‘Beef’ Season 2 E1-3: A Prime Cut of Chaos

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Hello, welcome back to the Prestige TV podcast.

I'm Jorda Robinson.

I'm Rob Mahoney.

And this is a very busy week for the Prestige TV feed Rob Mahoney.

We're going on.

We're here to talk about the Netflix series Beef, episodes 1 through episode 3.

Yes.

So if you've not watched episodes 1 through episode 3, we recommend you watch it before you listen

to us talk about it.

But we also know that some of you just listen to us talk about shows you're not watching.

And that is your progative if you want to do that.

But beef's a great show so you should watch episodes 1 through episode 3 before we start.

I feel like that is an acceptable dietary allotment of beef, right?

Three episodes feels reasonable for people to lock in.

Triple, triple patty on a burger.

Maybe a little less than that.

Triple, triple maybe a little intense.

That's a lot.

Okay.

This is how we're dividing the season.

So if you're listening to this on Friday, the finale episode already dropped.

So that already happened.

The euphoria episode 2 podcast will be coming in the

sometime next week.

And then we will have beef episodes 4, 5, and 6.

And then at last, we'll have beef episode 7 and 8,

the two final episodes.

And that's it for the season.

So 3 podcast episodes about 1, 8 episodes season of television that's dropping as

as a binge on Netflix.

What could be easier to understand?

Don't you love to binge?

I hate to binge.

Which of these three beef podcasts will be most unhinged from us?

Do you think it'll be here at the start?

Do you think we'll like Empire Strikes Back in the middle?

Are we just going to go fully unraveled by the end of it?

It's Rise of Skywalker Time for a Sideway.

Stay tuned for the day.

Somehow Steven Young returns for the finale.

Oh my god, I would love that.

Honestly.

Okay.

So here's what we're here to talk about.

Episode 1.

All the things we're never going to have.

Written by Lucing Gin.

Episode 2.

A new starting point for further desires.

Written by Anna Munch and Lieseng Gin.

Episode 3.

The increasing flimsyness of any certainties about the future.

Written by Lieseng Gin.

Anna Munch and Jean Hong.

And all directed by Jake Shreyer.

Justice for Thunderbolts.

I'm a huge fan.

Quite good.

Um, how do you feel about having the complete opposite of the pit titles here

with the beef episode title?

I'm quite enjoying them.

Okay.

I'm enjoying the titles.

I'm enjoying the like painting aesthetic

that we're introducing these episodes with.

Very way lotus.

It is very a way lotus, but I'm having a lot of fun.

Okay.

So we're going to have like a light general discussion about

beef as a concept,

to know the food, but the show.

And then we have categories that we've come up with.

Just like this is the best way we figured out to talk about three episodes at once

because I hate a binge drop,

but this is the best that we can do.

So just for some context, season one of beef was on Netflix three years ago.

Was it really?

Uh-huh.

Eight Emmys, including outstanding limited series and acting wins for its leads.

Halley Wong and the aforementioned Semenyun.

Both spectacular.

I love them both.

Semenyun is like one of my like top-tier all-time guys.

Like very important.

Three Golden Globes.

It was a smash all ahead.

Okay.

How did you, I know you like we did not rewatch season one before watching season two.

You don't need to.

It's a whole new cast like who cares?

Surely anthology.

But like vaguely, how did you feel about season one?

I remember being delighted by the leads.

I remember kind of like,

I've very little little recollection of the way the series actually unfolds.

It gets increasingly insane.

Yeah.

And I think my grasp on that sense of reality has slipped somehow with time.

Right.

So I remember having a nice time watching it,

but ultimately it's not a show or a series or a season that I spent a lot of time thinking

about since then.

It did feel kind of like digestible in that way.

Yeah, it's interesting.

I remember the so the screeners dropped on Netflix and since I'm such like a Semenyun head

and I love Halley Wong as well.

I watched all of them.

I was like, I don't think this show is going to be huge because it gets so weird at the end.

And then I was very wrong.

This is a smash hit.

One a bunch of awards.

So sometimes very rarely I'm wrong.

I'm wrong a lot.

But the ending I didn't really love the ending of the show.

I love the performances in the show.

I love the concept of it and the same themes and concepts are alive and awake here in season two.

In particular, like the travails of a certain kind of like comfortable suburban,

affluent lifestyle meeting with people who are scrappy and feeling exploited for various other

reasons.

Well, it's interesting because I think of season one is like the halves and the halves not.

Yeah.

Have not.

And then this season is very much like the have nots and the almost halves.

Yeah.

The pretending to have.

It's like a slightly different calibration of it.

When season one came out, there were a lot of white lotus comms.

And that's highlighted even more this season.

I would say with the country club setting.

And you know, the art we get in the opening title cards is very reminiscent of some white

lotus.

Do you was that on your mind while you're watching the season or what do you think?

I think not just because there's so much film and television these days dedicated to some

version of this topic.

So it's like it's of a world with things like white lotus, but it can't be the only

like calling card for this sort of like not even eat the rich, but interrogating the rich kind

of content.

There's a total similarity.

It's not just like the subject matter.

I think there are many ways in which beef has a lot more on its mind.

But there is a just like a dry and then like lack of self awareness in your characters aspect to

it that that feels very similar complimentary.

Like I don't think it feels like it's imitating.

It's just sort of like operating the similar milieu.

I like I love both shows.

So I'm not upset about it.

Originally,

Lee Seung-jin the creator had a three-season plan.

And this is what he said sort of originally.

There are a lot of ideas on my end to keep this story going.

I think should we be blessed with the season two.

There's a lot of ways for Danny and Amy that's Steven Young and and Ali Wong's characters

to continue.

I have one really big general idea that I can't really say yet, but I have three seasons mapped out

in my head currently.

So the original plan was keep these same characters around.

Perhaps bump some some side characters like young

masinos character up to like manners and like that.

Something else entirely is going on here.

We are completely new cast.

Oscar Isaac is here.

Carrie Mulligan is here.

Kelly Spani.

Charles Melton etc.

There are some like overlaps though.

Like I would say,

William Fickner's character Troy,

who we get a lot of in these three episodes,

is very similar to Maria Bellow's character in season one.

And I would say young masino who played uh,

Steven Young's younger brother.

I would say Charles Melton's character reminds me.

So I think there's just like ways in which I could see

this being the bones of an extension of the first season.

But we've just sort of slightly redress some of the characters.

Do you know what I mean?

I mean, it's kind of like Fargo in that way a little bit where it's like the characters are

sharing a world so much that you see these comment traits between them.

That you see the way they could just be kind of transposed on one another.

And I think a lot of the conflicts here,

yes, could come from white lotus,

yes, could come from season one of beef.

But like also just feel very true to life in a very heightened way,

admittedly.

But you can see the germ of the idea for sure.

Yeah. And we should say the way we're rolling out these episodes,

I'm, I think it won't be until the finale that we'll really get to dig into

listener emails.

But please always email us pressccv at spotify.com if you have some thoughts or feelings

or questions or comments or concerns about beef.

We would love to hear them.

We're not going to do a show specific email for this one because it's going to be here and gone.

It's going to come and go.

But how do you feel about country club and minutes fees?

How do you feel about, uh, you know, squash blossoms that have gone a little limp in your salad?

Sagi squash blossoms and jimmel.com.

Unacceptable.

Very good. Very, very good.

Originally Jake Jill and Holland and halfway were supposed to be the leads in this show.

The uh, Oscar Isaac carry Mulligan rolls.

I saw in halfway do literally this character and we crashed.

So I'm okay.

I didn't need to see it again.

Yeah.

What about Jake?

I love Jake.

Honestly, I'm a huge Jake fan.

I think Jake would have crushed this.

Oscar Isaac is fantastic.

I mean, like all the leads are fantastic in this.

But I could definitely see especially like Jake's, you know, uh,

nightcrawler intensity sort of energy in that opening, uh,

drag out fight that they have.

Even just gradually more and more unhinged country club general manager.

Yeah.

Very much in his billhouse.

I could see it, but I do think that, um, you know, there's some,

there's the show as, as did season one has some interesting things to say about like racial dynamics.

And so the fact that like both couples here are interracial couples,

which like Kaley Spani's character in episode three is like,

I've never thought of us as an interracial couple.

But like the fact that those dynamics are in play and you have things like

the character of Troy Willing Fickner's character, like speaking Spanish to Oscar Isaac's character.

I think that's like an added dynamic that you wouldn't get with

to the whitest people alive.

Jake Dylan Holland and half the way.

I didn't prep you for this question.

But do you have a favorite performance from the core four in other projects?

Oh my gosh.

I mean, it's a pretty rich text.

Buy me some time.

Where, where do you want to start?

I will say, so Kaley Spani, I am a huge fan of.

Like, I think she's one of the most talented young actors working.

I think she's phenomenal in this show.

She really blew me away in Civil War.

I thought she was like, Civil War is like,

the, and this is often the truth with like an Alex Garland joint.

But like the more time passes, the more relevant it feels and the more I think about it.

And there's a ton of heavy hitters in that movie.

And she just like really stuck out to me as she just, you know, she has this like

beautiful innocent, elfin young face.

And she's capable of these really complicated,

sometimes scheming emotions behind it that are always, always catch me off guard every time.

I mean, I think that's why her appearance in knives out, the wake of dead man one was like so

underwhelming.

She's so little to do.

And it's got to a lot of wasted potential in that movie.

But you see her in Civil War, like you see her in these various contexts.

Like, Priscilla, she also blew me away.

I think just that like interior of somebody who has that much going on,

always captivating.

I am squarely an Oscar as a guy.

He might be my steven, you know, and ultimately.

So like inside Lewin Davis feels like an almost too easy a poll.

It's kind of my answer for both Carrie Mulligan and Oscar Isaac.

I love inside Lewin Davis.

It's like my, I watch it every Christmas.

It's like, it's a holiday album that I put on is my feeling about inside Lewin Davis.

Like genuinely, I know that sounds very dark and depressing.

Just a little despair about your place in your chosen line of work and the cycles that create and

destroy you.

I think it came out at Christmas.

And so I just like every Christmas I get a hangkering for it.

I mean, the scarves and coats go lower than that.

Absolutely.

Cats shame also for Carrie Mulligan.

Incredible performance.

I did see in the junket to promote beef season two.

I don't know if you saw Oscar Isaac and Carrie Mulligan.

We're going on together.

And the fine folks that letterboxed gave them the like blank prompt of like,

this is a review of one of your movies.

Guess which one it is.

And it was a casting call looking for a sad quiet woman who has like deep trauma in her background.

And the answer to every role, apparently is Carrie Mulligan.

Turns out.

And then Charles Melton.

Yes.

Where are you?

I mean, I'm not big made.

I mean, I'm really good.

His episode of poker face.

Sure.

Also great.

I did watch him on Riverdale as well.

So I've been there for a while with with Charles Melton.

But these are for incredible performers in general.

And then like, you know, this is an 824 joint.

And we're going to talk about that.

But they are like very much in that sort of fields.

Obviously, they're incredibly good in this.

And then you know, in junk plays,

Cherwoman Park, Oscar winning, you know,

runaway star of Minari.

So this is an incredible cast.

Just like really, really, really stacked.

Really good.

But yeah, I'm really excited for folks to watch this.

I think it's so good.

I wanted to highlight something that happens in episode one that I was so impressed by.

Josh and Lindsay have this like huge, massive fight.

Where they're horrible to each other.

It's the inciting incident for the whole plot

because we get Austin and Ashley to again,

I'm just going to speak as if people haven't watched these episodes.

Because I know sometimes they don't.

Yeah.

Josh is the manager of a country club.

Lindsay, his wife is an interior designer sometimes when she wants to be.

Also a little Patrick Bayman in there.

Like this is this is ivory not bone.

Yeah, it's like, okay.

Uh, Deb was like, excuse me.

Okay.

Austin Ashley are staff at the country club.

And they come to deliver Josh's wallet to his beautiful would-be-be-be-a-be-house.

I believe we are in Ohai.

And they stumble upon this marital argument that is quite ferocious

and Ashley takes a cell phone footage of it.

And then some some drawmons who's from there.

During said fight, which is not only integral to like kicking off the whole plot,

we get so much exposition packed in there about

their relationship, their dynamics, their financial status, their hopes and dreams,

where they started and where they ended and all this sort of stuff like that.

And it is so well acted and well written and well performed that like it did.

It's the kind of thing that usually bothers me that they're packing so much

exposition into something else.

And it just like completely went down smooth as silk.

I thought it was so good.

I think the writing is really sharp, but that's pure performance to me.

Right? It's just like if you have these sorts of magnets on screen,

especially doing something big and emotional and evocative,

it's amazing how much you can sneak under the rug.

Yeah.

And setting up really the whole show on that way.

The wine so it's a glass-shard rug.

Complete.

I mean, guitar smashed by the end of it.

Yeah.

There's a lot happening in terms of the action of that moment

and certainly like inside and outside the house.

But you're just learning about these characters and their dynamics.

And I think how quickly they metabolize them, right?

Like how quickly one couple moves on from that fight.

It really in terms of the emotions of it.

And the other one's like lingering in it

because they don't know what to do with those sorts of big feelings.

A young couple at the beginning of their relationship.

Yes.

And as you know, as Lindsay later says to Austin,

like, oh, you haven't had a fight.

You need to have a fight.

You know, he's like, great.

Let's have one with Ashley.

It's really good stuff.

Anything sort of big picture theme-wise,

either in this season or across both seasons of beef that you want to call it.

Like obviously questions of class,

which we already mentioned.

Race, sex, who's having it, who's not, who's paying for it, etc.

But I think no matter what, like I think the bigger umbrella,

which is present a bit in white lotus,

but much more drilled in here is just sort of the

constant, I mean, I think it's reflected in some of the episode titles.

This is like constant restlessness of I don't have enough.

Yeah.

Or am I who I want to be?

Or is that person who I want to be?

Or how can I be that person?

The moments we get both an episode one and three of Josh seeing himself either as Troy

or as Lindsay in a photo is just really animating this idea of just sort of like,

who was I born as?

Who can I become?

What does upper mobility look like?

Is there anything,

is there ever anything that would just sort of like satisfy you inside of a system like that?

Well, I think in tying those ideas together,

just these ideas that they're playing with on the show of like,

everyone is a scammer in some respect.

And everyone also to inspire that and motivate it seems like they feel as if they are a victim

of the system, right?

Even so,

Kangho who pops up in just like a supporting capacity,

silly so far through these first three episodes,

like he gives a poor pitiful me routine about being married to an ultra wealthy woman

and also like a highly accomplished plastic surgeon in Korea.

What will happen to me if you leave me?

This is what I'm saying.

So it's like everyone has some reason why they feel like, as you said, Joe,

they don't have enough.

They're unstable.

They're always grabbing at something nearby,

even if it's their own partner,

hoping for more security.

And then some people are just like wallowing and blaming late stage capitalism

for literally everything in their life.

And this is much more than season one, a generational divide.

Yes.

We've got, as my pal who was who was watching this show talking about it,

she's just like,

elder millennials left for dead.

That's like, and we are both other elder millennials.

She's like, we're just dragged to see inside of this show.

I feel like Gen Z is maybe given a raw end.

I think they're both being, I think they're both getting in equal short shrift.

It's like, as you said, everyone's a scammer.

Yes.

Everyone's blaming the system.

And it's just, it is interesting to watch millennials

who became so accustomed to the, we were screwed by the system role.

Right.

You know, the 2008 financial crisis, like we never had a chance.

In this sort of older role of their like,

kids today have no initiative.

They're ungrateful.

They're entitled.

Like, you know, this is how the worm turns for every generation.

How does it make you feel us aging into that bracket more and more of like these are,

these are, I will say, I've never felt time so acutely as watching

Carrie Mulligan go from like the babe in the woods to now the woman who's

obsessing about every wrinkle on her face in a role like this.

But how does it hit you to for us to be kind of like parodied in such a way?

You know, so I am like a like a very cuspy elder millennial.

And I've always wanted to claim Gen X, which I can't really,

but I always wanted to because Gen X has usually left out of this conversation.

People forget Gen X exists.

And isn't that the better place to be?

I'm just sort of like leave us out of it.

But as

elder millennial, you know, and the phrase elder millennial is just tough.

That already makes you feel like you have dust in your bones.

So I like it when things, when, when you feel skewered by something,

but it's very accurate, I just, I just enjoy it.

So he said the words hot chip.

I'm like, oh, this isn't me, but I know I'm aware that I'm being pointed at.

I did think of you with the LCD.

LCD sounds.

So maybe think of you.

Yes and no.

You know, never as big in my life as maybe some other people of our generation.

I would never go as far as to say the day I saw LCD sound system was the greatest

day of my life.

I don't know.

Depends how much Molly you were on at the time.

That's really the very moment.

Absolutely.

Last but not least, something that we like to track across these shows is I think

a use of technology to tell story.

And this is a very like text message, social media app.

Right.

Heavy kind of storytelling that we're getting here.

I think they're doing a really great job.

One of my favorite iterations of it.

And they did this in a show that you didn't watch.

He did Biblery.

But is all the times that Charles Maltan's character Austin types out something and then

deletes it.

So we is an audience.

There's just like really famous scene in here.

A rivalry where at one point a character types like we didn't even kiss and then just sort

of like deletes it and it's just sort of like.

But like all the time we get a glimpse inside of Austin's actual thoughts and then it's deleted.

And then he just says something very like mild man or an anecdote.

Like I just think that that's really funny and well done.

I would pay lots of money to hear all of his thoughts.

Yeah.

Every thought in this man's head.

Yes.

I mean just a phenomenal performance.

A great character.

In plenty scenes we do.

In plenty scenes we get him just sort of rambling and you're like, oh my.

The filter is quite porous for him.

A lot is eakin out into the world.

I think what's your favorite?

I mean we have a whole Himo category for him.

But my favorite ramble has to be the sort of the

miss versus missed the speech that he gives Eunice.

That is my Himo.

I mean we'll come back to it.

Okay.

Anything else you want to say before we get into some of our categories here are super

litus.

I'm really enjoying the season so far.

I also just love kind of like the Ruben Goldberg

machinations of a show like this where it's you know there is this inciting fight

that then leads to Ashley getting this job at work that then leads to her wanting Austin

to have this PT job which then leads to Austin seeing like these memories invoices

and like connecting all of these dots and the way that we just have this like

comedy of errors type builds.

I think it's just like great TV.

It'll be interesting to see.

I haven't seen episodes.

So I have watched through episodes six just to like prep for everything we did

but we won't be talking beyond episode three but I haven't seen seven and eight

so I don't know how the season ends.

And again season one really kind of run off the rails at the end for me so I don't know

how season and eight will land on season two.

But it does move so quickly.

So like when we see Josh embezzling under his dead mother's name

you're like oh that's going to be a season like no immediately is found out and then

roped into a different embezzlement scheme.

You know I just love how quickly everything turns on this group goalberg as you put it.

Even Ashley's like I don't know all the what's happening here but this is definitely a cry.

Yeah this is definitely weird that this money is being like funneled from one place to the next

so I'm with you just the way that the breadcrumbs are followed to like very quick conclusions

and then that leads to a dramatic change in some of these other characters.

There's just I mean this is why it's beef right it's like confrontation confrontation all the time

between not just our four leads but like the Korean overlords who are running this club like

all these different elements.

I just like Ava I mean there's a piece of work Ava just just there to be like a professional hot

person I guess.

Yes I guess so good work if you can get it.

Absolutely.

All right anything else let's get into it.

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This is the beef top 13.

Accommodation of superlative is another Sunday's all right so each

characters worst decision is how we're starting we're just going to go with the four the four

mains here so for Josh what's your worst decision for Josh.

I think it's got to be the wee little embezzlement and specifically using your dead

mom's name which is just way too close to your name.

Very very close and entirely too transparent.

I will also say embezzling specifically $4,999 because it's under the limit.

It's so blatant and obvious.

Well would you go for 3,800 or something?

I think you got to mix up the amounts for one.

It can't be static.

It reminded me a lot of George Santos at that shady Italian restaurant just like rank enough

these random charges.

You got to mix it up.

Has to be a George Santos season of beef would watch.

Definitely embezzlement not a great decision.

Firing Deb I just don't think you should ever fire a Deb in general.

It's a great call.

Yeah.

She seems like she was holding that office together.

She had it all up here unfortunately.

I think that's a mistake.

Not quitting when Lindsay suggests it like that's a real of work in the road moment.

If she's like we could just quit and we would be happier if we just got off this this you know

wheel and he's like no let's keep going right.

Would that have solved as many of their problems as they in that moment belief?

No but I don't think it would have led them like barreling head first into a thicken of other

problems you know.

That's true.

How do you feel about the microballot that Josh is rocking this season?

Could anyone but Oscar Isaac pull it off?

I don't know it looks great on him but I have some questions.

Yeah it really works for him.

I mean the man can rock almost any hairstyle and or facial hair and I'm kind of on board for it

but in concept I'm skeptical.

I'm trying to figure out if there's an exception and I would say

maybe the makeup he wore as apocalypse in the X-Men movie is my one exception but

I don't know it's good that could that be his fault.

He didn't seem like he enjoyed it.

And then would you how would you

what genre would you put the podcast that he listens to in?

Is that a manosphere podcast?

I thought of it more as like an explainer foe scientific podcast but I have it for one of

other categories.

So let's let's return to the pods.

Lindsay worst decision.

I think for Lindsay it's she's not the only person involved in the fight that starts all this

but specifically the decision to pick up the golf club escalates the video in a way that

basically nothing else in the plot does.

So it's just like it's not all her faults obviously like it's taking two to tango there but

she is the guitar smasher of the two of them it seems like.

Yeah that's fair.

Who threw the wine glass first?

I think she throws it first and then he falls it but there's already glass shards let me also

throw mine.

Okay he's also holding his wine glass by the bottom which like you're supposed to do to not like

but I was just like that's a really douchey way to hold the wine glass.

I would say so we're in the mid-Sividend Bezzelman's game.

And we're embezzling in order to you know kickstart our dreams of a B&B

um the brilliantly named.

It's a very clever idea.

We're told.

Beth and Barn.

Brilliant idea.

We see as the embezzlement is going on the purchases strewn about the place and like

in theory Lindsay is sort of like figuring out how we're going like what pillows we're going to have

you know we can have 500 dollar pens we're going to have certain pens but you're looking at

some of these boxes and it's like there's a dice and there's a Louis Vuitton box and I'm like

why did you buy something from Louis Vuitton um it seems to me that Lindsay is just sort of like

the money's flowing.

Right.

I'm going to spend it.

That seems and it seems like not a great idea.

Despite her attempt to Google debt can I get alone?

She's trying to get to the bottom of it.

She's trying to refi.

Yeah.

Uh yeah there's a lot there just just the pillows alone the inventory is ridiculous and I'm with you

like the luxury like LV style stuff that is stocked there.

Doesn't seem to really fit the bed breakfast aesthetic that they might be going for.

I don't want to assume too much about her design sensibilities but at minimum we're told

they're colonial.

Very colonial.

She loves some by Jenna.

Okay.

Austin.

What's Austin's worst?

I think for Austin it is I think most of his transgressions are somewhat minor so far.

It's more just like being a dumb dumb and really delightful ways but being so weird about

the unist stuff immediately.

Lying about unist is my answer.

Right out of the gate.

And he didn't need to like you could just come home and said I gave her a session.

Yeah the chairwoman was not available so I unis he doesn't have to talk about how flexible

she was and how close.

Unusually.

Do you think they put like a is do you think that actress is that flexible or was there like a fake

lake involved in that?

I'm just going to give so young John credit that she is that flexible whether she is or not.

I'm also just like I'm dialed in on the entire unis situation in this evolving plot line.

It's so much fun like having them and specifically I mean you talked about it in terms of

the cultural balance that Austin is kind of strung here not just as an erisonian but as someone

who's like partially Korean right and having unis come into I mean look she wants to be

therapist physically right out of the gate.

Yeah he wants a job and here's the thing if it's not him lying about the unis situation it's him

agreeing to take on this like responsibility for this entire wellness center when he more than

anyone knows he's not even a physical therapist.

Without even talking to Ashley about it first his like his interesting moral you know he's like

it's wrong to buy clothes from H&M and leave the tags on and return them but I will agree to

this larger far it's wrong to forge a document saying I have a PT license but I will agree to this

$50 million dollar endeavor inside of the club.

His ethics are not airtight.

How did you feel about him dropping the term epigenetics when you start keeping

it? It's really just with the in it.

Just the endless string of things that he's saying or using incorrectly throughout these

episodes I mean I fucking love it.

It's prices.

Charles Mell he's he's so good and may December he's playing like a kind of naive and dumb for sure

but also want like a guy who knows more than he lets on and is kind of like repressing a lot.

This guy is a totally different animal and it just plays for such great comedy through

these three episodes I'm sure there will be more to it because Charles Mell is gifted in that

way but I'm having a great time.

That's not at least Ashley.

What's Ashley's worst decision?

I hate to say it but like I think Austin is right that she should have negotiated for more.

He's a little fussy because he didn't get a treat when they negotiate.

She's just not occurring to me.

I'll come this is off for you.

Yeah.

But they do have this like quite compromising video that looks terrible regardless of what the

truth of it is and she comes out of it with a 45k salary in California at a country club

10 days PTO and health insurance.

I'm sure that's like it's good but I think she could have squeezed them a little bit.

I don't yeah I don't want to be like 40 45k is nothing.

No no but like it was the health and

sharing which we will get to we have a whole category for this but like I had to google

because it was my experience when I worked minimum wage full-time jobs it was my experience at all

the like making no money bookstores that I worked out in San Francisco.

If you worked full-time yeah they had to give you health insurance.

I don't know if that like but I was google the California law.

The landscape has changed you.

We're we're contractors through and through these days.

Well yes no I mean they tried to get away with that.

They would try to hire people to be part you know many part-time workers so they didn't but like

if you were full-time which Ashley already was then like you would be she was already full-time

at the club so I was confused why she wasn't getting but I think California law I looked it up.

Yeah California law says if you have under 50 employees you don't have to give them

which is not the case in the bookstores I worked at but if you have under 50 employees you do not

have to provide health care for even your full-time workers.

Yeah fucked up.

This does seem like under 50 based on the all-hands attendance.

Yeah yeah yeah I believe that that coffee club is under 50 so thank you to all the bookstores

who gave me a health insurance when they didn't need to.

Amazing.

I appreciate you.

Yeah I were like I was a full-time employee at all the bookstores I worked at but

but most of the staff would be part-timers so that the bosses could get away with not

giving them health care which is fucked up.

Especially this kind of employee like if you're working the Bev Card on a golf course it does

seem like that specific sort of gray area where they will just nickel and dime every everything

they can get from you.

I think you want the Bev Card girls in like an ironclad HR bond traffic.

I mean that's true.

If anyone should have an NDA it's whoever's working the Bev Card.

It's the Bev Card girls by the way.

Yeah.

I I felt on a rabbit hole about this because when I was which was like several years ago during

COVID when I was still on TikTok I like found this like Bev Card girls account don't laugh at me

I've found this Bev Card girls account.

I'm glad you got clean.

I did.

I'm just on Instagram Reels now you're heavily on Instagram so you have online.

You have nothing to talk about but I found this like Bev Card girl was like had this whole

like very popular TikTok account and I was just like interested in this whole

work.

She was squeezing these guys for so much money and she would just give these like confessionals

from her cart where she would like just talk about how like she's like I put on the smallest

clothing I could possible and I squeeze these ritual guys for all this money and I get them drunk

and I take all their money and I'm like great good job girl.

Oh, too.

I love it for you.

Ashley does not want to do that and she wants something else.

Our next category is whitest white nonsense.

What was your pick for Ashley's decision?

Thanks thanks so much for asking.

I would say either getting Austin involved with a club at all so like I understand that he's

like hey what about me and she's trying to help him but like her roping him into this

is not going to be it does not seem to be turning out well for her.

No.

Or throwing herself out of a moving car.

Lady Bird again.

Lady Bird again.

Strait out of it.

And then was it uptown funk that she was like mother like

uptown funk as mantra.

A very melking sort of like soothing.

So soothing with Bruno Mars moment.

So it's like Megan the stallion I can understand where the empowerment is coming from.

Bruno.

Not so much.

All right whitest white nonsense.

This is I have a long list here.

So I think we came out of the gate pretty strong with Save the Frogs.

100% save the frog.

Save the frogs.

Gala basically at the country club.

$100,000 raised for the frogs.

Great work for the frogs.

I'm sure they really appreciate it.

But I do think the definitive answer to the whitest thing that's happening on this show

is going for a run and listening to a podcast about porn research.

That feels like about as white as it gets.

Or maybe it's just even having a man cave slash jerk off dungeon in the first place.

Right.

I mean, I think jerk off dungeon is reductive because that's also where all of his sports

memorabilia is.

It's true.

So there are many kinds of jerking off.

He contains most of his in there.

I also had I asked for eggshell.

This is bone.

Obviously literally whitest white nonsense.

Lindsay talking about her brother's book, Bloom Scully, which won the blister prize.

It's right.

It's right.

There were past lives.

The novel called boner.

This is straight off a bookshelf.

I don't know what to tell you.

When my brother wrote a little book called Bloom Scully.

Pause for a plus.

No reaction.

Troy, William Fickner's character in the Mala necklace.

For like the the wooden beads.

And also saying to Troy, appreciate you, me, Amigo, see you, Maniana.

Really tough stuff.

The dog's name is Burberry.

Is that not the whitest white nonsense?

It's quite white.

He's also a fucking star.

You can support Burberry without supporting the name.

I do.

And the brief moment where Burberry went off the map.

Oh, it's like, oh my god, it's something happened to Burberry.

I was as panicked as I've ever been watching television.

How do you feel about Burberry's extensive wardrobe?

A sweater for every occasion.

Why not?

Okay.

I mean, better than the pillows.

Like, how many pillows does one need versus

I thought, you gotta keep them warm, you know?

Like, they just don't really have a lot going on.

Okay.

All right.

This is fun.

You're pro clothing on dogs.

Depends on the dog.

I don't do it personally.

But you would.

My dog will selectively have like, maybe a bandana, you know?

Okay.

Like a jondi bandana.

To find jondi.

I don't know if a bandana can be unjondi.

For what occasion does the bandana come out?

Usually a birthday, a holiday, you know?

Very festive, specifically.

Okay.

Are the bandana, like, if it's a holiday, if it's like Christmas?

Yes.

Is the bandana like Christmas theme?

Of course.

Why else would you be doing it?

Got it, got it, got it.

Could you think I am?

Very special.

First thing.

That fits right into the white shit category.

Let's keep it moving.

Three last things.

Vesper dropped a glass on the patio,

which is one of the text messages that Ashley receives.

Strikes me as a very white people, a nonsense.

And then Ashley asking Eunice out to Chinese food.

That was tough.

Because she's Korean and an America.

I'm going to book China Bamboo House.

That's real rough.

All right.

Eunice though, very well natured about it.

You know, she's rolling with the punches.

These are the American weirdes.

She's a mumbling leaf.

I'll eat it.

Look, she's a woman of the world.

She's lived and studied internationally.

She's familiar with all this shit.

Yeah, that's it.

All right.

This is an A24 show.

A24-yist moment.

Less a moment and more a fact.

I think just getting Eunyeo Jung on this show to begin with after Minari.

I know she's out other TV,

but this feels exactly the kind of thing

where you can connect the dots and see the pipeline of how it came to be.

This is different from doing Pichinko on Apple.

I agree.

Score by Phineas.

What about the bug motif?

We have ants, bugs, and light fixtures.

The dead bee, which we'll come back to.

Lindsay Flickini on toffer phone, ants on the oranges of the club.

There's just bugs everywhere, felt very, like,

I mean, maybe think of counterbug from disclosure or deer departed,

but also it just felt very A24 to have a bug motif.

It's exactly like you can see when the A24 logo comes up on the trailer.

And it's just the ants crawling in the shape of A24.

This is their whale house.

But I think a lot of it speaks to just the infestation in these specific rich spaces.

It's like it's all veneer.

It all looks very nice.

It feels very nice.

And then you look closely in the oranges covered with ants.

Oh, no, of course, but like, that's an A24 thing to do.

Do you see the rot?

There's bugs everywhere.

Oh my god.

The metaphor is literalized.

Are you kidding me?

Speaking of which, there's a coyote on the property.

Very, I mean, very close.

I'm majestic animal encounter.

All right, diabolical manipulation in these first three episodes.

I got to be honest.

I don't find anything that's happened so far to be like super diabolical.

So define diabolical for me then, not in an Austin way, but in a Rob Mahoney way.

Like, what does it mean to you?

Uh, kidnapping someone and imprisoning them and torturing them.

Okay, so you mean like extreme.

So I sort of meant like,

like in terms of like, like twisted.

For sure, but like, where's the Machiavelli here?

Like, who is who's really pulling the puppet strings?

So I would say,

Lindsay in her conversation with Woosh when she's like,

does the chairwoman know you're making all the other women here at the club

uncomfortable?

You're making me uncomfortable right now when she was just engaging in like,

smearing sunscreen on his half naked body.

You know, that seems to be diabolical manipulation to me.

See, I agree that inciting incident feels diabolical,

but then nothing so far has come of it, right?

Like the doctor chooses to visit and get like, where's the follow for?

You want this to be in a very, like, intricate, long-ranging plan.

You may have heard this before.

I want schemes on schemes on schemes, you know?

I don't have.

Yes.

Ruben Goldberg it up.

Okay.

I was thinking more like,

morally reprehensible,

right?

Which is a lot of this show,

but I just think like, I think Josh making eye contact with Ashley

and saying, is your job safe in episode one?

It's not good.

The Woosh, I mean, Woosh himself taking his shirt off for her to apply the sunscreen was

that's morally reprehensible.

He's been trying to manipulate her into skincare.

Like he's doing his skincare.

Look, if those abs are diabolical,

I don't want to be right.

So I'm saying, I just think, look,

there's a lot of bad behavior on display.

Is any of it so far, like, beyond the pale?

Yes.

It's like, it's not good.

I'm not going to defend what people are doing.

Black male and embezzlement and extortion, like it's all bad.

Yeah.

Doesn't rise to the level of diabolical for you yet.

I'm still waiting for the diabolical stuff.

Stay tuned.

Realistic shot fired during an argument.

We can just skip past the part of what this says about me,

but there's something specifically about when Lindsay says

you're very good at your job and doesn't mean it is a compliment.

I'm like, oh, oh boy.

Oh boy.

I think it's, yeah, listening to your podcast in your little shed

isn't working on shit.

Josh is a pretty, pretty good one.

But for me, and like your own wife had to remind you,

it was her birthday.

Yeah.

Very like, uh, but the herb garden has been our to-do list for five years.

The mulch, the mulch, the runner about spreading the mulch.

He spread the mulch.

He finally did it.

He did it.

But there's rot in the mulch.

But like, this is like the herb garden has been our to-do list for five years.

Is that strikes me as very...

Can we start using this rot in the mulch?

Just like are something rot in the state of Denmark?

Just like any time there's an 824 movie, there's real rot in the mulch.

Anytime you haven't done something, but you do.

Your very response will be very good at your job, Rob.

But like...

Now I can't hear it the same way.

This is the problem.

But anytime you don't follow through,

I'll be like, that herb garden's been our to-do list for five years.

All right.

This is the time to shine.

This is probably our wealthiest category, which is hymbo-iest moment.

Charles Melton, stand up.

They all belong to Charles Melton, except for...

Oh, Dr. Kim at the golf course.

Oh my, he's so good.

Like, he's apparently a very talented surgeon before the tremor.

So like, I don't think he's like a total hymbo.

But he is such...

He's such a ding-battern at home.

So like, I'm really hitting well today

after four consecutive swings and misses.

And his wife and their legal counsel work actively discussing

his medical malpractice are like, very good.

You're doing so well.

Like, clapping.

That was the only non-Austin moment on my list here.

I think they're predominantly Austin moments.

But I want to flip the idea that like, almost every character on this show

is kind of a version of a hymbo.

Like, this is not the brightest group of characters.

I would say the exceptions to that are

the chairwoman seems on top of it.

Eunice seems pretty plugged in and like,

knows how to work people and also like understands how these worlds work.

And also by the end, like I mentioned with Ashley,

like she's at least seeing something that other people are not as far as like the crime in her mix.

Yeah, she's got like most of the picture in place.

For sure.

But everybody else feels like kind of obliviously sort of dumb.

Maybe just too comfortable to be perceptive as when it was.

I agree.

Except for Deb, shout out Deb.

Yeah, she was...

We need more Deb's around here.

Any particular Austin moments you want to shout out here?

I think it's it is the extended missed bit,

the bit that keeps bidding.

Because it feels like it's going to be a throwaway gag.

And then he just keeps bringing it up and specifically

to smart to have a mis team.

That's where I really broke.

I can really see it in the morning.

They do great work, but does she need that much personnel?

Straight, like when we first see him, he is flexing for Ashley.

And that's that's a great hymbo moment.

But I think the moment that his

golden retriever hymbo-inus, really for shines,

is when he text turns as a B died in the house, I cried.

He tried his damnedest to save that B.

When he shows up to Linzi, who's sorting pillows,

and just miss, miss, miss, you're not alone,

like trying to like save her.

And like all of his Reddit searches.

Fiancé, weird sex, why.

All of that.

It's just all good.

I think overall, the-

Yes, I'll cancel our celebratory CPA dinner.

That contrast of like the Gen Z person trying to solve all their problems on Reddit

and the elder millennial, trying to Google it,

having like scroll past all the trash.

The stickles to find some semblance of an answer.

I mean direct fucking hits.

What does it say about me that I do often search and read it for questions that I have?

You're young at heart, you know?

You're tapped into a different generation like that.

I think we've talked about this before.

It really depends.

Like if you're trying to find like the best socks or mattress or whatever.

Specific, I think to be actually quite good.

Like a product sort of thing, because you're going to get hopefully,

because I can't trust a single like bustle list of best of whatever.

That's all spawn cotton.

But like if you go on Reddit, you're looking for the best whatever.

Yeah.

And you're going to see some comments that are clearly like copy-pasted for

a Casper mattress or whatever.

And they're like, this stuff is great.

It's not.

But then you're going to get some some some real real.

I think true true.

I think that's a huge part of it.

Not that there aren't bots on Reddit.

But it does feel like one of the corners of the internet were some real people

still inhabited.

Yeah.

So we'll take it even if the advice is sometimes kind of dog shit.

And largely, everything is assess pool.

So what's this little assess pool that at least has people in it?

Next category is name drop slash celebrity cameo.

And I was wondering like I gave you these categories before you had watched all the episodes.

So I don't know if you were like, what do you mean?

And then I'd already seen it.

And there's really only one answer for me and it's Baron Davis.

Oh, it's Baron Davis.

It's Baron Davis specifically.

It's not Michael Phelps.

The Michael Phelps bit is funny.

Yeah.

And the whole then mox change.

I mean, really just the idea of being like,

in over your head based off of bullshit bed involving Michael Phelps is funny.

But tell me, give me the context for Baron Davis that I'm missing.

I mean, Baron Davis is like an amazing of his time player.

A classic like, oh, if he didn't get injured at this one wrong time,

everything would have been so different for him.

He has this like signature moment.

One of the greatest upsets and then be a history.

Also like has tried to be an actor maybe like 10 years ago or so.

It never quite popped dated Laura Dern for a while.

It's just like a larger than life personality who I love seeing in basically any context.

Great.

Clearly Laura Dern, at least somewhat agreed at the time.

I can't get a test of what she thinks now.

And then Mr. Celita Gomez, Betty Blanco's also here.

Great stuff.

Okay.

Most cutting critique of Gen Z.

I think it is in terms of what's really cutting.

There's a lot of stuff that is accurate and feels like it is pointed directly at Gen Z.

I think the thing that is really like, you're really going deep with this is

Austin and Ashley's inability to handle like even the bare minimum of conflict.

Where it's like anytime there's any friction.

Let's never fight like this again.

It's never ever fight like this again.

There's a lot of talk about emotional openness.

And then anytime any emotional openness is expressed,

it's like, Ashley can't even look at him.

She has to stare out the window and then jump out of the car.

So it's like, maybe not true of everybody,

but there is a generational divide in terms of that kind of conflict of violence,

especially juxtaposed with a golf club guitar swinging all out fight.

I think you're right about that because I think the whole part where

Austin's talking about the system, right?

The people in charge have made it impossible for us.

Everyone grabbed the bag before we could.

It's unfair globally.

And then he's like, I heard anti-trust laws mine out.

Like all that stuff.

But that again, I feel like I remember that being the millennial cry.

You know, that's just sort of like generational turnover.

A generational sort of moment.

Interestingly, as much as I said that Gen X has usually left out of it,

I think Ashley is conspicuously absent parents.

Absent Gen X parents.

I thought, you know, like her dad just like her stepmom,

not inviting her to whatever game they're watching and her dad just like not.

She's like in the hospital waiting room and he's not able to, you know,

make a second for her.

So yeah, her home situation, we haven't really seen or heard much about her mom yet,

but she does try to call her dad who it seems like basically just has a whole new family

and a whole new life and she's unfortunately not a part of it.

Another thing, Josh copying a different fitness influencers content to create his own fit,

like word for word to create his own fitness influencer content.

I thought was like, I mean, I don't know if that's specifically generational,

but it is very like something you see all the time.

So I thought that was really good.

Just, you know,

collecting data from lots of different sources.

Just trying to build those gluprages, you know what I mean?

I mean, are we?

Or stack them, you know?

All right.

Similarly, elder millennials, what dragged them the most?

I think this one was just the like blaming all of your shortcomings on the entitlement of younger people.

And the show also feeds into not entitlement,

but like Ashley so a bit about like, I worked nine whole hours yesterday.

I worked nine whole hours is really good.

They're playing both sides of this divide.

But yeah, I think the way

like the way that Josh and Lindsey are trying to navigate,

how to even interact with these people,

how to manage them, how to manipulate them,

how to be a little more diabolical.

And in ultimately like how they're steering this situation.

And really all they can come up with was like these fucking entitled kids.

Right. These young idiots and then Ashley and Austin are like these dumb old

fucks. Right. Like that's what we're dealing with here.

I will add to that the whole sequence with the foam roller.

Oscar Isaac rolling out the QL muscle on the foam roller while talking about how

entitled these kids are was pretty phenomenal.

Why do you want to do this to us?

Also Lindsey with the my space angle and the face tuning,

you know, for herself.

I see she is quick on the trigger on that touch up.

Like really impressive stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then LCD sound system at the ball.

You cried through the entire encore.

Needle drop. That's needle drop.

I think for me it is the combo of red wine supernova and clarity.

Kind of like the his and hers moments at the household in terms of like

you got a chapel girl and an EDM guy.

Yeah.

Honestly, maybe this just won't work out.

Actually, just really is a chapel girl.

She has a chapel girl.

Absolutely.

For which words?

I'm not a chap.

I'm not not a chapel girl.

I'm also a chapel girl.

I would say of the hits red wine supernova is definitely my favorite.

Very good.

More of a kaleidoscope guy, but we got to be sad sometimes.

I thought you were going to do the A.O.

Yes.

The A.O.

Yes felt like a real rob call.

I would say it is, I mean, thank you, Phineas, the Billy Eilish.

What was I made for?

That shot just speaking of the A.O.

To be sad sometimes.

Yeah.

Moping on the couch to what was I made for?

Really good.

And then there's the acoustic tame and Paula cover.

Really, really good.

I can't remember if I said this category over to you.

Pop culture reference.

Did I send that to you?

Oh, yeah, you did.

Yeah.

What do you have?

I think for me, it's like, it's just shoe horning in another himbo moment.

But thinking that Kim Jong-Un was a member of BTS.

Really great.

You just did really roll with that grace.

So like, she must want him real bad.

Because she is putting up with a lot.

It's like, there are times when please.

And Charles Milton is like shirtless for half of these episodes.

And it's honestly, I didn't do a lot of research into sort of

actor interviews.

But I forget what I was genuinely forget.

Just glue bridges.

Something for Charles Milton.

And it was just all like what his fitness routine was for this season of beer.

Many people are wondering.

I think it's the Anthony Edwards goose slash doctor for me, our exchange.

This will come up a bit more in later episodes.

But Josh is like really one of us, honestly.

Well, I mean, in this episode to make the dual Anthony Edwards,

like ER Top Gun NBA reference, it's about as a direct hit as you're going to get for me.

Welcome to the rigour.

We've just literally just we're just coming off the pit.

Like there's just a lot in the sauce here.

Yeah, okay.

Eat the rich.

The moment where you're like, let's eat them up.

I honestly, I don't I know there's a lot of

exorbitant throwing around of money, but I didn't feel like a real inspiration to eat the rich.

Did you feel that acutely at any point?

You think saying moanay, manay,

making money.

Oh, sure.

Yeah, especially this is this is the one not just saying it, but the whole idea of like art

investment as a rep like a replicable strategy, especially for a country club GM.

Yeah, that's a great call.

The Dracula orchids at the other

$500 pen.

Yeah, $500 pen.

Honestly, this is the one.

B&B culture more broadly, specifically luxury B&B culture.

Something I'm like not dialed into at all.

But yeah, this idea of like because I've stayed in like,

you know, quaintly shabby B&Bs.

I stayed in a lot of teapots.

Yes, and so much rough.

Maybe a room full of dolls.

How do they all have a room full of dolls?

This goes back to when I was working the bookstore.

And there was a film festival, the Napa Valley independent film festival,

had were showing films in one of our stores in Calistoga.

And so they wanted me as a representative of the of the larger bookstore company to like

oversee those screenings at the Calistoga bookstore.

And then they wanted me to drive back at night like over the mountain to where I lived.

And I was like, you can't absolutely not put me up somewhere in Calistoga.

And the company's like, could she stay in a cot in the store and like use the public restroom

in the store? I did have health care, but I didn't have a lot at this store.

And I was like, you want me to take like a horse bath in the public restroom in Calistoga

over the course of the weekend.

So then they finally agreed to they they booked me an Airbnb, like not Airbnb, a B&B.

And I went in and I had not been there yet.

It was late at night. It was like my only option.

I walked in and the room was full of haunted dolls.

The fact that you had no expectation.

This wasn't like a thing you booked on kitsch.

Yeah, it's like you just walk blindly into a doll room.

Yeah, haunted like porcelain cracked face dolls.

Oh my god.

I stayed there that night.

The next night I just did the drive home.

I was like, you know what? I will risk life at home to drive over this mountain.

If it's a cot in the back of the bookstore or haunted doll B&B,

I'll risk my life driving.

There are worse things than driving into a ravine.

Okay.

And then last but not least, this is a crossover from the pit.

We're calling this liban out with the beef.

Ashley has this is the one.

A serious medical condition.

Some torsion, which we experienced this season on the pit actually.

Big moment for ovarian cysts.

Great stuff for ovarian cysts.

What about this storyline?

Did most paint this for you?

I mean, just the health insurance situation we've been talking around more broadly.

That is like the dividing point between like levels of income levels of status.

I think it's for one like very true to life.

But also, I mean, clearly the show liban out.

Ashley being like, can they bundle something?

Do I have any weird moles that I can have removed while I'm getting this surgery?

And also being like, you have one yours.

But I love that that thought process of like, what can I get done?

What can I get done in terms of surgery is like, yeah, liban out with the beef.

That was literally a plotline now that I think about it on adults.

Where somebody went in, it was like having to get a procedure done.

And it's like, how many other major procedures can I double and triple dip while I'm under?

Yeah, the anesthesia will work for all.

Like just blanket anesthesia for all of it.

Don't even worry about it.

Okay, anything else that we haven't mentioned that you wanted to call out?

I mean, there's so many great like running bits or just like one liners in the show.

I can find myself or imagine myself saying the slops are smelling great.

Just many times.

So in my life, what is I didn't understand that?

I was using making sloppy joes.

Oh, sloppy joes.

He was out there. He was like grilling the buns.

I was like, are those little pee can pies?

The difference.

No, that's where warmly toasted hamburger buns.

But the slops are smelling great.

I'm not making slops, but I might make slops just so I can say this.

Would you call them?

You would call them slops.

I think you have to now.

Okay, great.

Anything else?

I would also go for a celebratory dinner at the California Pizza Kitchen.

I'm not above it.

Would you throw a de jorno or two in the oven as we did?

Well, I mean, only triple meat.

You know, like if we're going to do it, we're going to do it right?

Are you are you choosing the crust or no?

Why not?

Okay.

Wow.

Wild it out.

I'll pull me in and she's in front.

Again, like if we're flexing, you got to flex.

You really have to treat yourself now and again.

Then CPK is the way.

All right.

That's the beef episodes one through three.

This is the diabolical way that we decided to cover three episodes of television.

We'll be back with four or five six.

Well, we do the exact same format who's to say probably, but we'll see.

I also want to put out our services for something on this show.

I know it's a little late in the game.

Concerning their binge dropping it,

the Photoshop work that was done to put young Oscar Isaac and young Kerry Mulligan

in a wedding photo together, I think we could do better.

It's the way in which there's so clearly,

like he's supposed to be looking at her, but he's looking like.

In opposite directions.

We speak to the left.

Yeah, it's tough.

It's tough.

I would say the Photoshop of younger Oscar Isaac and young Oscar Isaac is better

than the one of young Oscar Isaac and Kerry Mulligan.

Now that I think about it, though, the young Oscar Isaac and A-Rod might be the worst of the photo.

Do you want to, yeah, I was like, do you want to lend your sports expertise

to any of the sports memorabilia that we see?

We get the Tiger Woods driver, like anything else that you want to shout out,

that you noticed in the background.

The Tiger Woods bit is great, especially after the golf club debacle and the fight.

Overall, I find the argument that Ant is the future,

and thus you should invest in this and you can now to be quite persuasive.

It's not like a Victor Webinyama level version of the future,

but if you were going to make a long-term investment,

I actually think it's a pretty savvy play.

Maybe more savvy than buying a bunch of super-expensive audio file equipment, perhaps.

Or Monet.

All right.

Thank you.

How dare they?

Thank you to Devin Aldo.

Thank you to Jacob who's working on this episode.

Thank you to Kai Grady.

Thank you to you.

Woo, the beef itself.

Carrie Mulligan.

Carrie Mulligan.

And I'll scratch it, Smollett.

Yeah.

And we'll see you soon.

Bye.