#MeToo Hits Congress, Again
2026-04-15 07:30:00 • 25:49
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On today's show, a new report says the global economic outlook is not looking great.
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he'd teleport into a waffle house.
And as a surprise, he says he doesn't know anything about it or the official.
But let's start with Congress, and it's ongoing epidemic of sexual misconduct.
Two members of Congress step down on Tuesday.
Texas Republican Representative Tony Gonzalez and California Democratic Representative Eric
Swalwell.
Here is a clerk of the House of Representatives reading their resignation statements.
In close as my resignation letter to Texas Governor Greg Abbott, effective April 14th,
2026 at 11.59 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
It has been my privilege to serve the residents of Texas's 23rd Congressional District,
Science and Serially, Tony Gonzalez, member of Congress.
I plan to resign my seat and Congress effective at 2 p.m. Eastern Time on April 14th, 2026.
I will work with my staff in the coming days to ensure they are able and my absence to
serve the needs of the good people of the 14th Congressional District, Science and Serially,
Eric Swalwell.
Gonzalez and Swalwell differ in almost every single way.
Gonzalez was endorsed for re-election by Trump.
Swalwell was one of the loudest voices opposing Trump.
Gonzalez dropped out of his re-election campaign weeks ago, while Swalwell was one of
the top candidates in the California gubernatorial primary until this past weekend.
But they share one horrible commonality.
Both men have been accused of sexual misconduct.
Gonzalez and Swalwell were accused of sexual misconduct by former staffers.
Swalwell is also accused of sexual assault, and other women have come forward.
He is denied the allegations.
I've been writing about politics for more than a decade now, and that means I've been
covering sexual misconduct in politics for more than a decade.
Sexual assault by politicians seems almost endemic to me.
Over and over, we see powerful people in politics, typically men, use their power to take
advantage of others in dangerous and abusive ways.
And, as we know, it goes all the way to the top.
The president of the United States himself was found liable for sexual abuse in 2023.
So why does this keep happening?
And what about Congress might be making it more difficult for survivors to come forward?
To find out, I spoke to Moira Donigan.
She's a columnist covering gender and politics at the Guardian.
Moira, welcome to What Today.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's great to be here.
We are almost ten years removed from me too.
And up until now, it's felt like not much permanently changed.
We've seen kind of a backlash, and then a backlash to the backlash.
It's been weird.
But this week, we saw two representatives, Tony Gonzalez of Texas and Eric Swahwell of
California, resign over allegations of sexual misconduct and harassment that have been
circling for weeks.
What do you think changed?
You know, I think there is a sense that me too is a reflection of exasperation, right?
These sort of politicized moments of sexual violence return when people are outraged by
impunity, right?
And there's been a lot of sort of simmering attention to the issue of sexual violence,
particularly among elites in the wake of the Epstein scandal.
And as people, you know, confront both the extent of complicity in Epstein's alleged crimes
and the sort of pervasive impunity, I think there has been sort of a wearing down of
patients.
And what you saw when these allegations about Swahwell came out really just over the past few
days is a sort of confrontation with the reality of the pervasiveness of this issue and a lack
of patients.
And I think this is interesting that it redounded also to Tony Gonzalez, whose alleged misconduct
has been public in the popular media for much longer, but who had managed to hold on to
his seat in Congress until just this week.
Swahwell and Gonzalez are not the only politicians in Congress with allegations against them.
Speaker Mike Johnson said Tuesday that he will be, quote, looking into the House investigation
of Republican Representative Cory Mills, who has been accused of sexual misconduct a bunch
of other things.
But here's my question for you.
What do you think it says that serious accusations of sexual misconduct are treated like tit-for-tat
political fodder?
Like, well, you get rid of one of yours.
We might get rid of one of ours.
Yeah, you know, it's very conspicuous that Swahwell's resignation seems to have been what prompted
the Republicans to finally cut Tony Gonzalez loose.
You know, and I think there is something a bit disperiding about this kind of mutual weaponization
of sexual abuse by each side of the political rivalry, right?
It seems as if it's less opposed to, on principle, than deployed as a tool against one's political
enemies in a kind of cynical or even opportunistic manner.
And I think what the challenge will be for feminists and for those of us who are, you know,
committed to a principled opposition to rape and violence, will be to try and make this
into a principle that can be applied, even when it's not particularly politically convenient
or that will be applied, that people tend to apply both to their own side and to their
opponents.
What did I spoke with two Democratic House aides, one current and one former about the allegations
against Swahwell and Gonzalez?
And they indicated there could be more members accused of misconduct, which does not surprise
me at all.
You and I have been writing about and talking about this issue for a long time.
I remember I wrote a piece about the Judgment Fund, which helps to fund sexual harassment
lawsuits in Congress.
I was in 2017.
That was a story about former Michigan representative John Conniers.
That was in political terms, that was 10,000 years ago.
And this keeps happening.
This is not new.
If you go back to the 1970s and 1980s, Congress was in some ways worse and grosser.
But what do you think it says about the culture of Congress?
And you as politics as a whole that this kind of toxic power dynamic is still so prevalent?
Like the stories from Swahwell's accusers sound so familiar.
And that familiarity horrifies me, Moria.
It genuinely horrifies me.
You know, Jay, I wish it was just the culture of Congress.
I wish there was something perverse about this one institution uniquely that made these
abuses happen there and nowhere else.
But I think what really happens is that these kinds of abuses happen everywhere where there
is unchecked power everywhere where there are men with a lot of people relying on them
who have women who are proximate and vulnerable.
I think this is something that we saw in me too that this happens in the media, that
it happens in Hollywood.
We see that it happens in tech that it happens in fast food.
This is a broad culture wide pathology of abusive power of a broadest-size domination
and of exploitation, largely of women by men.
And I think that it is interesting that these abuses are so bipartisan and that they are
sort of pushing on fractures that are emerging within partisan coalitions, right?
So the Swahwell allegations and his subsequent resignation have really disrupted the California
governor's race where there is an open bipartisan primary in which the two leading contenders
will advance the general election in the fall.
Swahwell looked to be until just as we can as if he would be the front runner in that
election.
And now it's anybody's race.
You know, Katie Porter has a much better chance.
Tom Sire has a much better chance on their Republican side.
You see the Epstein allegations, oiling the Maga coalition, not just because of Trump's
populist and anti-alete messaging that is somewhat undermined by his connections to Jeffrey
Epstein, but also because of an interestingly politicized right-wing grievance against sexual
exploitation from the likes of Nancy Mays, who has been very vocal on this issue.
And her attempt to add some public disclosure and transparency to these congressional
funds for distributing sexual harassment settlements, that got shot down just last month
in a really broadly bipartisan vote, right?
So there's forces both in Congress and sort of across our culture that are both sort
of pushing against this pervasive impunity for sexual violence and also sort of arraying
to protect entrenched interests.
It's not always who you would expect that is lining up on each side of this issue.
Politics has the added element of people who are working within it, believing, hoping,
maybe, that they are contributing to something that will make the country better.
Do you think that that contributes to that culture where it's not just a member of Congress,
it's a member of Congress who maybe is working on an issue you care a lot about?
And does that change how people think about these allegations or think about how this can
happen when it's not just of this person is super famous and super powerful?
It's also this person could make sure everyone gets health care or could ensure reproductive
rights access in my state.
They are also, apparently, a sexual predator.
Yeah, I think this is something that really influences both the way that broad audiences
interpret these allegations.
And also the way that victims interpret their own set of responsibilities and either coming
forward or deciding not to report and disclose.
You saw just very recently the case of Dolores Huerta, the leader of the farm workers movement
who recounted her own rape by Cesar Chavez and said that she did not want to come forward
at the time because she thought it would endanger the cause to which she had devoted her life.
I think this is a pervasive feature of sexual abuse in sort of mission-oriented workplaces.
And in the case of somebody like Eric Swalwell, I think this also impacts the way that party
insiders and voters and those who are really invested in the Democratic Party or in the
struggle against Trumpism are understanding this.
There really is something that we lose when somebody like Eric Swalwell, who was for
all his faults, a talented anti-Trump surrogate on cable news, a very ambitious public facing,
an active guy who was useful in some ways to the anti-Trump political movement in the US.
But I think it would be incomplete to talk about that loss without also considering the
loss of these women who are degraded or humiliated or hurt or abused or otherwise not allowed
to thrive in their own talents because of these kinds of abuses that they encounter in their
fields.
Somehow at the same time, Harvey Weinstein is back in court this week.
He's being retried for a rape case in New York City for the third time.
So I have to ask, there have been a lot of criticisms of me too, and some of those I think
have been pretty not helpful.
The idea of it going too far, going after the wrong people, whatever.
But it does say something to me that we're in a moment in which Harvey Weinstein, this
is the third time people have been trying to get justice for what he allegedly did.
And it's been nearly 10 years.
What do you think that says about what me too could not get done?
Yeah, me too was in many ways like sort of a speech movement, right?
It was about making speakable realities and experiences that had been excluded from
official reality, right, from the official public reckoning of what people did and what
our histories contain.
What they could not do was undo a millennia of patriarchal conditioning around sexual
violence.
What they could not do is rewrite these institutional habits that give a lot of deference to sexual
abusers in particular and to wealthy sexual abusers, especially.
What they could not do is erase the ability of the likes of Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby,
whose conviction was also overturned, to purchase their way out of accountability, right?
There's much broader structures of corruption, of institutional complicity, and of societal
misogyny that have entrenched these outcomes.
And to get rid of those, I think is a much, much bigger project.
Moira, thank you so much for taking the time to join me.
Thank you for having me, Jane.
It was a pleasure.
That was my conversation with Moira Donigan, columnist for the Guardian.
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Hey, Jay.
Matt, the world's economic outlook is looking grim thanks to Trump's war in Iran.
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that hey, it could be worse.
While it's very frustrating to go with the pump and see what the price of gasoline looks
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crisis.
We're learning new things all the time.
But the bottom line is Donald Trump's war with Iran is hurting countries around the world.
And yes, that includes the United States.
Right.
The global economy could even slide into recession if the war continues according to a
report released by the International Monetary Fund on Tuesday.
The report also says that the global economic outlook was actually looking steady before
Trump bombed Iran, which is wild, given the tariffs and everything else.
Yet now even the best case scenario looks.
Grim the IMF predicts that global growth could fall to 3.1% this year down from 3.4% in
2025.
And has is not the only Trump official who is downplaying the toll that the war is taking
on the US economy.
Speaking at an event hosted by semiforon Tuesday, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said quote,
the conflict will end.
Prices will come down and then headline inflation will come down.
Matt, you know, I have this rule.
Whatever Scott Besson says, I assume the exact opposite.
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where Elon Musk swung a chainsaw over his head last year.
To be clear, Mazar said Orbán's government gave the money, but CPAC told Politico that
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Highlighting such stars as one of former Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro's sons and Maryland
Republican Congressman Andy Harris and a far right Hungarian journalist who is super
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It's not the first time the right has fallen in love with a right wing government, Matt,
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It was also money.
Yeah.
Hungry's politics are pretty intense in America's R2, but America's these days are just
downright strange.
Take for example, in the case of Greg Phillips, he's the federal emergency manager.
He's been agency official in charge of disaster response.
He's also apparently totally delusional.
You might be familiar with him after CNN uncovered a podcast from last year in which he said
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Here's a clip from that podcast.
It was scary in a way.
I mean, you know, you don't really know, okay, is this evil?
Is this good?
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You know, what do I do with this?
How do I deal with it?
I was on the phone.
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What's happening?
CNN got Trump on the phone to talk about that on Thursday and he did not seem sold on
the possibilities of teleportation.
That's an amazing sentence.
And no, he did not.
Quote.
Was he kidding?
Trump asked CNN when told about Phillips claim he added, quote, it just sounds a little
strange, but I know nothing about teleporting or him, but I'll find out about it right
now.
One of my favorite Trump things is that if you do something, he doesn't like, he will
completely Mariah Carey you.
He doesn't know him.
He has no idea who he is.
Who is this guy anyway?
And hilariously, the New York Times did the like work and went to the waffle house where
this man claimed to have teleported to.
And no employees or regulars at that location.
Remember anyone teleporting there.
Though stumbling into waffle house after a long night does feel a lot like teleportation.
That is objectively true.
But Phillips has said some even weirder things on podcasts, according to CNN.
Do you want to hear them, Jane?
I don't, but I do.
So go ahead.
All right.
Yeah, well, here we go.
He claimed that God sat on his bed and died, no, son, with cancer.
He said that he's on earth to do God's work, but that he's quote, actually dead.
And he said that his deceased girlfriend lifted his car off the road to help him avoid
a car crash.
How sweet, I guess.
Well, I sure hope that when a natural disaster hits, this guy can find a way to teleport to
my house.
Or actually, I would really prefer someone more qualified than him.
Thanks, Matt.
Thanks for having me.
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