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This is an I Heart Podcast.

Guaranteed Human.

MJ Ned.

The entire world has forgotten Peter Parker,

which is taking some of the fun out of being Spider-Man.

It's Spider-Man Brand New Day,

which is currently Hulk smashing box office records

all over the globe.

I'm Matt Singer.

And I'm Jordan Hoffman.

With more movies, more series, more stuff going straight

to streaming than ever before,

it felt like the right time for a podcast that keeps track of it all.

And that podcast is film spotting SVU,

the podcast you were listening to right now.

This week, Brand New Day gives us a chance to talk about all things Spider-Man,

including the many web slinging titles that are available to stream.

Plus, some Brand New Day related streaming racks,

plus this week's new to VOD and streaming titles, and a game.

We're going to find out how well we know our Spider-Man villains aren't we, Matt?

And Matt's going to know them better than me.

I'm going to bet that I know them better than you, Jordan Hoffman.

You're Mr. Spider-Man.

You are the Spider-Man.

You are the Spider-Man.

You are the Spider-Man.

My legal last name is Matthew Spiderman, many people have been trying to do this.

That's right.

So, anyway, where is it all coming up, Matt?

It's all coming up on Film Spotting SVU.

Welcome to Film Spotting SVU.

I'm Matt Singer and Jordan.

We were supposed to be.

I was hoodwinked and bamboozled into believing this was a friendly neighborhood streaming podcast.

And now, this is our second episode, or we did have a week off in between.

But this is our second consecutive episode where the main, the headline subject is a movie that's only available

in theaters.

Well, that's your fault, Matt.

What's all your fault?

It's, listen, it's not my business that you have declared yourself one of the Internet's

foremost experts on Spider-Man.

Spider-Man is your guy.

Spider-Man.

Spider-Man.

Yeah.

Spider-Hyphen Man.

Correct.

As it happens, the listeners may not know Matt Singer isn't just your friendly neighborhood

podcast, but he has a published author about Spider-Man.

What is Spider-Man?

That is true.

He loves it more than many members of his own family.

And the room next to this is a whole, is my bookshelf, which has actual books, but then lots of Spider-Man

memorabilia and Spider-Man toys, Spider-Man, Chachkees.

All right.

Anyway, the point is this.

Okay.

Matt Singer really knows his Spider-Man, which is embarrassing because he's an allegedly an adult, but he really knows his Spider-Man.

And we're going to, and so we, we be fools to not take advantage to exploit, to exploit the wisdom that appears on this show each week.

Hence, we're going to talk about Spider-Man this week.

Now, in addition to that, we'll also do our usual thing with, you know, the Rex egg and all that plus the game.

Do you know what, what podcast we're recording right now, Joe?

I didn't get much sleep last night.

What do you want from me?

Okay.

So listen, we're going to start off, you were on cross promotion, other great film spotting show.

Tell us about that real quick.

Right.

That is true.

Yes.

I was on the new film spotting spin off movie Deathmatch.

And it was me and Slates Daisy Rosario.

We were discussing, again, Spider-Man.

I'm being typecast here.

I don't know if it's the glasses, the pasty skin, the pocket protector.

The fact that I am actually wearing a Spider-Man hat right now.

But people keep asking me to talk about Spider-Man right now.

What is film spotting's deathmatch?

Because film spotting the greatest of all movie podcasting networks.

Web works, if you will, on Spider-Man lore.

They have so many great podcasts.

What is deathmatch?

Movie deathmatch is, it's kind of like the college debate of mixed with a podcast

where two people each take a side and a impossible to resolve,

which is superior in this case.

And the two Spider-Man movies that were up for debate were Spider-Man 2

and Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse.

And which reigns supreme?

And so we discussed back and forth.

It was a lot of fun actually.

It was super fun to record.

I haven't listened to the final episode yet, but I'm sure it was fun because it was super fun to talk about at least.

So do you come in with, did you already know I choose X and the other two choose Y?

Yes, yes, we're prepped in advance for which one you're going to.

Well, I did, I will admit, I did say I don't care.

I can, I can defend anything Spider-Man for no principles.

You're a man of no principles and you would just take whatever side of the team.

I have no moral fiber and I have no screwballs.

Right.

As long as you didn't make me defend the amazing Spider-Man,

I could have probably done just about any any movie in that franchise.

But I did Spider-Man 2, which I do indeed love.

I also came with good things to say about into the Spider-Verse.

Another movie I also love.

But yeah, you can find the podcast, wherever you listen to podcasts,

Movie Death Match is the name of the podcast.

I think it is available in the main film spotting feed as well.

So it's very easy to find.

You can also just Google like Movie Death Match Spider-Man.

And I'm sure it will come up.

And yeah, it was really, it was really, really fun.

It was way more fun than this podcast.

Oh snap.

Nobody was, nobody was insulting my intelligence because I like Spider-Man on that one.

What should we talk about with regard to one, Spiderman?

Well, let me tell you listeners of SVU, so the legend goes.

A young writer by the name of Stanley Lieber was watching a fly crawl up a wall

and he thought to himself, gee, wouldn't that be an interesting power for a superhero to have?

So he dabbled with some new creations, fly man, mosquito man, insect man.

None of them really worked.

But he finally came across Spider-Man.

And thus the legend was born.

That is, if you believe Stanley, a well known con man.

By con man, of course, I mean, convention man.

You know, it went to a lot of, it went to a lot of convention.

That's right.

Please don't want to say anything negative about him.

He also decided that this time the superhero would be a teenager because up until this point, most complicated heroes were not teenagers.

Even though that was, who was primarily reading this stuff?

It was the teenagers were the sidekicks like Robin and Bucky and things like that.

Anyhow, Spider-Man, as I think we all know, became a big success.

And of course, Spider-Man has made his way on to film screens many times.

First in 2002 via Sam Raimi in one of the finest superhero movies ever made.

And then there was Spider-Man 2, which many people prefer.

And we've just learned that Matt Singer does too.

I, because it includes Dr. Octopus.

Even though I'm told that Dr. Octopus is merely an osteopathy.

Anyhow, the third Sam Raimi movie was good too.

Even though it was a shaggy mess and it got a negative, not a negative reviews.

If you watch it again, you'll find that it's actually a lot of fun.

And certainly better than most of the superhero movies of today.

But then after these three Toby McGuire, lead Sam Raimi,

Spider-Man movies there was two starring Andrew Garfield,

which I barely remember, even though I did see them both,

until finally Tom Holland swung into the role first, not in his own movie,

but as he was part of the Avengers and one of those.

And blah, blah, blah.

But then eventually there was a nice trilogy where he and his friends played by Zendaya

and Jacob Battalon.

And then now there's a fourth one.

And I gotta be honest with you and the listeners.

I have seen all of the Tom Holland movies.

I can't lie and say that they've really stayed with me.

I remember a big sequence at the Washington Monument.

And I remember a big sequence.

That was the first one.

Spider-Man, how come?

When Andrew Garfield and Toby McGuire showed up and all three Spider-Man

were zipping around on like a big bunch of metal sticks.

A bunch of metal sticks.

That's for scaffolding.

You lived in New York for like 25 years.

You don't know what a scaffolding is called.

A scaffolding is.

And then there was a lot of other stuff.

I don't really remember any of it.

It was not a third film.

Yeah, and there was a second one.

No clue.

No memory.

Far from home.

I've watched all of them.

In your own house.

And Mysterio.

Jake Gyllenhaal.

Oh, yeah, I do remember Jake Gyllenhaal.

Nick Fury with Samuel Jackson was in that one.

No memory.

No memory.

No memory.

So here's the thing.

These movies are fine.

And they're better than most.

But they're for young people.

And I think that's what we want to talk about today is the new one.

It's making a billion dollars and under a week.

Billion.

Yes.

Everybody loves it.

Well, that's not true.

Everybody even thinks it's fine like me.

Or they love it.

Which is great for them.

But I think it's for some reason I just I don't quite see how it's that good.

But I don't want to be negative.

And more importantly, I want to ask you what you think.

Because you are the King Spider-Man.

And I need to know.

And I just being a weirdo for thinking this movie is a B-plus.

Or does it deserve its billion dollar take at the box?

I mean, it is a, I mean, both things could be kind of true.

It's not a A-plus certainly.

And I would not be ready to argue it's better than Spider-Man 2 or into the Spider-verse on movie Deathmatch.

But it's a very pleasant film.

Does it into the Spider-verse even count?

Because that's a cartoon.

What, why wouldn't it count among Spider-Man films?

It's a Spider-Man movie that was released in movie theaters when what, in what multi-verse when it not count.

I just, I wouldn't even think of to include it because it's not a real movie.

You have such a, you have such a bias against animated movies which the,

you haven't, hasn't really come up on this podcast much yet.

It will eventually.

I think it's fine.

I just, like, you know, I just did a little quick summation of the Spider-Man films.

It never dawned on me to include into the Spider-Man movie.

It has more Spider-Man in it than any other movie, you know, per minute.

Yeah, but that's animated.

You could do anything in animation.

In a real movie, you have to go and get an actor to come to set, to shoot him with a camera and a cartoon.

You just draw it on a piece of paper.

They're, they're, they're fictional films filled with special effects.

Do you, I mean, let me, let me put this in a language that you could understand.

Do you, do you not treasure the Star Trek animated series from the 1970s?

Does that not, I know it's maybe canonically it did not count.

But doesn't that, isn't it wonderful and marvelous even though it's animated?

Yeah, I suppose, but it's not, but it's definitely like, you know, well, we can't do real Star Trek.

So let's do this animated.

But it has all the, it has all their voices.

That's true. Well, that's the thing.

There's that one episode that's about Spock's childhood that's really good.

Yeah, when that actually is really good.

See, see, see.

So you're saying I should watch into the spider verse.

Are you telling me you've never watched into the spider verse?

Never, never, it would never dawn on me to watch it.

You like, I, because it's like, where would I even see it?

It's like on Nickelodeon or something, right?

I mean, where would I even go and see it watch it?

You know, we do have listeners who enjoy animated movies.

And you're just, you're just denigrating them.

Some animated movies are good.

I like, I like some of them there, you know, avatars pretty good.

That's not bad. I mean, you know, this is part of the thing that Jordan does

where he dismisses the entire genre of animation,

the entire medium of animation.

And then accuses Avatar of being an animated movie because of accusation.

It's just honest. It's all, it's all computer-generated blue guys running around.

Most animated movies.

Plus the kid. What's the kid's name?

Spider. Spider.

Spider.

Spider.

Spider man. He's a spider kid.

No, he's a spider kid.

Spider.

Spider man.

But yeah, getting back to the, getting back to the matter in hand.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Let's see how many trains you can do rail in one episode of Film Spawning SVU.

You're up to two so far, I think, by my count.

Let's talk about the in-all sincerity.

You are, you are the king of spider man.

I love spider man.

I love, I do love spider man.

Yeah, yeah.

I am not so blind.

Blinded by my love of Spider man that I can't, I have to love everything Spider man.

There's been bad Spider man movies and comics and TV shows.

I already, I was saying, I do not like the Andrew Garfield Spider man movies.

Both of them. I think they stink.

I don't have an issue with him, but I don't think those are good movies at all.

So I would tell you if I thought the new movie was, was, was bad.

And I don't, I think it's quite good.

I think they did a great job.

I think, and I think I am surprised, I'm never surprised when people like Spider man,

because I love Spider man, and I understand why people like the character.

I am shocked it is doing as well as it, as it is doing.

That's the part that's a little bit weird.

Now I like the movie too.

I mean, I, I, I didn't do backflips, like, I'm gonna be real, I'm gonna be real honest,

which is severity for me.

Now, I'm gonna be, there was it, when I go to the movies,

I really hate to have to go to the bathroom during the movie,

because I don't want to miss anything.

I get a little crazy in the ass.

But in this one, I really, really, really did have to pee,

but I, I, I just blazed through it.

I just said, no, no, I can do it.

And I was in a lot of pain toward the end, but I stayed with it.

If I didn't care about the movie, I would have just gone.

It is a lot of motion picture as well.

It's, it's not short.

And then, so I missed the little post credits thing, but that's okay.

But that's fine.

It wasn't much.

I read about it.

And ironically, that was animated.

Oh, was it really?

Yes.

I still haven't seen it.

I had to go, I had to go to like one of the, I had to go to like collider.com

and say, you know, the minute the movie ended, like, was there a post credit sequence?

And they were like, yes.

They were like, yes.

They were like, yes.

They were like, yes.

They were like, yes.

All right, anyway, so, uh, so this is the thing.

Why is this movie doing so well?

That is a very good question.

And it's one that I've been thinking about because, well, I, the reason I'm,

somewhat befuddled is really two main reasons.

One is, you know, I keep hearing how, ah, these Marvel's dead.

Marvel is over.

DC is over.

Nobody cares anymore.

These movies, you know, they had their time.

And now we're, we're past it.

We're moving into a new era, a new era of original films and movies made by 20

year olds who made things on.

Obsessions and obsession.

Which I like those movies.

I don't have a problem with that.

I mean, that sounds kind of honestly like if that was the main thing Hollywood made for.

Hollywood made for a year or two, I would be very excited about that to see what they made.

Um, and this flies in the face of all of that because this movie is gigantic.

It's as big or a, a bigger than any of these movies, including the Avengers and all these huge, huge blockbusters.

And that kind of brings me to the second reason I'm so shocked is that I would have thought no Spider-Man movie could have topped the last movie.

Certainly financially, because it had all of the Spider-Man and it was this big fan servicy.

And I say this as a fan.

It was a huge fan servicy, you know, circle, you know what?

Just totally catering to, you know, every dream of, oh, what would happen if all the Spider-Man hung out together?

That would be so exciting.

And it was exciting, I suppose.

Yeah.

Um, and so it's like, how do you top that in a movie that doesn't have the other Spider-Man?

Right.

And I have one, this is not a theory.

You have a theory?

No, this is not a theory.

This is a fact about the money.

This is not about the creative aspects of the new film.

That last one, the third one never opened in China.

China is a little bit weird about what they led in.

They have a cap.

And the third Holland Spider-Man film never made it to China.

I see.

So this one did open.

And it's already done well there.

And that might explain some of the, but that doesn't explain why it's doing so well like in the United States.

Correct.

And all over the world.

And I guess, you know, my theory right now is that one, people really do like Tom Holland in this character.

They like Zendaya.

Yeah.

It has this movie, it has them kind of what seems like their peak.

You know, they're huge stars.

And I'm seeing them everywhere.

They're working their butts off to promote it.

And, you know, and they're married in real life.

They're married in their, yeah.

And they're a power couple.

And, you know, the movie lets you see them together.

You know, they're both in the, just in the Odyssey, but they didn't really have any, any scenes together.

So here you kind of get the, you know, the fun, metatextual element of watching this real life couple as a couple in the film.

But I don't know.

I guess I, I think it is really just that what they did do a good job of suggesting in the trailers, in the marketing.

And it's true of the movie is just like, you don't need to know nothing about this.

It's Spider-Man.

You know, like there's no multiverse.

There's, who even cares what the villain is that, you know, they didn't really even have a main villain in the commercials.

It's kind of a fake out.

Yeah.

It's kind of a fake out.

You think, here's what I thought.

Because, you know, Spider-Man's going through his problems.

He has too much arachnid DNA within him, which is a problem we could all have.

I thought that it was going to be revealed that there was some bad guy manipulating that.

But it wasn't.

It was just he had an imbalance and, you know, because he had, right?

It's a metaphorical imbalance as so many things in Spider-Man are.

Yes.

And a sexual imbalance.

Let's be honest.

He's a young man.

The Spider-Man is supposed to be 22, 23 college age.

And he's not dating anybody.

He's got to let that all out.

Only the listeners could see how wide your eyes got when you said sexual imbalance.

Do you really should be videotaping this podcast?

Tom Holland is 30 years old and Zendaya is 29.

They're not kids.

They look really young.

No, he still looks pretty young.

I would say, yes, he's still convincing.

He is younger.

They're both younger looking than the actors who did these, you know, the previous set where, you know,

by the third movie, Toby McGuire did not look like a young grad student at Empire State University.

And Andrew Garfield in the first movie, you know, he has kind of, I always say it looks like, you know,

he's like 90210 teenager in the first movie.

Right.

You know, it's like it, and he's so handsome and he's got beautiful hair.

Of course.

It's like what a Dylan Walsh from 902 and Obey came Spider-Man.

He's smoldering.

He's gorgeous.

Yeah.

It's, it's not my life.

So the thing is these characters are naturally looking very young unless they're like, I don't know,

drinking a dream of chrome all evening, but they've looked very young.

So they're going to be making these movies forever, basically.

I mean, there's so much money at this movie.

Yeah.

I would say all the guarantees they make at least one more of these.

They take a long time to get all the schedules and the stars aligned.

So I wouldn't bet on more than one for sure, but for sure they're going to not make another one.

There's too much money at stake.

They're making, I mean, you know, Ned will look 45, but the rest of the other two will still look 19 forever.

So that'll be it.

That'll be funny.

It's pretty clear that, you know, and this is a well-known fact.

Is that Sony to keep that Spider-Man license, which they will obviously never let go because...

For sure.

...as this movie proves, these movies are a, as the only thing left in Hollywood that is guaranteed to make money every single time.

Yeah.

They have to make a new one every certain amount of years.

I don't know the exact number, but it's like the contract hinges on.

Every certain number of years, you must put a new movie into development or you eventually lose the license.

It reverts back to Marvel and Disney.

And so that means they cannot ever not make one, which is why there will be a fifth one with Tom Holland.

And that's why there is the amazing Spider-Man, is they were trying for several years to make Spider-Man four with Sam Remy and Toby McGuire.

And it fell apart and it wasn't going to happen.

And they're like, we got to do something.

And it's like, what can we do quickly?

It's like, well, we could just make another origin story.

And we could just, you know, we could basically remake the first Spider-Man.

And so that is essentially how that happened.

But what's smart is that Sony hires Marvel as a production unit to make the...

Well, they didn't really use to. Now they do. Yes.

The Tom Holland ones are made in conjunction with Marvel.

Kevin Feist produces them.

I think there's so much money that everybody's happy.

And that's how they can put in...

Will they make a film?

And they can put in John Burntall's The Punisher.

And so they're more marvel-y than the previous ones.

And they make a Flash Thompson movie, just all Flash.

Do you think that would have ever worked if they had to?

No. I mean, look, would you put a passable?

They made a Madam Web movie.

They made a Craven the Hunter movie.

I didn't even see that.

I do remember that.

That was horrible. That was absolutely awful.

That was Aaron Taylor Johnson.

Aaron Taylor Johnson.

I mean, what is the...

I mean, we have already talked way too long about Spider-Man.

Yeah, we've done it.

But this is one of the fascinating things about these movies right now.

Is that the Spider-Man movies are all good.

The Tom Holland Spider-Man movies. They're very entertaining.

And partly they are so good because they're made with Marvel.

And they have the main Marvel characters.

You can throw in a Punisher. You can throw in a Hulk.

And they...

Florence Pugh also, whatever her name is.

That's right.

You can put in those little...

And it doesn't make them great because they have Marvel characters in them.

They have the juice.

They have the Marvel...

They feel authentic. They understand the characters.

They're really good.

The problem is, because Tom Holland is so firmly ensconced in the real,

quote-unquote, Marvel Universe,

he can't hang out with these side characters who are only in the Sony Universe.

And so, they're...

And but Sony, as you know, they want to make as much money as they can.

Yeah.

They have this license to make.

Do you legally he can't?

He could like, Craven the Hunter could not be in this movie contractually?

I think...

Or just they realize they're going to get it graded by it.

I'm not a legal lawyer.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm pretty sure Craven the Hunter, they could work out a deal where Craven the Hunter could show up

in a Spider-Man movie.

Sure.

I guess they would have to do a deal.

But almost no way in hell, in Mephisto's hometown,

that Spider-Man is going to show up in Craven the Hunter.

Sure.

That would cost the streams.

That would be revolting.

It's fascinating.

And if Craven were to be in a Spider-Man movie, it can't be the same scene

that John Bernthal's The Punisher is in because that's too complicated.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, they did throw in some Michael Keaton's...

Michael Keaton gave out here within Spider-Man homecoming.

And then they threw him into Morbius.

Remember Morbius?

No.

Wait, Michael Keaton was in Marvel, I thought he was Batman.

He's got a Batman and he's in a Marvel movie.

All right.

Let's, because my head's starting to hurt.

Let me just conclude very quickly.

This is important.

What I said before about the art of animation was primarily a joke.

It wasn't a joke.

He really believes this.

He said this to me off-air.

He said this to me in private chats.

Never, never.

I would like to just smooth things out with the listeners and take it with a great assault.

But it is true that I have not seen the Spider-Man movies.

Maybe I should, maybe I would like them.

Maybe I should watch them.

I'm shocked.

I'm shocked.

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Spider-Man brand new day is currently playing in wide release.

The rest of the Tom Harle Holland Spider-Man movies, they're on Disney Plus.

Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies are also on Disney Plus as is across the spider-verse which

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But into the spider-verse, that one's on Netflix.

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There you go.

Real quick, lightning round.

Oh no.

What do you have as a Rex egg for just connected in some way to into this, what the movie is

on, brand new day, Spider-Man brand new day.

Do you have a, are you reading the newspaper while we're doing this?

I'm not going to read right now.

I forgot the name of the movie.

We take what we call if you have no memory of what the show does.

Do you have a Rex egg for Spider-Man colon brand new day?

Of course I do.

Of course I do.

Rex egg.

We're going to do the Rex egg.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The recommendation segment.

In honor of Spider-Man, we're going to recommend some, some movies here.

I thought it would be too ghost to recommend a Spider-Man movie.

We talked about most of them.

So I thought I would recommend a superhero movie from prior to the late 2000s boom that,

if you believe the box office totals of brand new day, we are still living in apparently.

The one that I decided to select is both a tremendous time capsule of a very chubby period

frankly in the history of comic book movies.

It is also a pretty fun swashbuckling pulp adventure.

It is.

Wait, hold on.

It is.

I don't know.

What could it be?

It could be and is the Phantom from 1996 directed by Simon Pinser.

This is currently streaming on Pluto.

Evil is a fact.

We shall succeed where they have failed.

Drax is on a quest for supernatural power.

They know far too much and courage.

Stop them.

Are they the only one who can?

Is a Phantom.

Now the Phantom only exists.

The film I'm saying only exists because of the success of the Tim Burton Batman franchise

of the late 80s and early 90s.

And when those movies hit Hollywood's inexplicable reaction was not to say wow people like these

movies we should make more DC movies.

We should take other DC heroes.

Right.

Green Lantern, the Flash, the Justice League.

No, that's not what they said.

They said hey, we should make a bunch of movies that are based on early pulp and comic

strip heroes that helped inspire and work contemporaries of Batman and could be set

in vaguely period set locales and locations and time periods just like it.

Don't ask me why.

It's one of the dumbest and strangest things that ever happened.

It probably is because the rights were cheap.

Maybe that is well.

Maybe that is well.

But we got Dick Tracy with Warren Beatty.

We got the shadow with Alec Baldwin.

We got eventually we got the mask of Zoro with Antonio Banderas.

That one's for nothing.

That would be good.

That's still count.

And we did also get the Phantom.

The Phantom, aka the Ghost Who Walks.

He is a character created by as a father, I guess other ghosts they take the train.

I don't know.

That's a stupid thing.

He was created by Lee Falk in 1936, which means the character was 60 years old when they

made this movie.

And when the Phantom comes up online today, which is not often, it is usually to make fun

of how Billy Zane looked in his purple costume, which is a very faithful translation of the

character from the comic strips.

Or to make fun of the movie's tagline.

Jordan, do you know the tagline course?

Of course I know the tagline.

What I will let you say it.

What is the tagline?

I live in time by the tagline.

When I encounter nefarious people, when I encounter those who are up to no good, what do

I do?

I slam evil.

That's correct.

Slam evil.

That's what it says.

By the way, a slam evil sounds like a type of worm that grows into a shadow into a

Walter Caning's ear.

Put this slam evil inside him and control his mind.

I can't grow tomatoes because my garden is just overrun by slam evils.

But slam evil is what you do when you are the Phantom and you want to save the day.

You're going to slam the poster.

The poster had in two words with an exclamation point, slam evil.

The big purple poster.

Something that he does not do and does not come up in the film, but that's okay.

The movie itself, that aside, is a nice little B movie.

It has some very good practical stunt work, which we don't tend to see in these sorts

of movies anymore.

It has a very charming and very purple Billy Zayn as the Phantom.

He's quite good in the movie actually.

And then do you remember Jordan, who the beautiful, oh god.

Along on Janoo in this movie is, do you know, do you remember someone who went on to

quite a career.

This was one of her early, like American productions, picturing a cure a nightly-esque

gal.

No, no, she's not, it's not her.

Is it a Rachel Vise or somebody like that?

I think you're getting a little closer, but I will tell you it is Catherine Zeta Jones.

Oh, I bear it.

Yeah.

Pre-entrapment, pre-everything.

This is one of her first American productions at least.

Wow.

Catherine Zeta Jones, she plays like this, a moral pirate in the film.

And I am sure if I showed a picture of her in the Phantom to Jordan, he would not be

able to restrain himself from making three stuages noises while his face turned into

a text, Avery Cartoon.

Catherine Zeta Jones, Christie Swanson, Treat Williams as Xander Drax.

James Villain, Patrick Williams as the villain, Xander Drax, he's quite good as a big

mushroom mushroom, mustache twirling villain.

Yeah.

Wow, I got a, I got to rewatch this.

I have seen it.

I didn't rewatch it for this podcast, but I have seen it many times and I rewatched a

couple of years ago.

It is a very charming B movie.

It is not an A plus movie in any sense of the word.

I'm looking by the way at the director's Simon Simon Winsor.

I think I said Simon Pinser.

I was thinking of a Pinser, temporal Pinser, my apologies.

He's actually done some good stuff.

I mean, I'm probably the biggest feather in his cap as he did the 1989 TV adaptation of

Lonesome Dough.

Lonesome Dough was a very, very respected thing.

And then he also did, um, he did free willy, which was a, was a very successful movie.

Yeah.

And he also did the wild.

That movie was a gigantic hit.

He did the 1997 TV version of the Flash, which was pretty, pretty good in its way.

Yeah.

Free willy made a boatload of money.

He did Darryl D period, A period, R period, remember that movie?

I know the title.

I've never seen Darryl.

Uh, but then he did some real junk.

He did Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man, one of the world's worst movies.

I like him back.

I like him back.

I like him back.

Credit Operation Dumb O Drop, a masterpiece.

Is that one a masterpiece?

I haven't seen that one either.

Ah, Danny Glover and Ray Leada and they have to get an elephant into the...

They got to drop a Dumb O.

I get it.

I get it.

So that's Simon Wincer's filmography, but this is clearly the filet of the entire...

Ubra.

I'm not crazy about how it ends.

It has, you know, like eventually as many of these movies of this period did, they had

to like introduce more sci-fi elements or at least kind of like fantasy elements.

There's like a laser battle with skulls.

It's very stupid.

They're on an island.

They're running around on an island.

They are running around on an island.

And it is probably, you know, I bet there was a better version that they cut down into

what they released, but the Phantom has two sidekicks, one is a wolf, one is a horse,

and they can talk to each other with parks and grunts.

I'm sorry.

That's a winner in my book, 10 times that again.

I'm stung.

That's slamming a lot of evils.

That's right.

So that's the Phantom?

It is a good film.

It is streaming on Pluto.

Jordan, what is your recommendation?

I don't have too much to say.

I was really thinking as we discussed joking around a moment ago, why is this new brand

new day?

Why is it making so much money?

And in all sincerity, I think the thing that people are really responding to is the

three-way friendship between Peter Parker, MJ, and Ned.

And even though it's a romantic relationship between Peter and MJ, they are still best

to their great friends.

Yes.

And in fact, the last shot of the movie is not with MJ.

It's with Ned.

Jeff, I'm very touching.

It's like he wants to be with a nice buddy.

Yes, yes, it's a very nice moment, I agree.

Yeah, it's a nice moment.

So I'm thinking about what are some great movies about young adult friendships?

These are not kids.

They're just out of college.

He just graduated from MIT and he's building apps and whatnot.

Ned is.

And I was thinking and thinking.

And it just felt like the big one is the most obvious one.

It's kind of a famous movie, but there's a potential that some people haven't seen.

And if they haven't, they should watch it immediately.

1979's Breaking Away.

Ah.

It's a masterpiece.

Yeah.

It is a great movie about young, they're not kids anymore.

They're out of high school.

That's the problem.

They're out of high school.

And they're aimless.

They have nowhere to go.

They live in a college town, but they're not going to college.

They are the townies.

And they find camaraderie in their hatred of the college kids.

They find camaraderie through sports.

They become, it's a bike racing movie.

And of course, this is one of the earliest films with the young Dennis Quaid.

He plays the Jack.

He's not the main character.

The main character is played by an actor by the name of Christopher or something or other.

And a little Jackie Ural Haley is in it too.

And the guy who was also in Diner Stern, is that his name?

Only there were places you could look these names up before you talked about them, Jordan.

20th Century Fox presents Breaking Away, the story of four guys in imminent danger of turning

20.

All right.

How you doing, guys?

Well, we're a little disturbed by the developments in the Middle East, but we refuse to give up immaturity

without a fight.

Smart move, shorty.

But anybody be listening to a film spotting podcast without having seen Breaking Away.

I'm guessing a lot of people have not seen Breaking Away.

It's a massive, even very wise film spotting, listenership.

I'm guaranteeing you at least one and one at every two of them has not seen Breaking

Fair enough.

It's one of the most heartwarming movies you'll ever see.

Isn't that fair to say, Matt Singer?

It's a great movie.

It's a great movie.

I mean, if we want to Peter Yates, another very good director, directed some of my favorites.

He directed The Hot Rock, which I think we talked about on an episode of the podcast.

He also did another one of my favorite movies, The Friends of Eddie Coil.

Those are much, those are, I mean, The Hot Rock is kind of about male friendship, too,

actually.

But Friends of Eddie Coil, contrary to the title, maybe not about a heartwarming tale of

friendship.

But yes, this is a, it's a lovely film.

I love this.

This is a great recommendation.

This is a very kudos to you for thinking a little out of the box.

This is a perfect, a perfect, a perfect while.

One choice.

One second.

Once in a while, I'll take the foot out of my mouth and say something intelligent.

It was written by a fellow, then, of Steve Tessich, who was a playwright as well.

And it's really got that, it's, it's, it's, it's polished as hell.

It actually was nominated for Best Picture.

I don't even know that.

It was nominated for Best Picture.

Peter Yates was nominated for Best Director.

Barbara Barrie, who plays the main kid's mom.

She was nominated for Best Supporting Actress.

Weirdly Paul Dooley, who plays the dad.

He's a used car salesman.

Very funny.

He's not nominated for Best Supporting Actor.

But the screenplay, one best screenplay.

Steve Tessich, the author, so good for him.

Dennis Christopher is the name of the, he's kind of the Mark Hamill-esque main character.

And you know, he, I'm surprised I didn't get Mark Hamill, frankly.

I mean, he's kind of, they probably would try to and couldn't get him.

He's kind of a Mark Hamill clone.

But it's just a sweet little movie about kids in growing up in, you know, Noorsville,

Indiana, and a bunch of rich snobs.

It's kind of, it kind of plays into a little bit of like the snobs versus slabs, animal

house kind of thing because there's the college kids.

But it's, it's very sweet.

And it's, it was, it was that area for that sort of thing.

And if people want to watch it, they will have to rent it.

That one got to pay.

Unfortunately, that one's a 399 to my, to my despair.

But it's worth the 399.

It's worth watching.

Breaking away.

Somewhere between growing up and settling down, it happens to all of us.

Okay.

Should we get to our rec seg for one of our listeners?

Yeah, let's do that.

I actually don't know if you picked the same one as me this.

We've gotten a bunch, obviously we took a week off.

So we've had a few extras.

But mine, should I go first here?

Yeah, go, yeah, go for it.

So the one that I selected was from listener Don.

Don, right?

Hi, do you have any recommendations that are in Italian?

And I could watch with my husband.

And then in parentheses, nothing too sentimental.

Know this example is a TV show, not a movie, but he seems to be doing okay with detective

whole or who?

Presumably in Norwegian.

I'm learning Italian, which is why I'm singling this language out.

We have Netflix, Amazon, Apple, Disney, Peacock, maybe others.

I wouldn't restrict based on that.

And that is from Don.

Did you do this one too, Jordan, or just me?

No, no, I didn't.

I did.

Okay.

So do I want something that is Italian, which is big?

I mean, a lot of Italian movies.

Sure.

But not sentimental.

Right.

So, a couple of the ones that I thought, the big ones would be.

Yeah, Felini's hammer record is out.

That's exactly.

That would not get in guy.

That is so sentimental.

What I did was I looked at some of these services that Don uses and I tried to see what

could I find that would be Italian and unsentimental Italian movie.

And boy, did I find one?

It was one that I honestly hadn't seen before, but I watched it after I don't even know

how I found it browsing around.

But this I think fits the bill.

I started digging on Amazon specifically.

And the one that I ended up watching that is available on Prime Video is the film

investigation of a citizen above suspicion.

What the hell movie is this?

This is a 1970 film directed by Elio Petri.

And I would describe it as kind of a reverse Hitchcock movie.

Instead of a man who has been wrongfully accused of a crime who is trying to wriggle free

of suspicion.

A homicide detective murders his mistress.

And then he deliberately leaves clues to see if anyone who works for him is smart enough

to solve the crime while he is kind of simultaneously doing whatever he can to direct suspicion onto

other people.

Most of the couple of reasons why he does this one, he's pure evil.

He's like a sociopath.

He's a mad man.

But also he is kind of testing how powerful he is in the process of becoming because over

the course of the movie he gets a new promotion.

He is now the head of the political investigations bureau.

And in the middle of this movie and the investigation into this murder, he gives this fiery and very

fascist speech to the staff of like the police bureau to the media where he basically says

that people who protest the government are criminals by another name that he says among

other things quote up until yesterday, I was catching murderers and fairly good at it.

It's significant that a man like myself was chosen in a time like this to direct the political

division.

Consider the reason they singled me out.

The difference between criminal and political acts is dwindling more and more of these

days.

It has almost disappeared.

So unfortunately this 55 year old movie, it might feel a little relevant today.

It seems like perfect fodder for an American remake actually.

And looking on Wikipedia, I guess several people have tried to make one over the years.

It never happened.

Paul Schrader tried for a while.

That actually sounds like a nice match to me of director and subject matter.

This is a very dark satire.

The lead actor who I was not familiar with is terrific.

I'm not going to attempt to say his name because I would embarrass myself.

I don't want to do that.

But he is wonderful in this movie.

He's terrifying.

He has the facade of this handsome composed politician, but of course, you know, as he's

pointing fingers at others, he is the true monster.

And I thought this was a really, really good movie.

I really enjoyed it.

So it is investigation of a citizen above suspicion.

It's streaming on prime video in Italian.

And I hope I hope it works for Dawn and her husband.

Wow.

Very cool.

I'd like to hear back from Dawn if she decides to watch it and what her take is.

It is beloved by many critics, but it has escaped me.

I can't see them all.

And this is one that I haven't seen.

So I'm excited.

All right.

What's your recommendation for a listener this week, Jordan?

We got a great email from a fellow by the name of Julio and Julio says the following.

Leo Carax.

I don't know.

How do you pronounce?

I would say Leo's carix.

Carix.

Leo's carix.

Leo's carix is Holy Motors is one of those movies that blew my mind the first time I

watched it.

And it's remained one of my favorites ever since.

I like that movie a lot too.

And I know Matt Singer, you love that movie.

One of my favorite movies.

You said that was your favorite movie of the year that it came out.

And we have to.

We watched it side by side when we first saw it together.

Holy Motors is one of my favorite movies on a watch and it's remained one of my favorites

ever since.

It's inventive, fascinating, it's big swings, opens to different interpretations and deeply

moving.

I agree.

I want more movies like that.

Who doesn't?

But then he throws in worth mentioning I watched Leo Carax's most recent film, A Net,

and hated it.

Julio, you and I are are simpatico because I did not care for a net either.

And that was, did you like a net, Matt Singer?

Not as much as Holy Motors, but I liked it.

You liked it.

Producer Sam, did you like a net or do you like Julio and I think that movie is very

annoying?

I loved it.

It was my second favorite movie of that year.

Wow.

I loved it.

Oh my God.

I've offended Sam, the worst person of all to offend.

He's in charge of making me sound good and now I've put my foot in my mouth.

All right.

Anyway, so anyway, no restrictions on platforms.

I have access to all the big ones.

Give me a movie, he says.

Now real quick, Holy Motors is not the world's most famous film.

It's in French.

It came out in 2012 and it's about, gosh, what is it about?

That's the thing.

It is open to interpretation.

But I think most people will agree it is about, just don't, if you'd follow it on a

base level, it's about a guy who roams around the city and he puts on different personas

depending on the scene.

So in a way, it's just a way to stretch together a bunch of skits.

But it's also commentary about, you know, facades of society.

It's a commentary about acting.

It's a commentary about filmmaking and it's got some, it's really quite, quite extraordinary.

And surreal at times and funny and scary and everything.

It's a big hodgepodge.

Now, what I'm about to say when our friend Julio listens to this, he will either get down

on his knees and thank me and say, oh my god, I never knew.

Or he will say no, duh.

Of course I knew that.

So I don't know.

I'm going to roll the dice and I'm going to hope I'm going to help Julio out.

One of the sequences in this film is when our main character who's played by Danny Levant

and he is in all of the carroxes films.

He's on the lovers on the bridge and all the others.

One of the personas is he plays like a madman.

He's named Monsieur Maird, Mr. Shit.

And he is like a beast who emerges from the sewers and just runs around and is crazy

and just assaults people and is just like, I'm just a jibbering lunatic.

Now prior to the release of Holy Motors, there was a film called Tokyo with an exclamation

mark at the end.

Matt Singer, do you know about Tokyo?

Yes.

Okay.

Tokyo is an omnibus film.

This is something that happens more in Europe and more back in the day when three directors

come together and say we're going to make three short films slap them together and they're

vaguely related.

Very famously, a New York stories from the late 80s was Martin Scorsese, Woody Allen and

Francis Ford Coppola and the only connection is that all three of these stories are set

in New York City.

Tokyo was three directors while set in Tokyo, Michelle Gondry, Bong Jun Ho and it's Leo

correct, Leo's correct.

However, he pronounces his name.

At the Michelle Gondry one is very cute.

It's about a couple in Tokyo and it's a young woman and a young man and the young man

is becoming famous.

And as he's becoming famous, the young woman starts to feel like a piece of furniture and

she literally becomes a chair.

She transforms into a chair.

It's kind of cool.

The Bong one is about a guy who's like an introvert and he never leaves his apartment

and he falls in love with the woman who delivers pizza to him.

The one in the middle by Kura is this character, Mr. Maird.

It's the crazy Denny Levant with weird contacts in and a crazy wig and a green suit flopping

around Tokyo, acting like a maniac.

So if you like that sequence in Holy Motors, it's a 32 minute version of that story.

It's set in Tokyo with more of a three act arc to it.

There's like he goes on trial and whatnot and it's pretty incredible.

So that is my recommendation.

The movie as a whole is good.

There are three very good short films by three top notch directors.

But if you're into Holy Motors and you wish there was like a side quill to Holy Motors,

there is and not a lot of people know about it.

And here's the punchline to all the listeners, all the listeners.

This movie, Tokyo, which is a rarity, is available pretty much everywhere.

I know that it's on our favorites to be in Pluto.

That's the best part.

It's for free.

But it's also on Amazon Prime and it's on Canopy also, which is a great service if you

have a library card.

It's you get like 12 free rentals a month and this can be one of your free rentals.

So you can do with ads on to be your Pluto.

You can watch on Amazon or you can watch it on Canopy.

It's all about Tokyo.

It's this weird little movie that not many people remember.

Now is your opportunity to see it.

All right.

Great.

So let's recap the Rex egg this week.

We have the Phantom on Pluto.

We have Breaking Away on VOD.

We have investigation of a citizen above suspicion on Prime Video and we have Tokyo exclamation

point on Prime Pluto to be and Canopy.

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Okay, it's time for a game.

Sam, producer Sam is here.

And I believe I'm well for many weeks, we would be, oh, Jordan always wins.

I believe I'm on a winning streak right now.

You're on a roll.

When did it last three in a row?

I've won three games in a row and now we're doing a game.

Wait, Matt, I want to correct.

Okay.

Jordan hosted last last time.

I won.

Oh, I was the winner, but Jordan has lost like four times in a row.

He's lost four in a row.

No, I've lost three.

I lost three in a row.

He lost 16 episodes in a row.

We got to have to go back and actually do a leaderboard.

We do need to have an actual, is there a film spotting in turn?

We can commission to go back and try to find the winners.

I think somebody wrote in and did suggest like the winner should host next time.

Then we would never have consecutive winners and we would never have consecutive hosts.

It's probably makes the most of it.

That was a good note.

It's a good note.

We did read that email.

Whoever sent it and we thank you and we may not, we may not listen to you.

We may not listen to you, but in fact, we are listening to you now.

Because I did win last game and now I am hosting.

So this game is, as you mentioned at the top of the show, it's about Spider-Man villains,

Spider-Man movie villains.

This does, yes, play in two mats, strengths a little bit, but there are two parts to this.

One part is knowing your Spider-Man movie villains.

The other part will be the best picture-nominated films, those actors who played the villains

or who voiced the villains.

This is not going to be to my strength.

Exactly, but half of it is and half of it is not.

We'll see.

So I thought I was in for a real gimmie this week.

I was all excited.

So the name of this game is called a vial menagerie.

I was mistaken.

I was kind of like, they're all kind of animals, right?

There's lizards and octopi and all kinds of stuff, but you know, you get to goblins

as well.

So whatever.

They're not animal vegetables and minerals, all of them, I guess.

But multiple opportunities, starting points, and I'm going to try to keep this a little

more concise.

So we'll do seven villains, okay?

You're going to get a point just by naming a villain.

You're going to get a point when you name the actor who plays the villain or voices the

villain.

You're going to get a point for naming the film.

These are all gimmies.

These are softballs.

Right.

So it's film, the actor is someone who was in a movie that was nominated for best picture-nominated.

No, no, no, you're just going to name, you're going to name a Spider-Man villain.

You're going to name the actor who played that villain.

You're going to name the movie that villain appeared in.

And then you will tell me or you will simply guess how many best picture-nominated films

you think that actor has appeared in best picture-nominated films.

Wow.

God.

Oh boy.

This is going to be interesting.

And then, and then you will have to name at least one of them, but as many as you can,

because then there will be a chance for the other person to steal if they know more.

All right.

Do we get a point per movie?

You're going to get a point for, you're going to get a point per movie, but.

So you're going to get a point for a movie.

Let's say somebody, there's some actor who's been in five best picture-nominated films.

You can name two, let's say.

Yeah.

That's two points.

But if the other person can name one more, they get all the points.

Not what?

No, they get all the points for the nominated films.

All the best picture-nominated films.

Oh.

It's not, it's like family-few.

It's the only point.

There's the potential for somebody to get 300 points in a second.

Easily.

Very easily.

We'll just see how this goes.

All right.

It's always-

This is like the NBA.

It's a very high-point game.

High stage.

Okay.

So we're going to start with you, Jordan.

All you have to do.

Oh, I'm going to try to keep track.

We're going to do seven villains.

There's more than that, of course.

And I am outraged that you have not seen in two or across the Sprite of Earth's their

masterpieces.

You got to see this.

I'm a bad person.

I'm going to watch.

Okay.

Name a Spider-Man villain.

Go ahead.

I'm going to give you a point.

Oh.

I start.

Okay.

Yeah.

Just name a Spider-Man movie villain.

The Green Goblin.

Very good.

Spider-Man.

Now name the actor who played.

Green Goblin.

Willem Defoe.

That's two points.

Yeah.

Green.

Name one of the films.

He's an Spider-Man.

He's an Spider-Man.

That's three points.

Now.

Yeah.

Yes.

Now name.

How many best picture-nominated films?

I'm not paying attention because you will have a chance to steal here too.

Gosh.

How many best picture-nominated films has actor Willem Defoe been in?

Four?

Okay.

You're guessing four.

Matt, you have a chance to guess as well.

The closest has a chance to steal here.

You I can guess a different number you're saying?

Like if I say-

You can guess a different number.

And if you're closer, then you will get to this point.

I'm just going to let Jordan guess because I know I'm not good at like Oscar trivia.

All right.

So I'm more of a Spider-Man fan myself.

Okay.

You're saying four than you are four.

I say four.

Okay.

So you can just get the point because Matt's not going to even sure.

That's four points.

Okay.

Now I have to name him.

You just need to name one.

But I will tell you, the home Defoe has been in eight films.

Nominated for your list picture.

Okay.

I'm going to name some of these movies right now.

Okay.

Do as many as you can.

The first one is Platoon.

Correct.

Okay.

Another one that Willem Defoe was in that was nominated for Best Picture is the Florida project.

Not nominated unfortunately.

Oh.

Should have been.

Am I done?

You done only you're on one but Matt.

It's all over.

Matt, if you can name one you get a point for the the both tune and you get a point for the one you name.

Can you name one more Willem Defoe Best Picture nominated film?

I don't know that I can't.

The only one I thought of was Platoon.

All right.

I know.

I'm thinking.

I'm thinking.

Oh.

Was he in a lot of games?

Okay.

Wait.

I think I have one.

All right.

Was he in and I hope it was nominated.

I might be wrong.

Was he in the grand Budapest Hotel?

He was and it was nominated for Best Picture.

Okay.

So that's two points for Matt.

Do you want me to list the other one?

Yes, please.

Let's see.

We done guessing.

Yeah.

So I'll go chronological order, Platoon.

Best Picture winner.

Mississippi burning.

Oh yeah.

Good movie.

Yeah.

Born on the 4th of July.

Oh.

All right.

The English patient.

I am not.

Remember him being in Born on the 4th of July.

I'm not.

I think he was in Mexico.

The Mexico scene.

Maybe I remember.

I should see it again.

He was in the aviator.

Who was in the aviator?

Roland Sweet.

The character name.

It doesn't really.

Boy, I don't remember him in that one.

He was in the grandpa's hotel.

He was in nightmare alley.

Nightmare alley.

I like that movie.

I don't remember him being in that either.

I liked it.

But you will remember that he was in poor things.

Oh, yes.

It was Best Picture nominee.

Yes.

Okay.

What a strange for what a great career.

What a strange batch of movies that is.

Incredible.

And honestly, I think Florida Projects applied the best of the bunch.

It's better than me.

It's better than a bunch of the ones that we just mentioned.

Absolutely right.

I mean, I like several of those movies.

Yes.

Yes.

You're right.

Okay.

So I can say any, any spider man villain from any of the movies.

That's right.

You can think strategically about it.

I know that's the thing.

You think I need the next time Jordan's going, I need to be strategic about this and think

about who I could name.

But I guess in this case, I will mention just because why not?

I'll say Mysterio, which is Jake Gyllenhaal.

Yes.

Spider-Man, far from home.

That's correct.

But then I now I have to try.

Now I have to say, I think he's been in a certain number of Oscars.

That's right.

Nominated Best Picture movie.

How many points I have to know?

No earthly idea.

Well, we got for sure, without a doubt, he was nominating the, I know that the Prince of Persia,

the Sands of Time was one best picture and was that 2012 of 2013.

I don't know.

I'm going to say three.

Okay.

What about you Jordan?

I think he was only in two.

So Jordan is going to steal the point because he was only in one.

Oh, wow.

What?

You have to name it.

Well, of course I know it's Brokeback Mountain, but it's a,

it's correct.

You get the point.

Zodiac was not nominee for Best Picture.

This was in the five picture, Best Picture nominees, era.

Oh, you know, oh, seven.

Oh, seven is one of the best years.

Yeah, exactly.

So I know, oh, seven is totally stacked.

So yeah, there are, there are surprises here with films that weren't nominated, but I do

think a lot of it is that pre, oh, what, 2010 is when we started to get 10.

Yeah, that it was answer.

Oh, nine.

It was the first one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

So Mysterios off the board as the green goblin.

It is currently six to four.

Jordan.

Oh, my.

Oh, my gosh.

Now, I'm going to, I'm going to knock everybody out of the park here because I, I don't know how

I know this, but I do.

I am going to say the rhinoceros.

Rhino.

Okay.

Rhino also known vice-friends as a rhino.

And Rhino is played by Paul Giamatti.

Correct.

And he was in the, this was in the amazing Spider-Man 2 for two seconds.

Correct.

It was like a joke at the end that the Rhino shows up.

Now I have to tell you how many Paul Giamatti movies were nominated for Best Picture.

And the real answer should be like a thousand.

It should be.

You're absolutely right.

But I believe the answer is merely two.

All right.

Two Paul Giamatti movies have nominated for a picture.

Okay.

So Matt Singer, you have a chance, if you want to guess a number, you could guess the number.

No, I, I, I just like Jordan get, I like to see Jordan flounder and, and flop around.

So just let him, just let him try.

It's okay.

Let's see.

I think I know.

I think it's one.

He wants to name one, but he said two.

Why does he only have to name one?

Well, because he, he just need, that's all he needs.

That's a, that's all this other game works.

I'm required to name one, but if I can name more than one, I, I achieve greatness.

That's right.

So the answer to this question is, I think there are two, and I think the two movies are as follows.

Sideways.

Okay.

Which was nominated for Best Picture.

And also the recent, the holdovers, which was also nominated for Best Picture.

I think those are the only two.

And the team there in Planet of the Apes was also nominated for sure.

So GMATI has appeared in four Best Picture nominees, which is closer to a thousand than

two.

Yeah.

But so Matt Sanger, all you have to do is name one other of those Best Picture nominees.

Planet of the Apes.

Let me, let me, any other, I'm trying to think what, I don't think the hawk is dying was

nominated.

Um, I, one that you will never think of.

One, I, I was the first actual one I thought of after side.

I'm thinking of very good movies that are worthy of consideration that are too small to

be one of them.

I don't think this was actually nominated, but we, this, this episode is already going

too long.

So I'm just going to throw out American splendor.

I should again should have been, but wasn't.

Yeah.

Okay.

I bet you it's something that like nobody thinks about like a movie like C biscuit.

Wasn't he in C biscuit?

I don't know if he was the one I thought of that wasn't nominated was like Cinder

Releman, which was nominated.

But this is a Best Picture winner actually.

The one you're not thinking of.

I just think this scene is so vivid to me.

He's only in the, the movie very briefly, but it's 12 years of slave, Best Picture winner.

I think he's at the slave market.

It's a full.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So what are the four and Cinder Releman's the other one?

Well, no, oh, so he's in saving private Ryan.

He is weirdly.

Yes.

Don't remember that.

I don't remember him.

So yeah, there are a few cases where there are actors.

So it wasn't, it wasn't win.

It wasn't the hawk is dying.

Barney's burning version.

So it's not so good enough as pig vomit.

He's so good.

Safe men should have been the chop.

So good.

So good.

So good.

Okay.

Birdie Gale.

All right.

It's 12 to 5.

It's not only 12 to 5.

I'm not, I'm not, you get three quick points.

All you have to do is name.

Okay.

Well, I can do that.

But he can do that too.

There's so many villains.

All right.

I'm getting dry.

I can't think of too many more.

I'm going to say, I'm going to say the Harry Osborne green goblin from played by Dane

Dehan.

Oh.

Dane Dehan played Harry Osborne, the green goblin in the amazing spider man to

the wrong side of the bridge.

All Gemini.

Yes.

And I'm going to say, how many, I don't know, zero can, can the answer be zero in this

case?

The answer can be zero, but it is not in this case.

So, so, but Jordan can, can guess, but he'll have to name one of the, go ahead, Jordan.

I thought it was zero.

That's why I picked him.

I was trying to be strategic.

I can't even, I would say, well, Dane Dehan has been in one movie that was nominated

for, but what the hell is it?

It's not the, on the road.

It's, um, I, I'm seeing his face was famously a, I'm seeing his annoying face in good

actor, but he's like an annoying guy.

I can't name a Dane Dehan movie.

That was nominated for best picture.

I'm sorry.

So you guessed zero.

I don't know what to do in this case in this case.

You're not correct.

I should get lots of points, I think.

Jordan didn't get.

I guess the number.

Yeah.

We're gonna, we're gonna point.

Can you name, but you have to name a movie?

No, I can't.

I could name movies, but they, I can't name a nominee if I could think of one, I wouldn't

name it.

All right.

Yeah, these, he has small roles in two films, one of which a very recent best picture winner.

Really?

Uh, maybe, uh, shape of water maybe?

Is he show up in that?

Does he have a tiny role in an Oppenheimer perhaps?

He does.

Oh, they all, yes, he is an Oppenheimer.

He's, he's Matt Damon's sidekick in sleazy sidekick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Um, and he's also in Lincoln.

I don't know if he shows like what everybody can kids.

Don't remember him and Lincoln.

I have to imagine.

Enjoy the play.

Uh, bring me back a kick from the play.

All right.

So 12, seven, how many, how many?

So, so we've done, we've done four.

Okay.

Uh, should we just do one more?

Sure.

Sure.

Jordan's gonna win.

It's okay.

I'm gonna say now, um, electro.

Electro.

All right.

Electro.

Electro is played by Jamie Foxx.

Correct.

Oh, and actually, I don't even know which, I think he's in the amazing Spider-Man 2,

again, it's all about the second one.

Well, he's in two movies.

Well, he's in both of the amazing Spider-Man 2?

Okay.

Well, no, he's, he shows up again and then no way home.

Yeah, a lot, all the, all the other things.

Oh, that's right.

Cause it's multi-verse.

Yeah.

And how many Oscar nominated best pictures is Mr. Jamie Foxx in.

And the answer is not gonna be that many, but I'm gonna say three.

Okay.

Matt Sanger, do you want to, do you want to jump in with a guess?

I was gonna guess three.

Now, if, so I don't know what to do here in, in that situation.

I only have to name one though.

If I say he's been in four.

You have to just name one.

You could steal it here with just by being correct.

If you're like correct or whatever.

I mean, I can name, I think I can name one.

I, he's way up to name it.

What's your number?

What's the name?

I guess I'll say, I only have to name one no matter how many I say.

That's correct.

Okay.

He was in four.

Okay.

He was only in two.

So Jordan is closer.

I would have used, but you do have to name one.

All right.

Well, one is Ray, obviously, cause he won the Oscar for best actor.

So he was in one other best picture nominee.

Oh, I know.

I know it.

I don't think it was collateral nominee for best picture.

I don't think so.

No, it wasn't.

You're going to kick yourselves.

I think a little bit.

Uh, Django 1 Change.

I mean, the score my, my, uh, jock to me is losing his mind at the FedEx truck passing by.

The dogs going a little bananas.

That's right.

But that's what he is.

Blue right copy of the umbrellas of Sherborn.

That's right.

He ate the other one.

So we're, yeah, I mean, a big win for you, Jordan.

Well, that's back in the wind column.

Matt was the spider man guy.

Well, this was a, this was slightly mislabeled because the, I wonder it was the spider man part.

I wonder though if we would have, if we had really gone the distance with all like 11 or 12,

Jordan would have had more trouble.

He would not have mentioned Dane Dawes.

I could tell.

Yeah, I'm running out of villains.

I mean, was Dr. Octopus and the clay face, right?

No, incorrect.

Sandman, right?

Sandman.

Sandman.

I get sandman and clay face.

How many, how many Oscar nominated best picture nominated films do you think Alfred

Malena was in?

It's a surprising, well, more over.

Braiders of Lost Ark is one of them.

Yes it is.

So, but he probably is in movies.

Well, best picture.

I don't know, Alfred Malena is probably in a lot of best, best, best, best.

It was actually five.

It's five, but it starts with Raiders and then he's like, uncredited in two in both

device and promising young woman, but also in Shukola in education.

That's picture nominated.

I never would have picked up on any of those.

Good game.

That was the Vile A Vile, Menagerie.

A sure was Vile.

It's Jordan one.

Give me the way.

Throw me the idol.

No time to argue.

Throw me the idol.

I throw you the way.

Give me the way.

Adios, senior.

Well, listen folks, thanks again to Sam for creating a new game that I won.

It's always terrific when that happens and we want to say to the listeners, now is the

time on the show, when we very quickly run through what is coming out on streaming, theatrical

releases available to rent and buy right now.

David Wains, Gail Dottry and the Celebrity Sex Pass.

Stilly, funny movie can now be rented for X amount of dollars, even though it's still

in theaters.

Similar theme, Olivia Wilde's film, The Invite, which is doing quite well at the box office

and I think we'll ultimately find itself getting nominated for some Academy Award that

stars Olivia Wilde and Seth Rogen.

Seth Rogen, Kris, Edward Gondon.

That is basically everyone in the movie.

There's no other human beings in the movie and they go through it all.

Jackass, Best and Less, Clips version of the new, are there new shenanigans?

Yes, it's about 50, 50 new and old stuff, roughly.

Yes.

And then finally, Minions and Monsters, which Jordan Loves.

Even though he hates all animated movies, he makes one exception and that is the Minions

franchise, which he finds to be.

He finds them to be the true pioneers of the animation.

I like the Minions and I like the penguins of Madagascar.

Somehow that tracks to me.

It's a good movie.

I don't think my children have seen the penguins of Madagascar.

I guess we're going to watch that one.

Matt, do you want to let the listeners know what's coming direct to streaming?

Sure.

Well, first of all, just those titles you just mentioned, they're going to be available

on Tuesday the 11th for rental or to buy, I suppose, if you need a copy of Jackass, Best

and Last, which I definitely do.

Available to stream.

These are now theatrical releases that are coming to streaming specifically.

The MJ BioPick Michael will be streaming on stars on August 10th, in case you want to

know the very accurate and not at all selective story of Michael Jackson's life.

Yeah.

Olivier Saises, the wizard of the Kremlin will be on Hulu on August 14th.

I haven't seen this one yet.

Yeah, I heard it was terrible.

I haven't heard the best things.

No, but it will be streaming on Hulu on August 14th.

It's about Putin, right?

I believe so.

Yeah.

It's Jude Law plays Putin, I think.

All right.

I give that a shot.

I'd like to see it.

I would definitely give it a shot.

Yeah.

And finally, on HBO Maximum, we have Normal with Bob Odin Kirk continuing his somewhat inexplicable,

but not unlikeable string of playing action heroes.

And that one, I think it's maybe it's more of a detective thrill.

I haven't seen it yet, but I will probably be watching that one as well on Homebox Office

Maximum.

And then we have some direct to streaming titles.

We have Don't Say Good Luck on Netflix with Melanie Linsky and Sunny Sandler.

Sunny Sandler plays Sophie ready for the spotlight as the lead in her high school musical.

Until suddenly she's living with even more drama at home than on stage directed by Julia

Hart of I'm Your Woman with Rachel Brosnahan.

And this sounds like if it's not too adult, which I don't know how Sandlery, this Sandler

movie is, that sounds like something my older daughter might like.

I might have to.

Yeah.

I mean, it looks like it's green it and see if it's appropriate.

And BB Newworth is in it.

She's always welcome.

And Steve Buscemi.

It looks like it's not, this looks like to be the first sunny Sandler film to be made

outside of the Sandler verse.

Like somebody else actually hired her.

It looks like, and maybe we'll find out it's co-produced by Happy Madison, but it looks

like she was actually hired to be to act in this, which is nice.

Okay, so that's don't say good luck.

And then we also have Hellcat, a woman wakes in the back of a moving camper trailer where

they badly infected wound a voice from the truck towing it tells her they must reach

a doctor within the hour or she will suffer a horrific fate.

That is available on shutter, not surprisingly.

It sounds like a shutter release Hellcat.

I have some bad news about her.

Is Hellcat?

That's a comment book right now.

Bad news about don't say good luck.

It is in fact co-produced by Happy Madison.

So she hasn't, it's still, it's still the nepotism affair, but it might be, it might be

a good film.

We shouldn't judge it before we see it.

John Loveitts isn't it?

How bad can it be?

John Loveitt shows up.

I'm sure it has lots of acting.

And next week on Film Spotting S View, we are going to get back to what we do best or

at least most talking about streaming first movies.

That's right.

That's what we're all about.

The S View, the streaming video unit.

And we're going to be talking about the last house, which we presume as we record this

will be the big movie on Netflix next week.

It is available on August 7th on Netflix.

It is a sci-fi, twisty sci-fi kind of movie starring Gretelian Wagner Mora.

It is a family sealed inside their home.

But why?

I don't know why I haven't watched it yet.

Jordan has seen it already.

I haven't watched it yet.

It is directed by Louis Latterier of Now You See Me and Fast X Fame.

And that's the, that's going to be our main review next week on Film Spotting S View.

Yeah.

Back to business next week.

No pussy footing around with theatrical films.

All streaming.

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My name is Jordan Hoffman.

And I'm Matt Singer.

Thanks for listening.

Now, Matt Singer, you did all the spider man week happened to coincide you and your family

were in Hawaii recently.

Yes.

Yeah.

Now, do you know what else happened in Hawaii?

The Brady Bunch.

Didn't they encounter a terrible spider?

I got to admit, I didn't expect that to be where you were going.

I was going like volcanoes.

Wasn't there a horrible spider in the Brady Bunch in Hawaii?

Isn't that where that happened?

I'm trying to remember.

The Brady Bunch is a little before my time.

I'm the honest.

I have some of the movies.

But and I'm sure I encountered the TV show as a kid.

But it was not this is not.

Let's fair this way.

They're not inviting me on TV Death Match to talk about Brady Bunch versus.

Well, in all honesty, I did see some photos of you and your gorgeous family.

You're adorable to children, flopping around with lays and coconuts and all kinds of stuff

out there in Hawaii.

Look great.

But I have a funny Hawaii story.

Of course you do.

I'm going to make it quick and then we'll actually talk about spider man.

Okay.

I have been to Hawaii but one time.

Hawaii is wonderful by the way.

I mean, no, as advertised, it's nice.

Right?

Spoiler.

Hot take.

Hawaii is nice.

Hawaii is nice.

So the only time I ever went was years and years ago.

We're talking 15 more years ago when I used to work for an idiotic company called ugeo.com.

And this was a sham of a website that was actually eventually closed down because the

original owners were such shisters that they pulled the wool over everybody's eyes and

made it and lied about the traffic and all kinds of stuff.

But anyway, the point is this for a brief period of time, various movie studios decided

that they would send me and others at other websites around the globe to go to sets when

they would shoot films.

And this was, this is pretty dishonest.

It was basically payola.

I mean, they give somebody a great vacation and then they would ultimately write about

the movie and say nice things.

Well, it's pretty not reviewing the movie.

They're writing stuff.

But we usually did later.

I mean, later.

Later or later.

So yeah, well, if you have, again, you've you now you have no scruples.

You are accusing me of having no morals.

Listen to you.

And do you guess what movie they sent me to to visit the set?

I think you might have mentioned this way.

I mentioned I was going away.

But is it battleship?

It's right.

The movie battleship.

A movie that I've still never seen.

The timeless classic.

Is it Taylor Kitch?

Taylor Kitch, right?

Taylor Kitch.

I don't remember.

Here's who I remember.

Was it Peter Berg?

Was it Peter Berg?

It was Peter Berg.

It was Peter Berg.

It was Peter Berg.

It was pretty.

You know, everything you think about that guy seemed pretty as well.

Was Liam Neeson?

Was Liam Neeson?

Yes, I did not see him though.

The people I met were Peter Berg, who was fine.

But I got to watch the great otter in action.

Yeah.

And I got to watch him direct.

I was like, just let one of the interns do it.

I mean, just it's ridiculous.

What's going on here?

Wow.

I met and delighted in meeting one Rihanna.

That's right.

I was going, who was the female lead?

I knew it was someone you would not expect from the motion picture battleship based on

a board game.

Yeah.

Rihanna actually and I hit it off quite well.

Of course you did.

Of course.

A young woman by the name of Brooklyn Decker, who I don't know.

What else has she done?

I don't know.

She was in battle.

She was in an Adam Sandler movie.

Have to look it up, which one it was.

And also, I wouldn't say Jesse Plemons was Jesse Plemons in this horrible movie.

You might be, I mean, it's possible, but you might also be crossing some Friday night

lights.

So here's the thing.

So they sent us out and I, and I, business class from New York to Hawaii.

Yeah, ridiculous.

And then we get there and Jesse Plemons was in this movie.

Yeah.

I got to watch the great auditor, Peter Berg, try and inspire a moment of improvisational

comedy between Rihanna and Jesse Plemons on the deck of an actual ship.

They sent us to Pearl Harbor, which was interesting.

We got to go to the museum and everything.

Right.

And there's an actual ship there, the USS something or other.

And we were on the deck of this ship watching these, and I got to watch Peter Berg try to

inspire improv.

And Peter Berg was the worst director in history.

And he's like his, his cues were, all right.

Now do it like fried chicken.

Do it like Kentucky fried chicken.

I can't think, look, what is this?

What is that mean?

What is that mean?

Complete nonsense.

And then Rihanna will be like, what?

Because she's not really an actress.

What does she know from any of this?

And she had an acting coach on set, like glued to her the whole time.

Okay.

Who was like, you're in battleship, lady.

I'm going to give you the best I can.

But plemins would take this ridiculous note, do it like Kentucky fried chicken and try

to make his line funnier.

I don't know.

So anyway, they said it's to the actual ship.

But the thing is they put me up in literally the nicest hotel I've ever stayed in in my

life.

And I remember immediately googling how much does this hotel room actually cost?

It was like $8,000 a night.

Just stayed in the hotel room.

It was absurd.

It was absurd.

And then the funniest thing was the way they had planned it is that like when it was

all over the quote unquote set business where I did my hard journalism.

Yes.

And it was like me and Scott Calura and IGN who's still over there and a couple of other

good guys.

And one dope, I'll tell you about later, really.

Could you imagine they sent us out the dinner?

Like the nicest restaurant is the most expensive restaurant I've been to.

On overlooking a cliff near Diamond Head, is that what's called Diamond?

What is that big thing?

Well, Diamond Beach Diamond Head.

You were there.

I don't know George.

Or like the most expensive, like we're dining outside in the night time watching the sunset.

And they were feeding us.

And there was one of this guys who you may have met over the years.

And he ordered a steak and he didn't like it.

And he sent it back.

He said, this is too cooked.

I want it more rare.

Like you're more on just eat the goddamn steak.

That have some, have some, have some class here.

I'll never forget that.

Never.

Never will I get it.

Anyway, there's a point.

Oh no, there's a point.

I'm at this hotel.

And they made it so that like not only did I get a free vacation to Hawaii, they tagged

on an extra day.

It was like, oh, what a shame.

Your flight isn't until 9 p.m. that night.

But you could stay at the hotel all day and do nothing.

I gee, with.

So I'm at the world's fanciest hotel in YKK area, whatever the hell it is in Hawaii.

And I go to the brunch.

And who do I see?

And I bring a book with me because I'm going to I'm going to lounge by the beach.

I have a Star Trek novel.

I have one of the Star Trek Vanguard novels.

Get the, get the Red Alert sound effect ready Sam.

Like feel it coming.

The first person I see is Brad Takede, the husband of George Takede.

Wow.

And I'm so excited.

I go, hey, that's Brad Takede.

Never thinking that no shit Brad George is going to be there too.

So I just go over, we're there waiting for the waffles.

And I'm like, hey, you're Brad Takede, you're the best.