‘The Karate Kid Part II’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt

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Kyle Brandt has been on in a few weeks.

Rarely, if ever have we done one to set up the next one, but Karate Kid 2 needed to happen

before we did Karate Kid 3, which is the one we really want to do.

And yet, Kyle Brandt, I watched Karate Kid 2 and I'm like, not only am I really glad

we're doing this.

This might be a good movie and it's coming up next.

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do you want me to do it now or wait till 20 minutes in?

What do you want from me here?

I think you do the SATTO now and then I got something

I got something for you, but do Sato, let's do it.

He does all his loves like this.

And he speeds up at the end.

And what's interesting is it's very similar

to Chong Li in Bloodsport,

and I don't know if Chong Li was stealing from Sato

or just mass of coincidence or what was going on there.

It's like ripping off legs up one.

Like everybody does it.

You are next.

That's that's that's below young.

Yeah.

And listen, if you want to do Sato, I'm giving you,

I am a man that will fight for your own.

I'm doing Satara.

It's basically a Sato and Satara movie.

And then like we just wrapped.

That's it.

One of them won the movie.

I'm not sure which one.

So this came out 40 summers ago, June 20th, 1986,

three days after 1986, the NBA draft.

And sadly a day after Lin-Biastide,

which I just bumped me out, it went into production.

10 days after Cradi Kid, one came out.

They were just like, we've struck gold.

Let's go.

We have the script.

Okinawa will film it in Hawaii.

We're doing this.

You know, my relationship's complicated with this movie.

Something that Peter liked it did the job.

Then over the years, it was on all the time,

became a great movie to make fun of.

And then I kind of landed as like,

oh yeah, stupid.

Then watch it again.

I was like, this is just a good movie.

It's really well done.

It looks good.

Miyagi's great in it.

The music's good.

I believe the premise.

I was kind of shocked by how well done it was.

What did you think when you rewashed it?

Well, I have to set the context a little bit.

This has been a weird weekend.

Right now it's Monday, July 20th,

Bill and I are recording this.

My wife Brooke comes up to me as we're going into the weekend.

My kids are at camp.

She's like, hey, we should go see the Odyssey this weekend.

You want to go see it?

I was like, I got to get in Cradi Kitu a couple times.

I don't know if I have time.

My schedule is kind of packed right now.

So we did go see it.

Yeah.

And like, since I've seen the movie,

all I want to do is talk about it and read about it

and like get into it and do the research.

And like, and yet I'm sitting here

and I'm talking about Satoh and Miyagi's beef

that goes back 45 years.

Never mind the Odyssey.

I'm so geared in on Cradi Kitu.

And to answer your question, Bill,

this is a really, really fun movie to watch.

And I think you hit the nail in the head.

My favorite thing about this movie

is how effortlessly it picks up from the first one.

Like they fucking nailed it because Cradi Kitu won.

Nobody knows better than you.

Not just to hit like a sensation.

Pat Marita's a national treasure, video games, cartoons,

all that stuff.

And 10 days later, these producers are like, go, go.

We're going now get Lawrence, get macho, get everybody.

Cause in the opening scene, it feels exactly like

they looked in Cradi Kitu won.

They're hair, they're clothes.

It's like, it's not like, oh, yeah, macho put on a few.

It's nothing like that.

It looks just like the first one.

Yeah, that's a good point.

It's very somewhere in a Rocky 2

and how it brings back Rocky 1, the beginning of Rocky 2.

And basically the last, what, seven minutes of Rocky 1

or the beginning of Rocky 2.

And Cradi Kitu does this tube and it actually works.

It's like, here's what happened in Cradi Kitu 1.

We know you've watched it 10 times.

We're going to be the greatest hit to go through.

Yeah.

It's about even Rocky 5 picks up in the locker room

after the Dragon 5.

And it's probably the best part of Rocky 5.

I think it's like, when we start Cradi Kitu,

it's like, we're still kind of feeling

the all-veiledy tournament.

Like we're still like, have the adrenaline from it,

just like Daniel Sun.

And it works effortlessly.

Even in Cradi Kitu 3, which I know we'll get to,

they show the same scenes going in Cradi 3.

They're back to the tournament again.

They're just like, we're going to table set it every time.

And I like it.

Well, I went back, one of the first like hit pieces

I wrote for EASPAN was the Cradi Kid Trogy.

Oh, I love this.

And I went back and I was kind of mean on Cradi Kid 2.

I don't know.

Sure.

I don't know if I was doing it for sport or what.

And I kind of dismissed that this was a really,

not only a well-done movie, and a movie

that was a logical successor to KK1,

but really a Pat Marita vehicle.

This is it.

They told Pat, put on the chef outfit.

You're cooking here for our 51.

And he's really good.

I mean, he got nominated for Cradi Kid 1.

But I think he has some great scenes in this.

And like I really believe like when Sato finally breaks them.

Cod, you must fight me.

And then finally like the villages at stake.

Yeah.

And Marita's just like, fun.

You win.

Let's go.

Let's go fight to the death.

I'm like, yeah, you got to fucking do this.

Miyagi, let's go.

I think it's just really fun.

I think it can't get lost, Bill.

Like Pat Marita, Mr. Miyagi, the maintenance man,

got an Oscar nomination.

Not some people's choice.

Blockbuster bullshit.

A fucking Oscar.

I mean, like does Harrison Ford have an Oscar nomination?

I don't even know.

There are a lot of people who've not gotten them.

And Pat Marita got one.

And I think the filmmakers are like, you know what?

Miyagi is our fucking star.

Let's go back to his town.

And Danielson's gonna do his thing.

But like, let's make this about Miyagi's origin story.

Miyagi's romance.

It's a Miyagi movie.

And he's a really good actor.

He's good.

He's really good.

He has really good scenes.

I believe in him in Sato, especially when they reconciled

at the end.

I'm more in a Miyagi during this movie.

And this is the movie that taught us,

like we really Daniel signed and we were wrong.

We got this wrong and KK1.

I know he was the hero.

We need to rethink this.

This guy's actually kind of a loser.

And you're watching Cry to Kid 2.

I'm not even sure who I want to win in the final scene

with him and chosen.

It's like, it's a fight to the death.

I don't know, 50-50.

You could bend it either way.

Joe's holding a knife to a young lady's throat.

Still a more sympathetic figure than Larissa.

Not Larissa.

Larissa, he spends half the movie with his body language

is sunk forward with this like incredulous look on his face

as people are yelling at him.

He doesn't seem to understand.

He's in any danger at all with the Sato crew.

He's like, I'll fuck with these guys.

Yeah, I'll point out the fruit.

You cheated on the fruit weights.

And obviously you like this girl all interested in.

What could go wrong here?

He just stumbles into danger at all times.

He did this in KK1 too.

Right?

He didn't have to escalate it with the skeleton crew.

The Cobra Kai.

He didn't have to like Johnny Lawrence just try and take a dump.

There's need to pour the hose on him.

Doesn't need to get involved with Ali and the radio

and the beach like, he just finds trouble.

People just don't like him.

He also spends 90% of this movie

just asking inane questions to Miyagi about what happened here

and then what happened that it's,

he's so annoying in this movie.

It's you're almost like, hey, Danielson,

I know you are the karate kid.

What you going a little bike ride with Camico

and let's just stick with Miyagi

because he'll at least fight too.

I'm a set.

Right.

Miyagi, I think really,

we're gonna get into who wins the movie.

And when I'm watching the rewatch,

I find myself like, can we get to the Miyagi scenes?

Right.

I wrote in my credit kid trilogy

that this was the movie where the relationship

between Miyagi and Danielson started to get a little uncomfortable.

It really did.

And there's lots of,

it says that we'll do when we do the rewatch,

but I want to call one out now.

It surprises him at the airport.

Miyagi has to go back his dad sick.

He's flying back to Okinawa.

And Danielson for some reason thought

he was gonna live at Miyagi's house all summer,

which is weird for itself.

You're an 18 year old kid.

But he shows up.

Miyagi's kind of like, what are you doing here?

Like you can't come.

And the actual code is, Mr. Miyagi,

you're more important than college.

You're more important than anything to me.

Because he's dipping in his college foot by the fingers.

Just kidding.

You're more important than anything to me.

This is a friend you made nine months ago

who's three times older than you.

And this is the lightier life.

Like, and this has been the crux of this movie

in K2 and KK3.

It's like, why do you like this guy so much?

What is it about him?

I don't understand it.

So you explain it.

Couple things.

First of all, after the first movie,

if the producers heard anything about

how the relationship is weird

between Danielson and Miyagi,

they don't give a shit.

Because they're actually,

because they started the movie

with Miyagi standing outside the showers

while Miyagi, while Danielson naked getting the shower.

There's no other sensees there.

I don't see crease outside.

It's just Miyagi in the shower room.

So they're like, now we're gonna roll with this.

And then I'm like,

naked kids in the background that I think is.

Naked extras.

Yes, the TV gets better.

It's a little Brian Singery.

Like it may be kind of go, no.

Yeah.

So hey, you were in K2.

Yeah, yeah, who were you?

No, I was a naked shower guy behind LaRusso.

I was naked for no reason in the first scene after the fight.

And then the other thing,

we have to look through the lens of like,

this, remember,

this is going on simultaneously

with Marty McFly and Doc Brown.

Like this was just the thing

that the high school kids hung out

with the eccentric old guys.

Yeah.

And again, in like the case of Marty McFly,

plays lead guitar in a rock band,

skateboards, dates to hottest girl in school.

And yet has no friends other than the eccentric doctor.

It's a lot of the same going out with Macho.

Like, are you spending any time at all with Miyagi

when Ali is in your life?

No, of course not.

Well, he dated, we're suppose,

I mean, the chronology of this movie is pretty strange.

It's all over.

So it seems like him and Ali dated for six months.

Six months, legit.

So that puts the Karate Kid tournament around,

I guess January when he wins the All Valley

in Karate Kid one.

Yeah, because then the summer kicks in

and college is coming and all that.

Yeah, so I think it's like,

maybe it's a Christmas tournament.

I don't mean to be a dick, but we have Halloween.

He hasn't even started training yet, right?

And he tells them to leave Ketalon to a tournament.

I remember the tournament being in the spring.

I don't know, I think they took some liberties

not realizing podcasts were coming four years later,

but they may get similar, they're dating for six months.

Somehow something happens at the prom

and she's with the UCLA football quarterback.

Yeah.

And now it's like Miyagi or Bust.

His mom's out, his mom's moving to Fresno.

We don't know what's going on there.

And he's just gonna live with her.

But I just think, listen,

our relationship with Macho and the character Daniel

is uncomplicated.

We go into the Cobra Kai when they do the TV show version.

Yeah.

And they fully embrace something that we've been talking about

for 35 years up to Cobra Kai, which is like,

what is Daniel actually the villain of this entire trilogy?

And you really feel it in KK2.

It's like, first of all, stay with Mokanawa.

Stay away from all these Japanese guys

and Satoh, all this stuff.

Like nobody wants you, you're the American guy.

Now you're trying to date one of their ladies.

Like what the fuck are you doing?

But it took us decades to realize

that he was actually the villain.

It's just, it has no business there.

And you know, it's like me at like 18

going with the handyman in my building to like,

Saigon, like to Vietnam.

I'm just like, yeah, I think I just fit in.

I'm like, this is this white boy walking around.

I learned karate.

I take your women.

Like, I think that's gonna go well in the village.

No, of course not for you Daniel.

Stay home.

You're in the valley.

I was thinking, my son just graduated from high school.

Okay.

Like, hey, where's your friend going?

Where's this guy going?

Where's he going to college?

What's this kid doing this summer?

If he said, like, what, what your friend,

what's your friend Jim doing this summer?

Oh, so it's a long story, but there's this maintenance man

in his apartment building.

It went back to Okinawa.

And he just went back with him for the summer.

I would be like, what?

I have nine more questions.

Yeah, and before they go to Okinawa,

the maintenance man was actually physically building him

his own bedroom at his house.

Really?

Like, isn't he on a list or something?

Come on.

Yeah, that's another great thing about this movie

is Miyagi is still getting work done in his house

for his relationship with Daniel son.

That should have been the reason that I broke up with him.

It should have been the UCLA football quarterback.

It should have been like, Mr. Miyagi,

she just kept wondering what was going on with us.

It would be a Friday night.

I just wanted to come over here and work on your flowers.

And every time we go out,

you wear that stupid headband around.

Like, why do you,

you have to take that off enough with that?

Yeah, I think Mr. Miyagi was three as a crowd.

Yeah, no question.

Well, so just to go through the relationship really quick,

some beats.

Yeah.

Promets goes right to Miyagi's right afterwards.

Not trying to get laid.

Doesn't end up on a beach until five in the morning.

Not hung over.

Nope, not hung over at all.

Just right to Miyagi's.

Goes to the passport office with him.

Is Miyagi's guy getting a passport?

I have to.

Yeah, so that's like, can I come?

This is it.

You just, that's how obsessed is with Miyagi.

An 18 year old kid will go to the most boring place

on the face of the earth and wait in line.

Ever.

I'd rather go to the DMV.

That's incredible.

We've been fighting with my son all summer

because he lost his driver's license

and needs to get another one.

And he doesn't want to go to DMV.

Daniel says like, passport?

Are you going to the Glendale Water or pass a name?

Amen.

What time?

10?

What's hang out in line?

He decides to spend a summer after graduation

and uses his college fund.

Yep.

And delays going to college for six months

so he can go to Japan with his sensei.

We got that.

We have the Mr. Miyagi.

You're more important than college,

more important than anything to me.

And then the big one, which is just glossed over in the movie.

They end up flying to Japan together.

I don't know if you noticed the seating arrangements

in the road.

I did.

Daniel says in the window seat,

Miyagi's middle, nobody in the aisle seat.

At no point are they like, hey, cool.

Nobody's in the aisle.

I thought Miyagi was the aisle.

There's there's so.

There's another seat.

What the fuck?

Miyagi's just in the middle.

It's like, move over, dude.

There's nobody in the aisle seat.

These guys are just like, it's like me and my wife traveling.

It's just fucking weird.

And but this is the 80s.

Like we didn't understand any of this stuff.

That's like if you go to bathroom and there's five urinals

and Danielson took one and then Miyagi takes the one right next to him.

Not even the first three.

Yeah, the kids won.

The little one.

Jesus.

Well, Miyagi, I wrote down some Miyagi.

He has some incredible Miyagi isms in this movie.

I don't know why fortune cookies didn't do a deal with them.

I'm gonna, I'll read you nine.

You tell me what your favorite one is.

A person with no forgiveness in heart,

live and even worse punishment than death.

So he's basically saying you're better to be dead than to not be able to forgive somebody.

I don't know if I agree with that.

I'd rather, I'd rather just not forgive him.

I'm always gonna choose life.

I'm half Italian.

When you feel life out of focus,

always return to basic of life.

Breathe in.

I'm not sure.

Pretty weak.

Never put passion before principle, even if when you lose.

It's all right.

And I can be the best guy that would never put passion before principle.

What does that even mean?

It means like don't have your determination to win and allow you to cheat or betray your values

or some stuff like that.

You'd love that.

Your Patriots fan.

So like Argentina and the World Cup.

Yeah.

Maybe something like that pulling from the headlines.

Inokinawa honor have no time limit.

Sure.

I got a little bit of that.

45 years Sato is still this pissed.

Get over it, old man.

Or you know what?

Fly to California and fight the guy.

That's online in the slow music.

Give him a plan.

Just go in your private jet and find Miyagi and kick his ass and then get your honor back.

You don't have to wait for him.

45 years.

Sometime what Hart no head forget.

Again, I'm not sure what that means.

Never stop war by joining one.

I thought this was actually his best advice so far.

That's sunsoo.

I like it.

It's good.

Not matter who's strong, matter who's stronger.

That's just not intelligent.

Lied become truth only of person believe it.

I think Trump said this once and then never never keep lady waiting.

Is actually the best advice on the movie.

Yeah, even though he keeps his own lady waiting for 45 years.

Fucking liar.

What is he talking about?

Sensor, no.

Anyway, those were all the Miyagi's.

And state as always, Marina is such a good actor.

The delivery makes it sound more profound than it actually is when you break it down.

I think there's a whole generation of people that don't understand that Pat Marita

doesn't talk like that.

If you see interviews with him, like if you don't know him from Happy Days or is being

a stand up comic, he just he talks like without any of that effect or accent at all.

That's what makes it impressive.

It's amazing.

Yeah, because I knew him as happy days guy.

So when he was in karate kid one who seemed inconceivable that Arnold from Happy Days was

going to be the sensei in some karate kid sports movie.

Is there a comp who would be like like, Irkhol playing like some serious role like like

as a karate master or something?

Because I don't really know how it is that well.

I would say we'd have to go modern comp.

So it'd have to be one of the weird one like Finn Wolfhard and Stranger Things.

Suddenly becoming Dustin.

Yeah, something coming up Kung Fu person.

One of the things about this movie Kyle.

Yeah.

So basically, Danny, other than the opening scene, Daniel Sun's like the only way person

in this movie.

And it's all it's all Asian actors and they're all really good.

So we have no boom and Karth is as suki.

So she was in the Pacificites free watchables that we did.

So this is our back.

Yeah, we're back with her.

Great.

Tamlin Tamita's Kameko who was a smoke show in the mid 80s.

I was great.

Absolutely.

Come back.

Come back to Kobe.

And when she comes back to Kobe.

She looks beautiful.

Looks great.

What a wonderful looking woman.

And a good actress her first movie in this.

Like I love Kumiko.

Danny Kamakono.

Kamakona.

Is that chosen?

Is that chosen?

Oh, that's Satoh.

Okay.

We'll get to him in a second.

And then you, Jiacomo, is chosen.

Who I always thought as like Japanese Zabka basically.

He's basically doing the Zabka.

He's doing the Billy Lawrence.

What was Johnny Lawrence playbook?

He's unbelievable in this.

He's just the most awesome evil nephew possible.

He's good at karate.

Takes a shirt off at one point.

He's fucking ripped.

Dude, I had it.

I'm like, is chosen eligible for the Richard Kimball sneaky physique award?

I don't know.

I had it.

I was like, he's, Kimball is like an old doctor.

Like chosen's like a young karate guy.

So he's supposed to look ripped.

But I like dude, I almost did a spit take when he takes a shirt off.

He's got like these massive packs.

He has this V like frame with this tiny waist.

He looks like Bruce Lee, like but more jacked.

He looks awesome.

I think he gets the Richard Kimball.

Yeah, I'll give it to him.

But Sato, who I went to his IMDB and I just, I think this was the peak.

He does something that you rarely see people pull off of movies correctly, where he's

just like, unredeemable villain.

Yep.

Really dark where you're like, yo, this is like uncomfortable how evil you're being.

And then the switch flips and he's like a good guy on the sudden.

You want to have the dance at the castle?

Sure.

Here's the deep back to the village.

And he's just like the nicest guy ever in the last 20 minutes of the movie.

And I was in joy with that happens.

He goes in 10 seconds from I will literally bulldoze your church with the children in it.

Yeah.

You want to do it at the castle?

Let's rock and roll, baby.

And he's got the silly smile on his face.

It's a quick turn.

A really quick one.

But it's because he's so dark to start.

Yeah, he's really good though.

I think he's incredibly menacing his voice, which we've already done 10 times.

Yeah.

Yummy.

You caught it.

I got a couple of categories devoted to Saddo.

I'm big Saddo guy.

He is just a he's a I like when he shows up dressed up.

I like when he shows up at the end.

He's got the I'm here to help rebuild the village outfit.

I like when he does the drum, the drum thingy with Miyagi at the end.

He's like, he's all in.

He's just a good guy.

I could use more.

I wish Saddo to your point.

I wish he was like the MC of the Cumetain Bloodsport.

If he was like the crooked boss in charge of it because his physicality and like you're

nailing like the casting of this movie is really good.

Yeah, I mean, big parts of chosen and Saddo and Kamiko.

I think are three for three.

They did a great job.

Listen, we could do this later and unanswerable questions, but I really want to do this now.

What do you got?

With Saddo in the right.

Okay.

So he's Miyagi's best friend.

This is 1940s, right?

We're like either right before World War II or after I don't know when, but I don't know

how long ago it was, but I think it was like 45 years.

So they do this in 1986.

That's like, before World War II.

I think it's 1941.

Yeah, so 1940.

Yeah, so I put four of them.

Yeah.

So they're best friends.

They have traditions in this in Okinawa where it's like, well, you're arranged to marry

Suke.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But Miyagi's in love with Suke.

Yeah.

And she decides she loves Miyagi, which I would argue in 1940 is a massive disgrace for Saddo.

I can kind of see why he's been pissed off about this for half a century.

This is his best friend.

It was an arranged marriage.

Like why are you even like spending one minute with this girl?

This is my, this is my family's arranges already.

Dickhead.

Completely with you.

There's a lot of fish in the sea Miyagi.

You're literally a fisherman, all right?

And then not only that, Saddo's like, listen, asshole, let's fight now.

You took my honor, let's fight.

And Miyagi is such a bitch and won't fight him for years and years.

You just leave.

You just leave.

And he's a leaves for 45 years.

And he comes back in two seconds since Saddo's like, all right, let's fight.

We are fucking fighting.

You say what you want about arranged marriages.

Like that's our custom here, dude.

And you backstab me and you took the girl.

So let's fucking fight to the death.

And Miyagi's like, no, no, no, I was like, fuck you bitch.

Like you never fight.

I hate it.

And even Saddo even is about to punch him in a certain time.

Like he comes up to the village and he rounds up on him.

Like I'm gonna do this right now.

And then he gets saved by the woman.

Miyagi, I really wish we had picking nits or like what's wrong with this movie.

I wanted some Miyagi Sato.

Even if it gets broken up, like I want to see some blows exchange between these two

and they didn't give us to us.

Yeah, it's a great point.

I mean, so Miyagi selling us on the one hand of like, Okinawa, Japan.

It's all about tradition.

It's all about honor.

Yeah.

Except for the time when my best friend was arranged to be married to this lady who I

tried to steal from him.

And then when he got mad, I fucking fled to the United States.

Yeah.

It's very honorable there, Miyagi.

Yeah, and not to mention when he gets there, he's like, you know,

advancing on a child.

Like he is, there's no honor at all.

Like he ditches his best friend.

He's shacking up with a boy.

It's across the board.

I don't know where he's preaching that.

I love Miyagi in this movie, but I found him getting really tired somehow much she was

fleeing from Sato.

Who's just like, this is how we do things in the village, man.

Go up or don't.

Yeah.

You tried to steal the go and then the poor Suki just never got married.

No.

Disastrous life.

Her life is ruined.

And her and Sato are in the same place and Sato, meanwhile owns everything in the village

and she can't and she's just that's it.

Yeah.

And look at the room.

After this movie, they leave again.

They're right in there.

They're going back to California.

It's credit could three is not an okay now.

They didn't settle down.

They're back in the valley.

Ridiculous.

$12 million budget made $130 million.

Fuck yes.

It was the fourth highest 1986 release.

It earned more than the credit kid.

Our, let me give you the top nine really quicker.

Let's go.

Top 1986.

Top gun one.

Crocodile then the two.

If you're massive, everyone.

Crocodile then the one, right?

Which one?

Crocodile then the one was number two.

Crocodile yeah.

Yeah.

Right, right, right.

Platoon.

Karate kid two.

Star Trek four.

There's really five movies that made over $100 million.

And then we had back to school, aliens, the golden child, ruthless people and Ferris

viewers day off rounding off our top 10.

Life was good in 1986.

I tell you Bill, it's a couple of juicy episodes just dangling in there that haven't been done

on this year podcast.

Yeah, and it's one back to school.

You're on the list for that one.

Haven't done platoon yet.

Roger Ebert.

Myel thumbs up on the TV show.

Didn't do a written review.

I'm, I'm trying to get to.

He's like, I'm out.

I'm not, I'm not writing about this.

I'm not using my fingers.

He did on the TV show praise the deeper exploration of Mr. Miyagi and appreciated the Okinawa

setting.

It's good.

It's really good.

I feel like he could have cranked out 500 words.

Maybe Cisco covered it.

I'm not sure.

But yeah, this is an appointment movie.

But listen, look at the movies you just rattled off.

And by the way, 1986, and he even mentioned Cobra, like there's, there was just bangers.

All year long.

And he just came out.

Yeah.

And we've done, I think we've done at least 20, 19, 86 moves at this point.

All right, we're going to take a break and then we got to go through rewatchable scenes.

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All right, most rewatchable scene.

We talked about the opening scene with the original ending of Karate Kid 1 in the script.

And since then, there's been a thought that this was actually filmed for Karate Kid 1.

They decided that should be the ending.

Apparently, that's an urban legend.

And they actually filmed the beginning of Karate Kid 2 in real time.

But they used what had been in the script.

And they filmed it.

I always thought they filmed it right after they finished Karate Kid 1 and decided not to

use it.

But that's not true.

So they brought everybody back.

I have one huge point on this, but just go through the beats really quick.

Chris is on a heater.

It's almost like he found like a like a brewery in the, at the all karate or grab some beers

bar.

Seems drunk somehow.

Yep.

And he's just, he's doing the, you're nothing.

You lost your loser.

And he's doing, he's like really over the top.

Starts strangly Johnny Lawrence does the how to second place feel now.

The co-brocott kids seem terrified.

People are watching in the parking lot.

And then Miyagi saves the day and he punches two windows and does the hunk.

How did you feel about somebody passing out from punching two car seat windows?

I have a take on that.

And I as a kid, I thought it was really funny.

And now as an adult, I'm like, stop out bullshit.

They should fight.

Like, what are we doing?

Creas just beat up some kids.

Like Miyagi should come over and knock them out or something like that.

Again, we don't get Miyagi Sado.

We don't get Miyagi Creece until KK3.

I also like, when I'm watching this, maybe it's because like I'm a modern parent now,

is there you?

And like, I see this through the lens of the viral video of wild video of karate instructor

beating his own students and part gets like on Huffington Post and like he's disowned

and he loses his job and all that.

Like you would see that everywhere.

I may see it this weekend.

A travel ball.

It just hit me hard.

Yeah, that is true.

I have something I noticed.

So it says at the end, they're all credited to cobracad guys.

The cobrace.

They call them the cobrace in the credit.

Williams, Abka, and then the other four, including Chad McQueen is Dutch.

So I watched his car fly.

I noticed this the second time.

Where is this going?

I'm already like it.

Dutch isn't in the scene.

It's somebody who looks like Dutch, but it's not Dutch.

He pulls a hat way down.

He's on the other side of the car.

He has no lines.

You see in the beginning and then he just turns.

I'm telling you, we can do a social video about this.

I think I'm breaking news here.

So Chad McQueen is credited, but I don't think he's actually there.

They have the guy turn around.

He turns it when it gets closer.

He turns away from the camera so you can't see him.

I don't think it was Dutch.

Wait, is this get him a body bag?

Yeah.

No, Dutch is the guy with the blonde hair.

He's the guy that Daniel's son never actually would have beaten in the off-value.

They don't even show a lot of the.

They only show the last point.

He's strong.

Yeah, it's it's like.

And Dutch is like, he's the one that taunts him in the locker room.

Yes.

The crazy mommy does that whole thing.

And he just, Daniel's son never would beat him.

I don't think Dutch wanted to come back for KK2.

You think they reach an arrangement with Dutch?

I think they put a wig on somebody else and pretended it was Chad McQueen and called

it a day.

That's my work in theory.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, now I gotta rewatch it because I gotta see if it's him.

Like is the actor's name is.

The guy literally does this.

Chris.

Chris has been out of Johnny Lawrence and he turns like he's like security trying to keep

the crowd away or some very strange.

Because Lamar let's rel from revenge of the nurses.

He's not in that scene either.

He's off of the trilams.

And neither is Andrew Schoo.

Okay.

Next scene is Daniel barges the flight begs to go to Japan, which we, we talked about.

We also find out that Miyagi and Sado would have fought to the death of Miyagi.

Stayed in Okinawa.

So that's another scene.

Miyagi and Daniel get kidnapped by Chosen.

Uh-huh.

Miyagi who's supposed to be wisdom guy.

Shows up the airplane.

Somebody's like, we're here.

You're right.

And it's like, huh.

I wonder if this is the guy who's been trying to kill me for 45 years.

Hey, let's just get in the car.

The father, Dez scene where Danison consoles Miyagi.

Oh, leading to that.

Beautiful.

Look at that.

The most emotional scene ever with Daniel son and.

And he tears up.

It's beautiful.

How did you feel about the father's Dez scene?

No, where he put Sado and Miyagi's hand together and then he's like, oh, I dead.

It was Christopher Nolan's getting a lot of love this week, but there's a very bad death

in the dark night rises.

It's the known as the worst death ever.

Yeah.

This one is kind of up there with that.

It's like, you got to give us a little more than just tilting your head back.

And also he looks like five years older than Marita.

I'm very distracting.

It looked like his brother.

Yeah.

Daniel's date is another one where he's just kind of he can't even go on a date without

hoping that Mr. Miyagi's going to show up and all everything leads to the ice break.

Sado shows up out of nowhere.

Everybody's just showing up at this random bar and up and out, but leading to Daniel son.

And then all six breaking the ice.

I personally don't believe it.

I don't think you could have done it.

My favorite scene as a kid.

This movie inspired more broken hands than any movie in history between the ice and

between Sado's wood.

Sado banging the log.

Yes.

Over.

But like, there was a part in the video game where if you got to the bonus round, you

could cut the ice.

And I always like, I think it's a huge coincidence that the place where you're training in

karate happens to have an ice breaking thing that they just bring out.

And Daniel son, the number, this would be perfect for you.

It's 600 bucks at three to one odds, right?

So like Miyagi makes 1800 bucks off of Sato Inc.

Huge.

He got to, he got basically that Daniel's college fun back.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I always wanted to try it.

I was wanted to do it as a kid.

I was enchanted by that short little scene.

Love it.

Of course, Daniel's college was going to be recita community college because he's going

to be within seven minutes of Miyagi.

The ice in the bar had some questions.

Just they just have these blocks just ready to go.

They'll get some more giant ice blocks.

Those things are expensive.

I guess, you know, they have those things now in arcades where you can like punch the,

the, the speed bag and see like how strong your punches.

This was like an 80s Japanese version of that.

And they got a line outside the door to do the ice blocks.

Daniel at the dance ends up with the fight.

Chosen shows up yet another terrible Daniel performance.

And then Miyagi has to go John Wick on everybody.

Which is like kind of a staple of these karate kid trolleges where Miyagi has to just clean

house.

He really has two moves.

All right.

Let's get into this.

What moves?

What do you got?

Well, he's good at, he's moving side to side avoiding punches.

For some reason, people see little Miyagi and they're like, I'm going to go flying at him.

He's good at moving.

He has a good little turn kick.

He goes right to the stomach.

Never goes head.

He doesn't have the John Jones flying elbow behind or any moves like that.

And it's really, it's a move out of the way.

It's a side kick and it's a punch.

And that's it.

Very easy to scout, I think.

I had this written down just to ask you, how do you feel watching Miyagi fighting?

And as I've gotten older now, like, first of all, Pat Marita, like if you get it, like

no martial arts training, no background, or use the comedian, just showed up and like

they teach him the moves.

Watching it now, it reminded me a little bit of Robert De Niro and the Irishman like

stomping that guy out.

It's like, it looks like he's like stepping out of beetle and he's got blows back out.

Miyagi not exactly that quick, but it's, it's, I think maybe there's a reason we don't

get the crease fight in the saddle fight.

I'm not sure Marita could do that many moves.

I think that's fair.

It reminded me a little of when you watch Messi in the World Cup, he's so low to the ground.

It just kind of confounded every defender.

Because they would think they could knock him off the ball, but he would go low and just

be able to keep his balance and footing.

That was a little Miyagi-ish.

He could go low and they just couldn't figure out his style at all.

Over and over again, the same mistakes made in Gibson.

You got white hot soccer takes these days, Bill.

I watched a lot of World Cup and I know I could tell.

Probably won't watch soccer again for another four years.

The hurricane scene.

Yeah.

A lot to unpack here.

This hurricane comes out of nowhere.

For some reason, the village only has one central location that you can be safe of that

everyone cramps into.

Things are just getting demolished.

I don't know where Sato was staying with his nephew, but that thing just completely falls

apart in a giant log lawns, lands on him leading to Miyagi with the wood shop.

It's a great moment.

Ten to one odds.

He actually pulls that off.

What do you think?

A thousand to one.

That thing is not even Ikea particle board.

That is a full styrofoam.

He does a six inch chop.

This is not John Clark Van Dam.

This is Pat Marita in the 80s.

The thing just explodes, but it's a great movie moment, dude.

Sato's lying under the saw going, no, you fight.

Coward.

It's not just talking shit under the plank.

Oh, look who now here.

And it's like, bam, bam.

It was awesome.

Miyagi saves him.

And immediately switched flips.

I got you old friend and now there are buddies.

Somehow there's a little girl 15 feet up on a telephone pole.

I didn't really understand this either.

How did she get up there?

What happened?

Where did she come from?

Why wasn't she with everybody else?

All right, everybody in the village is going to have jobs.

You to ring the bell when the typhoon shows up.

Let's put the seven-hour-year-old girl 30 feet up.

Right.

That's your job.

Typhoon alert girl.

She's got an idiotic choice.

And then Danielsson has to go up and get her.

Chosen won't help.

Discretes himself.

He's out.

He's back in the car.

He's just, he's done with Danielsson.

Danielsson goes up there.

He goes up in pretty incredible buckle trick.

Belt buckle takes off the belt.

He's got this swing electric.

There's going to electrocute him somehow.

It gets that thing down.

I would say it's his best moment

until they get to the ground.

And then he can't carry an eight-year-old girl 10 feet.

I mean, he's one of the weird body actors

we've ever had anyway.

He's like all hips and legs and has no torso.

And it's just kind of barely as a spine.

And by the way, at the time, like Danielsson

is trying to also deal with a full tilt erection

that he has from being with Camico.

It's one of the only times in the movie, dude,

that I sympathize with Danielsson.

He's got to sit there and drink this tea.

And then she takes out the sticks

and her hair comes down.

This is a teenage kid here.

Like, he goes and kisses.

Like, this kid's balls would be exploding

like the fucking death star.

And then it's like, oh, look at Typhoon.

And I'm like, oh, I feel for this kid.

He's been waiting for months for this.

They should've hid under his wood.

They could've put like three people under there.

We know me, I even chopped that.

So.

So Sato's a good guy.

They saved the girl that come back

and Sato looks at the nephew and goes, no, to you.

I am dead.

And the nephew is just really bummed out

and just runs out into the Typhoon,

presumably never to be seen again.

But you know, he's gonna be seen again.

Question about that.

Is that a Sylvester Stallone?

Why didn't somebody stop this?

Doesn't Sato miss speak?

Isn't he supposed to say now to me?

You are dead?

Isn't he saying you're dead to me?

Not I'm dead.

I think I guess it backwards.

Well, the nephew for some reason thinks Sato's dead

under the log.

And then when he comes back and he goes,

Uncle, I thought you were dead.

So Sato puts that in his back pocket, throws a back at him.

But then in the final fight,

Chosen says, I'm dead to you.

Remember, like they, they fuck up the,

yeah, you're right.

They do kind of jump on it.

Yeah. Anyway, quick scene.

But when Sato apologizes to Miyagi,

no need to apologize.

And Daniel Sutton does the,

can we have the bone dance?

Can we do this in the castle?

And Sato looks at Miyagi and goes,

your student become my teacher.

Pointing your moment.

It is.

Really come all the way around leading to the final dance

fight scene.

Really great idea.

Gotta say best idea in the movie.

Take the bridge, gotta knock it out.

Daniel Sun, just not tournament, just for real.

Oh, yeah, let's fucking go.

Daniel Sun gets his ass kicked.

Yeah, the little drumstick thing he's bringing back.

And then how do you feel about close camera angle

to the two hand punch?

I don't feel great.

It seems to me that the drum technique

is entirely contingent on your enemy

has to throw the same exact punches

20 times in a row without moving.

It's kind of like the crane kick

is contingent upon your enemy running at you

with his chin out.

And it's like we talk about with Segal.

If you surround him and one by one,

each guy sprints directly at him, he's unbeatable.

But if you do anything else, you can kick his ass.

The drum technique and the camera angle

is not satisfying at all.

I don't even know what the fuck is going on.

So it seems like he's doing two hand swing punches,

like this.

Yes, yes.

Which has never been done before since in a movie

by literally anyone.

He's trying to do what he learns

up on the swinging spike thing up on the dock

where you dodge and punch and Sato just keeps,

or chosen just keeps throwing

and he just keeps hitting him with it.

It went from being like your cool movie fight

to like a ridiculous like Ty Bo routine.

It was strange.

I have a theory.

I don't know if it's true.

Let's hear it.

I think Macho might have gotten hurt during the fight.

Okay.

And that's why they had to like compromise.

That's the all this goes from like,

this is an awesome fight scene to now we have to go super close

to Macho doing this weird two hand thing.

And we don't get to see any athleticism

and I think he got hurt because he was fine.

I'm going to have Macho too.

Right.

Like when you deliver diamond, it's very,

that's like maybe he like tweaked his knee

or heard a hurt his ankle or something.

Leverdine.

That's great.

Plus rewatchable scene.

I'm at the final fight.

Like it's that setting is so good.

It actually looks like street fighter or mortal combat.

It's two fighters with like audience and risers

in the background.

It looks so cool.

It's final fight soon.

I have the Ty Bo and Hurricane

and whatever was going on there.

That's good too.

I really enjoy all of it.

I like stupid scenes like that where it's like some

sort of mass horrible event.

But everybody's going to be fine.

And there's bravery and people getting mad at each other.

What's the most 1986 thing about this movie for you?

You know, I had trouble identifying

like a kitschy piece of technology or something.

Like what did you have for years?

I had the Panasonic TV store that they look in.

And there's the TVs and they're all Panasonic.

So I don't think that's happening in 2026.

And I think they're watching the TV show Fame,

which is extremely 82.

I think Panasonic back then was running the game

in Zenith, a lot of Zeniths.

A lot of Zeniths.

I think for my most 86 for anything for me was like,

this movie is like the most earnest movie ever made.

There's no cynicism, there's no politics,

there's no Twitter fight.

It's just like love, honor.

That's all it is.

There's no underhanded message.

That's just how we did them back in 86.

That's what it is for me.

Yeah, there's nothing about like a white guy from

Macita going to Japan and uprooting

and this and that.

And this and that.

But I also had easily buying a last minute ticket

on Northwest Airlines to Japan.

It's very nice.

And then you mentioned this earlier,

the video game adaptation, the credit kid part two,

the computer game, which was a fighting game.

You could be Daniel and they had bonus levels

where you could catch flies with chopsticks

and break an ice block.

And these were video games that happened in 1986.

You are this was in 87 in this case, but it was just like,

hey, people like this movie.

Yes.

What if we take the character and what are the three things

that we did the movie will just make them levels

and then you would just call it a day.

I'm really excited for mine for this one.

The Floyd Gundall, a butter in my ass

and lollipops in my mouth, the word for something.

I just enjoy.

What did you have?

You go first.

I just I just love how when Satos

like got some extra time after work

or it's like a lazy Saturday, he just goes out in the backyard

just get some chops in just like just nothing.

So I'm gonna take the chop at this thing.

It's like how someone like makes beer in their grids

or like maybe they do their fantasy roster or something.

I like to woodwork such as like,

I just go out and get some chops in, release as my stress.

You wanna try?

It's been here for 45 years, I can't get it.

I don't know how his hand is not broken,

but I love that that's his hobby just chopping that same wood.

It's fun.

Did Satos like after the fifth take of that is like,

hey, it's gonna stunt hand in here.

I need a break here.

I think I broke my Metacarpal.

What do you got?

You said you were looking forward to it.

So I'm really excited to unleash this team.

My flood gun dolly, the Brad Wesley School of Villains.

Oh, awesome.

I'm already in.

Daniel Miyagi get off the plane in Okinawa

and they see a sign on the wall

and it's advertising Satos Karate Dojo.

But if you look carefully, there's a sign

for the Satos construction company.

Yeah.

There's a sign for Satos Escort Service.

And then to the left, Satos Reality.

So he said Escort's reality, construction and Karate

is the heart of how he kind of took over this village.

Very similar to Brad Wesley

who just don't everything in whatever town

that was in Roadhouse.

Goddamn JC Petty is coming here because of me.

Right.

Exactly right here is they Brad Wesley,

the tycoon who takes over the town

and pushes the people around.

I didn't know until recently that there was

a Satos Escort Service.

And they got advertisements in the airport right next to like,

so you want a condo?

Great.

You want some martial arts training?

Great.

Want three girls for right or three boys?

Give me a call.

Yeah.

Miyagi is like, Daniel son, I'm worried about you.

You wanted to come on this trip too bad.

I ordered three girls for best court service.

Satos Escort Service is my fantasy team in this room.

Just locking it up.

I got it guys.

Nobody else take it.

It's great.

People.

That would be a really good day.

Perfect.

People always ask us for advice.

How do we get in there?

How do we get into, how do I get on TV?

How do I get a podcast?

How'd you start writing?

I might just be like, you know what?

Go Sato.

Go to, he did physical activity.

He did building stuff with your hands.

He did sexual and he did land.

Like the four components.

If you could form businesses in those four areas,

like the sky's the limit.

You can own a whole village.

So the prostitution's legal.

He could just advertise, like, I guess it's Escort.

There's always a kind of a blurred line between that.

Okay.

Listen, that would have been a great scene.

This probably would have pushed it to an R.

But Miyagi and Daniel son go to find Satos Escort Service.

And I don't know.

Probably as Miyagi already has his Escort.

It's Daniel son.

That's the fact.

That's true.

What's age the best?

Four words, a Jerry wine trod production.

I'm just, I just know it's going to be good.

Also four of the words music by Bill Conti.

Yes sir.

Good hands.

It was, I gotta say nice to be reunited with the music in this.

And there was one of the reasons I think Copa Coy did really well.

It was just fun to hang with the music.

Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.

It's so heavy pan flute, especially in the first half an hour.

Like it's above Macho and Marita on the call sheet.

The pan flute is everywhere and it hits.

Well, it's like the cowbell has been ruined by the Wolfarel sketch.

Pan flute has been completely ruined by the cry of Kintro.

I mentioned Nobu McCarthy our second rewatchables with her.

You mentioned Daniel wearing the Japanese headband here in the movie.

And just Daniel's love of headbands in general, which was basically in the 80s.

It was him.

Was the lead singer and lover boy and it was Stevie band's aunt.

And those were the three.

And I gotta say nobody else.

That one other person to Pat Benatar were one.

I'm no, that was it lover boy.

Miyagi.

I've been a Daniel son.

Stallone with it with the head tie like that in Rambo.

Like that was the way.

Yeah, it's a lonely guy.

It's a fairly elite group.

Yeah.

And it ended in and ended in 1990.

I wrote down Miyagi just regularly and unironically talking about himself

and the third person.

Oh, dude.

It's great.

I had this unanswerable question.

Is Miyagi the third person goat?

Like is he the one because he does it relentlessly?

And I even, I'm sitting here, I banged out here.

Here's my here's my third person rush more from my guy.

Oh, let's hear it.

I got Miyagi.

I got Elmo, who's been everywhere recently.

He's at the World Cup Super Bowl and everything like that.

I got Bob Dole, especially Norm McDonald's version of Bob Dole.

Bob Dole likes being about her Bob Dole.

And then I have Ricky Henderson in the four spot, who's probably the greatest athlete with it.

That's my four.

But Miyagi's on it.

He's like, third person king.

That's really good.

That's a really good top four.

I feel like there should be a rapper in there, but I can't think of the top of my head who that is.

Yeah.

Because there's been a couple rappers that throw themselves in there.

But yeah, I mean Miyagi, he does it seamlessly.

You don't even realize he's doing it.

It's like Miyagi, not sure.

And it's like, oh, you're Miyagi.

You know, let's feel like he's talking about somebody else.

And it's not like Sato and Chosen are doing it.

Like it's not like in the village, they all do it.

Miyagi is just choosing to do it.

I'm not sure why.

Ricky Henderson.

That's a great one.

Ricky this.

Ricky that's the best.

My other would say it's the best.

The glory of love by Peter Sattero.

You mentioned this top.

Not only a number one hit, not made a foreign Oscar.

Nominate for an Oscar and lost to another one seed.

Take my breath away Berlin top guy.

I know.

I know.

It's tough.

I think the better song lost.

And I think that here's what's funny.

I think that this song in so many ways has become the legacy of this movie.

Like, perfect example.

I'm talking to the listener.

Bill and I were texting a few nights ago with Shrager.

We're texting about a lot of things that I would not share on Mike.

Yeah.

Bill mentions that I know where.

Hey, Kyle and I are doing credit kid two next week.

Shrager immediately three dots.

The first thing he texts, I am a man who will fight for your honor.

Like the first thing from credit.

I think it's a thing of yes.

Um, I'll give you some of the lyrics.

I am a manual fight for your honor.

I'll be the hero you're dreaming of.

We'll live forever knowing together.

That we did it all for the glory of love.

Pretty good way of wooing a lady.

What a panty dropper.

Yeah, we'll live forever.

No, we did this for the glory of love.

Like, we've started the rest of us.

Jesus.

I'm going to do a podcast.

No, no, right now.

I don't care.

Stop this podcast.

Press pause.

Go type in glory of love by Peter Satara.

Listen to the song and come back, but you won't come back.

You'll go find your wife and make love to them.

Like, just find anybody and make love to them.

It's so good.

I love this song.

You keep me standing tall.

You help me through it all.

I'm always strong when you're beside me.

I've always needed you.

I could never make it alone.

It's beautiful.

Girls are like my pants are down.

It's over.

How about in the third verse, he's like like a knight in shining armor.

I'm going to take you to my castle from a long time ago.

Just in time, I will save the day and take you to my castle far away.

So we should mention for the, for the young ones out there.

Peter Satara was the lead singer of Chicago.

Yes.

Who soft rock icons in the 70s now have bled into Yacht Rock.

And I'm like firm on these are not Yacht Rock.

Chicago cannot be a Yacht Rock.

I'm not allowed.

You're over here.

You're in the 70s side with seals and croft and some other ones.

Like when bread, you're just on this side.

Yacht Rock is over here.

But they were really successful.

I mean, it was, I think one of the most successful 70s bands.

And then he brought me to know my life.

You're the inspiration.

Huge hit 25 or six to four, like a whole bunch of them.

So he broke off started his own thing, little like Phil Collins, leaving Genesis.

Yes.

Here are the August 2nd comes number one.

Here's who we beat out.

Number two, sled chamber, Peter Gabriel.

Awesome.

I want to be a sledge hammer.

Number three, danger zone by Kenny Loggins.

Heat.

Bannown, banan, banan, banan, banan, banan, banan, banan, banan, banan.

Pop it home preach by Madonna.

Okay.

Invisible touch by Genesis and higher.

Seems to happen invisible touch.

These are my songs.

I love it.

High FM radio is everywhere.

What's higher love by Steve Wynwood with six?

And then think about it.

Dropping out of number nine, take me home tonight by any money.

Yeah.

I was fired up to see him there.

So anyway, awesome.

Got it.

So good.

That's our glory.

Love break.

I have two more.

I have a ceremony when you decide to fall in love.

Oh, yeah.

Love ceremony.

So Camillo's like, here's what we do.

I make this tea and I turn the cups back and forth.

And yeah, if somebody had done this for me who looked like her when I was between the

ages of 15 and 18, I would have needed medical attention.

There's no question.

It would have been just enough to have somebody like me, but to also be like, here's my

tea ceremony.

And then I'm going to take stuff out of my hair.

I would have been like, do whatever you want.

You do a 12 course meal.

Is it not going to get some boob or something?

How do you do anything for a little room somewhere and a fucking typhoon going full

forest gump in Jenny's room?

Yes.

Yes.

And then my last one was Sato with the fastest heel to baby face turn in movie history.

The reverse of Hulk Hogan turning NWO.

Yeah.

Just instantaneously.

Good guy.

What did you have for what's it's the best?

We covered almost all of them except for one of my favorite things.

We've talked about this in the 80s movies.

From the time the villain is defeated till when the the credits role is minuscule.

I had it at 35 seconds before chosen as knocked out.

We get credits.

The fastest we've ever seen is when we did we did sudden death with Van Dam in the

hot.

And it all blows up.

And like I think it's like 12 seconds and they're like, get out of here.

The 430 show ends coming and get out of your seats.

35 seconds.

They just don't do that anymore.

They don't.

And I'm like, I saw the Odyssey when he gets home and he he kills the Robert Pattinson.

They don't roll the credits as Pattinson's dying.

They do here.

Right.

That's a great one.

Great shot.

Gordo.

I should be the picture of Daniel.

Consolio Miyagi is a good one.

What do you have?

All right.

So back to Satara.

They're on the date and Camico and Daniel son are running on the rocks.

And the Satara kicks in and it's when he goes take you to my castle.

And as he hits the word castle, the castle reveals itself.

And it's just like somebody editing.

It was just just slighting a fucking cigarette and putting his feet up on the table.

Yeah.

I nailed that shit with Satara.

Take me to my castle.

And it's perfect.

Denathy's been in honor where it seems to be in location.

Okinawa, which I was ashamed to find out in the research is not Okinawa.

It's Hawaii.

Yeah.

It's fine.

A lot easier.

A lot easier.

Yeah.

It's a lot cheaper.

But I thought that was great.

But the winner is the climactic dance location in the castle.

Pretty cool.

It's so good.

Castle is a great location.

Love that.

Like when they were building that, they're like people are going to have some sick

final battles here in this place.

And like it looks great.

Chess Rockwell, Brock Lane is a word for best character name.

It's got to be Sato, right?

You have some else.

I would hear Chosen, like right on the nose.

Chosen with the Z.

Yeah.

It's there's a funny online joke right now where Tom Holland's character in the

Odyssey, telemicus.

He has a character who's his mentor and the character's name is mentor.

And people are like, why would you just name a mentor?

And then it's like, no, that's where the word mentor originated.

Right.

From that character.

That's why he's mentor.

So I think like Chosen is right on the nose.

He's the chosen one to follow Sato.

Right.

Kid Cuddy pursued happiness were a best needle drop.

Obviously, Gloria of love.

And was there a better title for this movie?

So instead of Karate Kid Part 2, what if I offered you Karate Kid 2, dot, dot,

Okinawa.

Hmm.

I like a subtitle.

I could I sell you on Karate Kid 2, Okinawa drift.

Like I think they were right there.

Oh, I like that.

I'm like, I'm super serious.

Yeah.

I think it's like Karate Kid 2, Okinawa honor or something like that, but they

just called it too.

And then they just called it three.

I think it could use a subtitle.

Yeah.

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All right.

So I was trying to make it work with the Peter North award for

commitments.

Only so I could bring it up.

Bill, have you seen this?

Like there's a Peter North documentary coming out.

I'm well aware early August.

All right.

I just figured you and Sean were behind it.

It's not your project.

Yeah.

I don't know if Sean's covering it on the big picture.

I'm not being covering it on the Bill Simmons podcast.

Dude, I so I have such a strange.

Like I feel so gross watching it, but I kind of have to watch it.

Yeah.

And the the the the fucking tag lines.

Wait till you get a load of him.

And I'm like, yeah.

I got there having lots of fun with the phrase coming suit.

Like all kinds of stuff.

So I couldn't find Peter North.

Though this is what I went with instead.

I went with the Todd Parker award for best character entrance.

You already mentioned we saw the Satoh posters at the airport.

They drive him to a warehouse.

You know something's bad.

It's all this warehouse lighting.

The henchmen are there, the hard handshake.

And then in the background in this incredibly lit scene,

Satoh walks out like fucking Darth Vader onto the tent of four.

He's got Hans Gruber's double breast suit.

He's got Mab's aviators.

It's got this beautiful blow dried salt and pepper hair.

And then Miyagi's like Satoh and Satoh goes so coward.

Your return.

And I was like, fucking Satoh.

That's how you went through a movie.

Yeah.

I don't know what Miyagi thought he would be so excited to see him.

He wanted to like hug it out.

Yeah.

Let's go.

Like fucking kill you.

He was ready to kill him right there in the warehouse.

And like it just lets you know Satoh means business.

And it's a great character entrance.

But just girlfriend award for weak link of the film.

I have a good one for this.

But what do you have?

Uh, and you know more karate in my karate kit movie.

Just just a little more.

We are at the 58 minute mark an hour in before somebody gets kicked.

It's just like I know that we're doing the Okinawa thing and we're doing

like a thinking man's movie.

But I just need a little more fighting.

I've already mentioned a crease Miyagi, Satoh Miyagi.

We just need more of that.

I like the relationship stuff, but you got to give us a little more sugar early on.

Yeah.

If you're pay per viewing a porn, it can't be 58 minutes and the first time somebody gets naked.

You're going to sprinkle it a little.

Yeah.

Do a little karate along the way.

I had a surprise you missed this one.

Okay.

Sometimes student become teacher.

So Miyagi had a dead wife from karate kid one.

Oh, yeah.

Get what happened here?

Super drunk.

Remember in private.

One yes.

Yes.

And uh, starts talking about her and it's her birthday and he gets like absolutely hammered.

Dana son has to put in a bed.

He goes through some of his stuff and obviously really loved the dead wife.

That wasn't, wasn't the girl he left behind in Okinawa.

Never mentions kind of kind of sticks in the back pocket.

Never brings it up.

She doesn't seem to know that he got married.

Right.

Kind of kind of keeps it secret from her.

And she's Japanese, right?

She's not like from California.

Like she's not American.

Like she's not white woman.

This is Japanese.

But you might have been a Japanese American that he met after one or two, but he said

hey, you never married and in Kratiketsu, the lady says, you know, I never did.

Mm.

There's a moment there who's like, I actually did get married, but my wife is now dead.

Nothing doesn't, doesn't give anything to her.

Just kind of hides it.

She's going to find out at some point and honestly, we're robbed from the scene of her getting mad

that Miyagi got married.

You got married mother fucker up and living here in Okinawa from 45 years.

This guy Satou.

He's tortures me.

He's got the escort service and construction.

He was the dean of the village.

I wasn't able to get married and you got fucking married mother fucker.

Or or Miyagi says it and she's like, I'm so glad you said that.

I've been married three times.

Yeah, I can't keep a man.

I've been married everybody in the village.

Anybody who will marry me.

I'm glad you said that.

I worked for the escort service.

Or she thought, God, you said that.

I thought you were with Daniel son.

What's age the worst?

There's a clear winner for this.

Camico just gets fucking punched in the scene.

It's horrible.

It's stunning.

It's awful.

Yes.

I was watching with my son and when it when chosen

point doesn't slap her like it's a punch.

My son was like, oh, gave one of those.

It's shocking.

We see this a lot.

We see it a lot where the woman tries to help and it's often like kind of trying to choke from behind.

And a lot of times she'll get like thrown or something and it's all horrible or like she'll get backhanded.

And I don't want to like calibrate the violence.

But to your point, the full on roundhouse right was excessive.

And I was like, oh, shit.

They didn't do that.

Like he just full on full punches are no.

This is like Dremon punching out Georgia pool.

Like this was like this is this is like Washington.

Yeah.

This is fucking horrible.

I can't believe like unbelievable.

I can't believe the director was like just do every time we have this scene.

It's always the the backhand slap where you could be like,

I maybe he didn't realize she was there.

But this is like, no, he's actually just punching her.

It's pretty brutal.

I was surprised.

More with Sage the worst.

Every Daniel scene with Kameka, like as great as she looks,

like I can't say like the sexual attention is lighting my TV on fire.

It's a little bit.

It's a little.

This is we all house for you.

It's a little Tom Cruise Jennifer Connelly.

It's a little silly.

Like we're not there's not real fireworks here.

But I every scene I'm just looking at her.

I'm like, I actually so pretty such a pretty actress,

but it's not great between them.

My next one, Jay's versus the poster.

Oh, what do you got?

Can you see?

Yeah, yeah, you got the keyboard up.

Oh, damn.

So it's a profile shot with them on the sun and then like what's the tag line?

Yeah, you're dead fucking serious too.

It's just like, oh, I kept it in the keyboard thing.

It's just, it's Daniel's son just kind of behind Miyagi.

I don't know.

I might have gone with Plan B.

It's not exactly like a date movie.

And then I had Miyagi break in the guy code with Sado.

I just as always bug me for 40 years.

What did you have for what's at your worst?

I covered almost all and creased beating up the students.

Miyagi's fighting Miyagi's Danielson relationship.

That's what I got.

Okay.

Ruffalo Han and Rubin have purchased overacting word.

It has to be Sado.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's master.

It is like this.

What about Shosen?

Broken ice or broken neck?

Oh, yeah, he's bringing it to.

But in their dojo, they act hard.

I support both of it.

All right, the CR thinks Luke Wilson should have been

Harris support Highest State Board.

What do you have?

I got something.

Um, the reason that Elizabeth Shoe is not in this movie

is Troy Ackman.

Hear me out.

In this year 1986, a young quarterback transferred from Oklahoma

under Barry Switzer to Terry Donohos UCLA Bruins.

Because of the transfer rule, that quarterback

Drakeman had to sit out for a year.

Ackman sitting around in LA, nothing to do.

A little bit bored.

He's got the feathered Johnny Hare.

He's got the leather jacket.

He's a jock.

I think he's 20.

Alley's 18.

They met.

She loved them.

He's very charismatic.

And because of Troy Ackman, my EFPN colleague, Bill Simmons,

that is the reason that Alley broke up with Daniela Russo,

because of Troy Ackman.

The parents are steering her toward him.

Yes.

This kid is going to be a big star.

Yeah, this guy's this is the kind of person you should be dating.

Not this weirdo who hangs out with the maintenance man

in his apartment building.

Dressed up as a shower.

Yeah.

No, yeah, no, get away from the star.

This guy's Hitcher Ragantam.

And they yes, I really like that.

Yeah, 1986.

The timeline does work.

Um,

I just think two and three should have been swapped

in the cry to ketrology.

Tell them, tell me why this is good.

We go two is a year later,

the breakup makes that maybe Daniel drops out of college.

The breakup makes more sense.

Um, the tournament's coming.

It's a little closer.

Maybe he's not too old to be in the tournament,

like look, like in three.

And then they could go to Japan for three.

He can be any age at that.

He can be a junior in college at that point.

And that's a really matter.

It doesn't have to be like the next day

this 18-year-old gig on in Japan.

And I think it's a better third movie.

It's a good take.

I think that their burden was with this movie.

They're like, how do we kick it up a notch?

How do we blow it up?

Yeah, because the essence of this movie

is it's not a tournament anymore.

This is for real.

That's like the line and everything.

In fact, there's that moment on the airplane.

It's almost like an okay mother-fucker moment.

Where Dan is like, there's no referee.

How do you know who wins?

And Miyagi's like, the one who doesn't die doesn't win.

Like he's like, oh, shit.

That's how it is now.

Because the real problem with that bill

is that how do you then come back to the tournament

for the credit card three,

which is a whole different burden?

Yeah, we'll deal with that with the credit card three.

Oh, yeah.

Casting what ifs.

So Elizabeth Shoe was kind of salty.

She wasn't in KK2.

She had gone to do studies at Harvard

and wasn't pleased with getting written out

didn't like the use soy football thing.

She was like, I would have done it.

But I think she makes out fine

not being in this person.

She fell into the back to the future franchise.

But I don't, that's fine.

That's fine.

It's fine.

Bill Conti chose to score this movie

instead of Rocky IV.

Okay.

Tell me more.

Goes further.

Peter Satera wrote,

Gloria of Love for Rocky IV,

Stallone rejected it in favor of Hearts on Fire.

Okay.

I think all this worked out perfectly.

It did.

And here's why.

Gloria of Love is a love song.

Rocky IV is not a love movie.

Rocky IV is a revenge movie.

It's a revenge movie.

It's a revenge movie.

Yes.

And like I think Gloria of Love,

I was saying it's like maybe the most romantic song

ever written.

It's still not even in the top three songs in Rocky IV.

I would take training montage.

Hearts on Fire.

And no easy way out all over them.

It's like there's no room at the end.

I'm sorry, Gloria.

Love you're great, but not in this movie.

Gloria of Love does make sense to me in Rocky IV.

No, it's not a love movie.

I think it all worked out.

Best that guy, Sato.

I don't even care what his real name is.

If I see him in anything else, it's like Sato.

Well, no, we definitely Sato,

but we got to shout out our guy, Clarence Gileard.

I mean, the guy who is sundown in Top Gun,

the guy who is Theo and Die Hard,

the guy from War of Receptor Stranger,

he's at the ice bar.

He's kind of like the MC.

He's got a tank top on.

And he did this end top gun in the same fucking year.

Like everything was coming up, Clarence Gileard,

whose name I didn't know,

but I've been watching him my whole life.

That's so good.

I didn't even have him written down.

You even trumped me on that one.

I think you're right.

Clarence Gileard.

And by the way, I wish they would have thrown him a bone

and put him in Top Gun Maverick.

No sundown presence.

And now he's passed away.

So yeah, he's not with us.

Damn, waiters the word goes to crease.

He's in one scene crushes it.

Oh, yeah.

Perfect.

My recasting couch director,

city, Elizabeth Schuere should have had a scene in this movie.

I know.

They have a break up scene.

Have Daniel Sahn at the prom.

We can get Johnny Lawrence in there.

We can have her with some quarterback

and Daniel Sahn storming out in the,

like why not?

What's the downside?

Tough movie for Williams, Abka, huh?

Like he just shows up, gets choked out

and then he's not in it anymore.

He must have.

I know.

You know what I mean, I got it.

This is like he's writing them swing of things here

with just one of the guys back to school.

He's got, he's got to go in and then he's like,

basically fodder in this one.

Half-asstern research, they filmed in Oahu

in a place a part of the island known as the Windward side.

Apparently the actor B.D. Wong shows up at the dance.

He's a kid.

So he's in there.

Oh, B.D. Wong from Howard Weinstein from Prince,

from a father of the bride, Jurassic Park.

He shows up. He's like, Hey, there's a dance going on.

And he was like, there's B.D. Wong.

Like that's the man he was in order too.

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