, Paul, stop.

48:04

Stop it right now.

48:06

What are you talking about?

48:07

Paul.

48:08

You're grimp?

48:09

What?

48:10

And what?

48:12

And the mother?

48:13

What?

48:13

Are you talking about?

48:15

And then as the mother was making hamburgers for her son,

48:20

she started making hamburgers that the hamburger meat started saying,

48:22

Mama?

48:23

No!

48:27

Wait.

48:28

Paul.

48:28

Shut up now.

48:30

The meat knew?

48:32

Because the meat was the boy.

48:34

The meat, but the, but that again, that's, no,

48:37

once it's turned into meat, the kid wouldn't know.

48:40

At that point it's just meat, you know?

48:47

I am real.

48:49

I am shaken on my insides.

48:52

My grandmother was a part of the cricket union,

48:54

so I will put that out there.

48:55

What are you talking about?

48:59

Every step of that story is fundamentally irresponsible.

49:05

And I told you a much abbreviated version of it.

49:09

That the butcher came so, so your grandmother lived in Garden City in an environment

49:14

where meat was so scarce,

49:17

that the local butcher would go house to house,

49:20

looking for unlocked doors and kids left alone at home.

49:25

Yep.

49:25

I was a latch kick kid.

49:26

Was this because you were a latch kick kid?

49:28

Yep.

49:29

Was this because she was trying to get you

49:32

when you came home from school before your parents came home from work to lock that door?

49:36

Yeah.

49:36

And her, yeah, I get that.

49:38

That's, and probably wasn't effective.

49:43

Did she ever hire someone in a, like,

49:46

butcher's apron with, like, to just stand outside your window, like,

49:59

shopping in those nights?

50:00

Shopping up?

50:02

Wow.

50:02

Oh, boy.

50:03

That could be the t-shirt.

50:05

As I'm telling you.

50:05

The t-shirt could be the butcher outside the window.

50:08

As I'm telling you the story,

50:10

I'm realizing that I think the element that I've messed up is that

50:15

the burger meat was already frying when the boy says it.

50:19

So the meat is, like, ready to be eaten at that point.

50:22

That's not that much worse.

50:24

It's not like, I mean, whether it's cooking or not,

50:26

the kids still been through the shop.

50:29

But I think it the addendum was, and then she did serve it.

50:33

And then she served it?

50:35

To who?

50:36

Her husband.

50:38

So they, this is starting to fall apart.

50:42

I remember, like, a boy being eaten too.

50:44

But I know that this memory of the mama, mama, like, that's where I cut off.

50:52

And I think that she may have just added that they ate him as well.

50:55

But that feels like a cruel twist at the end.

50:59

It's a total snowpiercer.

51:04

All right. Well, then, should I now tell you the second story?

51:06

Because now, as you're telling me this,

51:08

it makes me realize this.

51:10

I mean, this seems like more of, like, in good fun.

51:12

I think this is in good fun.

51:16

Wait, hamburger story was in good fun.

51:18

No, this story I'm about to tell you, but maybe it is my perspective of it.

51:23

Um, okay.

51:25

I am changed.

51:27

This is.

51:27

I really am.

51:28

So do you ever catch Paul telling your children similar scary stories?

51:32

No, I don't really feel like I have to say, you know,

51:36

Paul is such a wonderful man.

51:39

He really is.

51:40

It's so shocking to hear these things.

51:43

Well, go ahead.

51:45

Let me tell you this story, and then you could tell me from my barometer,

51:48

say, if I'm off or not.

51:50

The first time I ever had a camping thing with my friends,

51:55

I had two friends over here put tents up in the backyard.

51:59

Before we went out there for the night,

52:01

my stepfather called us into the living room,

52:05

and said, guys, I don't want you guys camping out in the backyard

52:09

because there's a police report on TV that a serial killer just escaped.

52:14

It's a prison.

52:17

And, and he's a loose.

52:22

And they said for us to lock our doors.

52:25

But the kids came over to do camping out in the backyard.

52:29

And so we really want to camp out.

52:30

We really want to camp out.

52:31

And he's like, okay, you can camp out in the backyard.

52:37

And then we camped out in the backyard.

52:39

And then in the middle of the night,

52:41

we would hear this noise, like,

52:46

and then he would basically run into our tent and go,

52:51

and then we all got really scared.

52:55

Oh, you think?

52:57

Oh, you got real scared, huh?

52:59

And I was about eight or nine.

53:04

That is so young.

53:07

To even tell an eight or nine year old about a serial killer is insane.

53:16

To even make an eight year old aware of the concept of murder for pleasure.

53:25

Or compulsive murder to explain that is insane to three eight year olds.

53:31

Never mind.

53:32

Then represent yourself as that serial killer.

53:36

Throughout those kids are somewhere telling this story right now.

53:40

I didn't remember that until right now, but I always thought that was a fun,

53:43

a fun night, a fun camping night.

53:48

Was your stepfather Ted Bundy?

53:52

Kind of.

54:02

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55:14

How did this go?

55:15

Maybe we should go into the oven.

55:16

Yeah, I'm gonna start playing.

55:19

We need a palette cleanser.

55:21

All right, but before we do, I'm gonna put on my special hat.

55:27

I'll hold the mic hat.

55:29

This is just so...

55:30

Can we get a house lights?

55:32

All right, so here we go.

55:34

Um, I want you to introduce yourself with your Italian name.

55:39

We heard a lot of great Italian names here tonight.

55:41

So introduce yourself with your Italian name, and let me hear your question.

55:44

Yes, you ma'am.

55:45

Come over here.

55:45

What's your Italian name and what's your question?

55:48

Here we go, all right.

55:48

Justino.

55:49

Great.

55:50

And your question.

55:51

My question is, when Jepetto created that puppet inside the monster

55:57

with like the spare fish, parks, and eyeballs,

55:59

what did he use to keep it together?

56:02

Fish and wire.

56:04

Fish and lime.

56:06

But by the way...

56:07

That fish boy come to life.

56:08

But by the way, that monster had only been alive for minutes,

56:14

because he drank the water, his eyes bugged out,

56:18

and I guess like his inner creature was a giant whale seam.

56:24

I mean, that was a bizarre connection.

56:26

It should have been like a rat or something.

56:27

Yeah.

56:28

All right, we're up here in the balcony,

56:30

with someone wearing a How Dare You shirt.

56:34

It's a June homemade shirt.

56:36

It says How Dare You.

56:39

From our drop dead friend episode,

56:43

your name and Italian, your affiliation, and your question.

56:46

My legit Italian name is Nicolet Isabella Soma Cacciano.

56:54

I'm a team sanity.

56:56

Oh!

56:58

Actually, the shirt is for the late show.

57:00

Okay, got it.

57:02

Yeah.

57:03

So my question comment,

57:05

so everybody, you know, you've been saying that everyone

57:09

doesn't really see Pinocchio as a puppet,

57:13

except Don French, the baker's wife.

57:17

She's the only one who sees him and f**king flips out.

57:21

She's screaming, she's throwing things all over the place.

57:24

She's the only woke person in this entire movie.

57:27

Or is she not woke?

57:29

Because she sees differences and freaked out, but that's a good point.

57:33

I think, oh, see, I thought she was just mad.

57:37

I thought she was mad.

57:38

He was ruining her food.

57:40

Well, he was eating all the cream.

57:42

You know, I don't think she was a grade of Pinocchio.

57:45

I think she was upset that he was ruining all the food she'd made for the wedding.

57:50

Wasn't that it?

57:50

She's saying get out of here, you know,

57:53

or whatever.

57:54

I feel like I also thought she was like,

57:55

this is a creature.

57:56

I'm scared of this creature.

57:58

I must kill it.

57:59

I feel like if it was a boy,

58:01

she wouldn't be throwing pots at its head.

58:04

I don't know.

58:04

I think she probably would.

58:06

I mean, she's, remember, she's Italian.

58:10

Fair point.

58:11

Sir, your name, your affiliation, your question.

58:14

My name is a Gregory.

58:18

Great Italian name.

58:19

Team Sanity.

58:20

You don't think it's Frigorio?

58:23

My question is since nobody in this town

58:25

seems to be able to tell the difference between a boy and a puppet,

58:29

why wouldn't the guy just hire boys to be in his show?

58:37

Great question.

58:40

Finally getting somewhere with the balcony.

58:43

All right.

58:48

Because, I mean, the simple answer is,

58:52

well, Pinocchio does look...

58:53

Well, yeah, I guess no.

58:54

I guess...

58:56

They are...

58:57

In the main area in that show.

58:58

Yeah.

58:59

They're talking about all of a sudden,

59:00

they're children.

59:01

Yeah.

59:02

And what type of strings do there are?

59:03

Oh, yeah.

59:04

We're not gonna have to get up to our team, Sanity.

59:06

You think that it's okay to just tie strings to kids arms?

59:10

Oh, no, no, no.

59:11

You're right, Jason.

59:12

There's a lot of...

59:12

This guy really cared about the kids.

59:14

That's why you turn them into donkeys to skin them.

59:18

Hey, they're making me...

59:19

Italy needs skin.

59:22

Things...

59:24

All right, man, how about your question?

59:27

Your name, your affiliation, your question.

59:29

Okay, my name is Milan.

59:31

Didn't make that up.

59:33

Team Sanity.

59:34

Okay, great.

59:34

Thank you.

59:37

So, my question is, at the end of the movie,

59:39

they say that the donkeys turn back to kids

59:41

based on doing good deeds.

59:43

How do donkeys do good deeds?

59:52

Yeah.

59:59

I mean, come on.

1:00:00

Donkeys can do good deeds all the time.

1:00:03

Donkeys, they can pull the cards at a soup kitchen.

1:00:06

Yeah, I mean donkeys, I think of donkeys as worker animals.

1:00:11

Didn't donkeys do a lot of good deeds in the Shrek movies?

1:00:14

Yeah.

1:00:16

To answer your question, team Sanity, lots of ways.

1:00:19

Because here's what I think.

1:00:20

When I look at donkeys,

1:00:21

I don't think their net energy is negative.

1:00:24

They are capable of positive actions.

1:00:27

Maybe it's team Sanity thinking that things donkeys can only be bad.

1:00:33

Man, your name, your affiliation, your question.

1:00:37

Checkling.

1:00:38

Great.

1:00:38

Thank you.

1:00:40

Can we talk about the point of view shots from Pinocchio

1:00:42

where he's basically like a serial killer shot?

1:00:46

Was it like Friday the 13th inspired?

1:00:49

It was frightening.

1:00:50

A lot of the CG characters had point of view shots in order to make them cheaper.

1:00:58

It's cheaper shoot point if you shot them to have the CG shots of them doing stuff.

1:01:04

So they would do that a lot and it was, I agree, it was very unsettling.

1:01:08

All right, everybody, clearly we had opinions about this movie.

1:01:12

But now it is time for...

1:01:13

Why do I feel like you guys are part of an Acapella singing group?

1:01:18

Now it's time for...

1:01:18

There's a pit pipe!

1:01:22

I fucking called it!

1:01:27

I'm really, really getting told to get off stage.

1:01:30

Here we go.

1:01:30

Now it's time for second opinions.

1:01:49

Amazing!

1:01:52

You have a glimpse!

1:01:54

Melissa, Ashley and James!

1:02:01

These are five star opinions called from Amazon.

1:02:05

There were 69.

1:02:10

Total reviews for the film.

1:02:12

67 five star reviews.

1:02:16

And here we go.

1:02:18

This is all compiled by Nate Kylie.

1:02:21

This one starts off from Marianne Fideli.

1:02:25

She goes, it's what I wanted.

1:02:27

Five stars.

1:02:34

She needs to be on a watch list of some sort.

1:02:38

Well, you read these.

1:02:39

Can you go back to the preferred Pinocchio image please?

1:02:42

I'm saying right here, I'm waiting for my mirror.

1:02:45

Your papa one.

1:02:47

All right.

1:02:51

This one just so you can remember,

1:02:54

this is the movie the person wrote the review about.

1:03:00

This one is written by Cheryl.

1:03:03

It says this.

1:03:06

This is an unusual production of Pinocchio.

1:03:09

You think?

1:03:10

My teenage son said it gave him nightmares.

1:03:13

Five stars.

1:03:18

Okay, I don't think she understood this the rating system.

1:03:21

That's a mom, that's a mom who parents like your grandmother.

1:03:27

Georgia, Galerie writes,

1:03:29

a must buy for children and child daycare centers.

1:03:34

Five stars.

1:03:36

I don't think we should be putting this in the child daycare center.

1:03:40

Um, this one, uh, this one is from Linda S. Kaufman.

1:03:45

She writes,

1:03:46

my sister's granddaughter loves it.

1:03:48

Five stars.

1:03:50

Kind of a delayed.

1:03:52

All right, sure.

1:03:52

What should I do today?

1:03:54

I should write Amazon reviews for my niece's favorite movies.

1:04:00

Or my grand niece.

1:04:01

And we will end on this one by A. Harenberg, which writes this.

1:04:06

Kids films nowadays are pillow soft when it comes to scary moments.

1:04:10

But this movie was dropped like a ton of bricks on 90s kids.

1:04:16

Pinocchio's story pretty much follows the course of a classic fairy tale,

1:04:20

starting out whimsical before taking a dark turn.

1:04:23

And I mean seriously dark.

1:04:27

I wasn't terrified as a kid,

1:04:29

but I'm willing to bet others in the two to six-year-old crowd were petrified.

1:04:34

Two?

1:04:39

Five mother fucking stars.

1:04:43

Oh boy.

1:04:48

Before, um, before we get into whether or not we'd recommend this movie,

1:04:53

because I think it's pretty clear, um, what we think about this movie.

1:04:57

I wanted to bring up this little uh, piece of trivia that I found about it, which is, um,

1:05:04

April Halley, our producer in the show, she finds all these movies she found this terror

1:05:08

night'scape for you.

1:05:09

Also found that this, uh,

1:05:13

movie spun off a CD-ROM interactive video game, starring one of the stars of Ladybugs.

1:05:21

And I just wanted to show you, this is the girl from Ladybugs, if you remember.

1:05:26

So here is-

1:05:28

She was the one that Rodney Dangerfield is like, don't worry,

1:05:32

when you get older you're gonna be pretty and everybody's gonna like you or something like that.

1:05:35

Yes, exactly.

1:05:36

So now here's- you are the new Pinocchio, Martin Landau talks, do you like this?

1:05:42

How are you going to be able to find Pinocchio?

1:05:46

You're not even made the wood.

1:05:48

We'll help.

1:05:50

So you get to follow along with her and then this is where it gets terrifying.

1:05:54

At the end of the game, when she's talking to the donkey boys.

1:05:57

Oh, turn this off right now.

1:05:59

No.

1:06:00

And he's trick.

1:06:01

If he gets you to act like a jackass.

1:06:04

Yes.

1:06:04

Then he turns you into jackass.

1:06:08

It could never happen to me.

1:06:13

It just did.

1:06:18

This game is straight up terrifying.

1:06:21

That's a game.

1:06:23

That is a CD-ROM interactive game that just took out all the choices.

1:06:27

And by the way, this movie throws around the word jackass a lot

1:06:32

for a kid's film.

1:06:34

Some notes-

1:06:35

And is it like a jerk off game?

1:06:39

Asking for a friend.

1:06:41

The movie came out in 1996.

1:06:44

The tagline was, it's a new angle on a classic tale and that's no lie.

1:06:51

And here's the thing, the budget for this movie.

1:06:54

$25 million.

1:06:57

What year?

1:06:58

96.

1:06:59

Wow.

1:07:00

Opening weekend.

1:07:02

She's three.

1:07:03

0.8 million.

1:07:06

Wow.

1:07:06

It came in.

1:07:07

By the way, that's not nothing.

1:07:09

No, you know, this is like, you know.

1:07:11

I think the people probably want to go see JTT is at the height of JTT madness.

1:07:15

The movie came in 100 out of all the movies made in 1996.

1:07:19

The top three were Independence Day, Twister, Mission Impossible.

1:07:23

It was beaten by Jingle all the way, Dragonheart,

1:07:26

the island of Dr. Marrow, Escape from LA, the quest, the glimmer man,

1:07:30

Kazam, and the Phantom.

1:07:33

But it beat Barbwire and Lon Moore Man 2, which we didn't cover on this show.

1:07:38

But that's a little fact about it.

1:07:41

Wait, there was a Lon Moore Man sequel?

1:07:43

Yep, Lon Moore Man 2, Beyond Cyber Space.

1:07:48

Jesus Christ.

1:07:50

Jason June, I go to you now, would you recommend this movie?

1:07:56

Of course not.

1:07:57

No.

1:07:58

No, you didn't think it's interesting to watch a little bit.

1:08:02

I don't.

1:08:03

Yeah, no.

1:08:03

I didn't care for it, and it was not fun enough.

1:08:07

Yeah, I mean, I have to spend time erasing some images, images and imagery that I saw.

1:08:15

Now to be fair, after this scene, I came and went to sleep.

1:08:21

The scene, of course, Jason's referring to as a Pinocchio has cream all over his mouth.

1:08:26

That's what we have is our still frame for the whole show.

1:08:30

This visual.

1:08:31

What I want to just point out, you can search this picture at home.

1:08:34

If you type in Pinocchio image, this normally comes up.

1:08:38

This is not a shot that someone took.

1:08:40

This is a press photo for the movie.

1:08:42

No.

1:08:43

Yes, that's why it has the watermarking on it.

1:08:46

So someone thought that this representation of an open mouth Pinocchio was white cream all over his mouth was the right way to.

1:08:55

This leads me to believe there was a cut of this movie that was a porno.

1:09:01

That like when Pinocchio would leave Martin Landau, you would get up into like sexy Italian adventures.

1:09:08

By the way, this puppet took nine months to create and operate it by 12 different technicians.

1:09:15

12 different people to control this masterpiece.

1:09:18

I didn't like the scene, I'm sorry, I'm just noticing a few things.

1:09:23

I did not like when the wood started to turn into flesh.

1:09:29

I thought that was very creepy and unsettling to look at.

1:09:34

Yeah, at that point it was a relief because it was almost you knew it was going to be over.

1:09:39

And the tear goes and yeah, I don't like that.

1:09:45

Yeah, it's just like yeah.

1:09:48

And by the way, when he does turn into a real boy, that version of the puppet looks just like Jonathan Taylor, Thomas.

1:09:54

Like for a second, you see it.

1:09:55

Well, it is.

1:09:56

Jonathan Taylor, Thomas.

1:09:58

But no, like right before, like when it's like this, you'll see it like that.

1:10:03

Like yeah, he looks closer to him.

1:10:04

Oh, I see, I see.

1:10:06

Maybe that was a little CG.

1:10:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:10:07

I don't know if I would recommend this movie either, but it's so bizarre and so

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you don't know if you would.

1:10:15

I feel like there are some choice nuggets in here that are worth like watching because it just

1:10:20

keeps on going.

1:10:21

It's a movie that when I would turn away for just merely like two or three seconds,

1:10:25

I was completely lost as if like hours had passed and it's like, so now what's happening?

1:10:31

It's like game.

1:10:32

We had to we watched it together and we had to recap

1:10:36

scenes over and over again.

1:10:38

We simply were losing the thread.

1:10:41

I want to be clear for this audience here and the one at home.

1:10:45

You would not recommend watching Drop Dead Fred, but you would recommend watching

1:10:50

the Adventures of Pinocchio.

1:10:53

First of all, this is a classic team sanity point.

1:10:56

First of all, I don't think that I ever went on record and said I would not recommend

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watching Team Fred.

1:11:02

I just said it's not a good movie.

1:11:03

Anyway, people, that show was a lot of fun.

1:11:07

And now we have to wrap it up.

1:11:10

We have to say no, it was between us and Drop Dead Fred.

1:11:14

I'd say watch this.

1:11:15

Yes.

1:11:15

Wow.

1:11:16

Come on now.

1:11:17

So, okay.

1:11:19

I know it's all fun.

1:11:20

I know it's fun to have a friendly rivalry.

1:11:22

There's a lot of energy around it.

1:11:24

It's a good time, but seriously.

1:11:28

No, I would watch Drop Dead Fred over there.

1:11:30

That's sad.

1:11:32

Just for the pain.

1:11:33

This is scarred me on a deep, deep level.

1:11:38

All right, so Jason, June, we have done it.

1:11:43

We have had many adventures with this Pinocchio character.

1:11:46

And there's one last thing for us to do.

1:11:48

That it's a say good night.

1:11:51

Thank you, Chicago.

1:11:55

Hey, everybody.

1:11:55

That is our show live from Chicago.

1:11:58

So, whoo boy, that was a big one.

1:12:00

We are continuing the conversation about Pinocchio

1:12:03

and it does need to continue on the mini episode,

1:12:06

which will be next week.

1:12:07

And I implore you, I urge you to check in

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on what we're doing on the mini episodes.

1:12:12

I see that the listenership is going up.

1:12:14

And I'm loving it.

1:12:15

And we're doing more and new different stuff.

1:12:17

And one of the best parts about it is not only talking

1:12:19

about the movie that we are talking about on the episode.

1:12:22

This course will be Pinocchio next week.

1:12:24

But we're all talking about you.

1:12:25

I'm getting here about all of your

1:12:28

your jobs, your love, your life.

1:12:29

I'm giving you advice along with Devon and Cody.

1:12:32

We're breaking it all down for you.

1:12:34

So, head on over to the mini episode next week

1:12:36

to continue the conversation about Pinocchio.

1:12:38

And if you want to call in,

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you can at 619 Paul Ask.

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That's 619 P-A-U-L-A-S-K.

1:12:46

So, continue the conversation about Pinocchio right there.

1:12:48

Also, I want to let you know that Grayson Frankie,

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season six is on Netflix right now.

1:12:53

If you've not watched a good place,

1:12:54

well, you're missing out on Jason and I.

1:12:56

It's the final season and a great season at that.

1:12:59

So many great appearances and what an amazing finale

1:13:03

this past week.

1:13:03

So, if you've missed out, catch up.

1:13:06

You are going to see some of us on there.

1:13:09

Also, what else do I want to tell you?

1:13:10

Oh, boy, so much good stuff.

1:13:12

Black Monday season two trailer dropped.

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So, that's online right now.

1:13:15

Check that out.

1:13:16

It's really funny.

1:13:17

It gives you a little taste of what you're in store

1:13:19

for in Black Monday season two,

1:13:20

which starts March 15th.

1:13:23

A big shout out and thank you to April,

1:13:25

Hally, one of our producers for pulling this amazing movie.

1:13:28

I mean, she really opened our eyes to a lot of stuff.

1:13:31

Nick Kiley, if you're doing all that amazing research,

1:13:33

Devin, of course, who travels across country with us,

1:13:36

our producer Cody here at Yourwolf Studios,

1:13:40

everybody at Earwolf,

1:13:41

and we will see you next week for a mini episode.

1:13:45

And if you're bored or you've missed,

1:13:47

how did this get made in the meantime?

1:13:48

We'll head on over to tepubble.com,

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slash stores, slash HDTGM to get your official Pinocchio shirt.

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And if you really just want to reach out and chat,

1:13:56

you can do that with me.

1:13:57

You can give me a call at or not call a text, please.

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Just a text.

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