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Hello media consumers, welcome to Pressbox Monday.

It's Brian Curtis.

It's Joel Henderson.

What's up man?

How was your weekend?

How was a food court?

Man, you know, it's funny when you ask me how the weekend goes because it always just

goes about so fast because it's just like, I'm going from this place to this restaurant

to this indoor play place to this playground.

So it goes by very fast but I reckon it was okay.

How about you?

What's funny because I, whenever I don't hear from you on a Sunday, I just feel like you've

been swallowed by the ma of fatherhood.

Oh man.

I don't know.

I mean, God forbid anybody ever asked me to think about the NFL because I just, I really

can't tune in until, I mean, really took college football seasons over.

It's funny because the Cowboys beat the Texans on Sunday.

And this wasn't even a Dallas Fort Worth versus Houston trash talk kind of text.

I was just going to be like, dude, the Texans are O and four.

How about that?

Because I know you're not a Texans person.

And then I started to send that text and I was like, actually, Joe's not watching this

game.

Oh man.

I'm sorry.

I'm, you know, I had the TV on.

I'm aware that the chiefs beat the Raiders last night.

There we go.

So I do know that happened.

That's the thing that happened.

Did the Lions play the Panthers?

Did they play the Panthers and sending that football?

Okay.

So I saw some of that.

There you go.

There you go.

Aware of it.

A football that was happening.

Yeah, man.

I wish I could say I was taking some sort of political stand, but that's not what's

happening here.

You're not.

By the way, you're back on Twitter too.

I'm on Twitter to promote tailgate.

And because you announced very dramatically last week that you were off.

Well, no, I said that I'm not an active participant in Twitter.

Okay.

Sometimes people tweet at me.

I'm really more on blue sky.

You know what I see?

Are you blue sky?

So in Saturday and people make fun.

I had like a 90 ski thread about college football.

I just do a weekly.

I'm just tweeting about the games.

But that's about it.

So yeah, you know, I haven't, are you on threads, Brian?

I think you are.

I was, but I don't think I am on purpose anymore.

I'm an inactive user of threads.

I just haven't been able to find a reason to keep going back to be honest.

It's really too much.

Before we started working together, I used to look forward to those tweet and ski threads

on Saturdays because that's how I just kind of communed with you.

And now that whole thread's in my phone on Saturday.

So I don't even have to go to social media for that.

I love it.

I'll tell you what I did this weekend.

Okay.

After I introduce our producers, I say it blankly.

John, not bones, Jones and Sarah Reddy who's sitting in with us here in the fancy studio

in Los Angeles.

Joel, I launched a newsletter.

Wow.

Why?

No, I'm just joking.

It's like saying I started a podcast.

You don't say it's like, I, I, no, no, no, no, no, no, I knew that guys.

I knew that Brian started a newsletter and I'm excited about it for him.

The news should be too.

The newsletter is called Now They Tell Us.

Great name.

It's a ringer newsletter just so everybody's clear because when you go to Substack sometimes

it sounds like you're leaving the place you were or you're looking for additional employment.

This is a ringer newsletter on Substack.

It's free.

Okay.

Absolutely free.

And if we want to give you money.

Well, maybe we can work something out.

Okay.

I think it being a media newsletter I should probably not be accepting payoffs from the general

point.

Some people might want to just get you a little coffee sometimes.

You know how it goes when you have fans.

Yeah.

Send me a used book or two.

I might not be opposed to that.

But it is a free newsletter because we know you're spending lots of money already on

Substack newsletters, including the fine ones here at the ringer, Sean Fennesys.

That's right.

Tom Pelliseros.

We got Todd McShay's over on B-Hive.

You're spending a lot of money.

Now they tell us is absolutely free.

I love it.

That's good.

You're a man of the people.

A man of the people.

This is, yeah, we're going, you know, blue collar here, right?

This is me sitting around with firefighters and cops talking about what announcers are doing

on television.

Yeah, man.

Going down to the local diner, you know, subscribe to the father news camera comes by to talk

about, you know, who you're voting for this week.

So that's, that's where Brian likes to spend his time.

Me and the hard hats.

Absolutely.

To your question of why, one is I missed writing regularly.

Yeah.

Podcasting, as you know, very well swallows up a lot of time.

And my answer when everybody asks me, hey, you know, hey, what's your next piece?

What are you working on?

I would always say, I really want the podcast to be great if we're doing the podcast.

Like, I don't want to do something and feel like I'm short-changing box number one or

number two.

I feel like we all collectively have done a good job making sure that box number one is,

is going in the direction we want it to.

So now I'm like, I want to write.

I really do.

So you've decided that you don't care as much about the top gifts and you'd prefer to

put a little bit more energy into the newsletter.

I'll be slacking off.

You're looking at a blank Google doc right now.

I'm pretty sure I had nothing for you.

No, no, no, stop it.

Also, there's so many things that I stumble upon or go out of my way to collect that just

feel like they need a different home than a podcast.

For instance, I'll see a really great piece in the New York Times and the financial times

and Harper's in Texas Monthly.

And I could mention it on here, but how incredibly frustrating is it to be driving along listening

to a podcast and here's somebody mentioned a piece and you're like, I got to remember

that.

I can't click on that and just read that thing you're talking about right now.

I think people are going to benefit quite a bit from your recommendations.

I have.

You linked to this Lawrence right piece on death row.

You reminded me.

I've kind of felt like I want to get into celebrity memoirs and biographies and Michael

Douglas definitely seems like one that just the life he lived.

I mean, I already found out about the Kathleen Turner revelation.

I won't spoil it for you.

You can look it up.

But yeah.

So Brian, and also I want your book recommendations.

Brian is really good at that.

So to get it all right here at once, I think a lot of us will benefit from this.

Yes.

So now they tell us is going to come to you in two parts.

Part one is going to be my column, which might be a traditional column.

It might be bullet point of thoughts.

It might be a short feature.

It might be a remembrance.

It might be an oral history.

Let's call it a column.

That's part one.

Okay.

Part two is going to be a list of the best things that I read and watched and listened

to over the course of the week.

And whenever I see people tweeting stories, I'll say, read Joe Anderson on college football

in the ringer.

And I am all for that, right?

I endorse that sentiment.

But whenever somebody tweets something like that, I'm like, what exactly did you like

about this story?

What was good about it?

Because sometimes they say that I don't exactly believe they actually read the story.

Do the favor for a friend, right?

They're doing a favor for a friend.

So when I send my picks, I'm going to try to tell you what I liked about something that

you could read or watch or listen to.

And the first post is up right now.

It has a long essay about why I cover the media, something I've done from a very, very

strangely young age.

What other people are involved in dating and football and other things like that.

I was interested in sports writers.

Sportscasters, there's a big essay about that.

And you will also get in this inaugural essay, all of my picks for the first week.

This is stuff from Texas Monthly, from the aforementioned Harpers, from newspapers,

and to Joe's point, Michael Douglas has a memoir coming out this week.

So I went to eBay and bought a bunch of Michael Douglas magazine covers.

Oh, look at him.

Which I scanned in.

You can find them in this post going all the way back to 1979.

And my little snarky comments about Michael Douglas magazine covers.

There was a part of my lives when I felt that Michael Douglas was in so many movies.

He was the guy.

He was the guy for a moment, right?

And he was a particular kind of guy.

Like I always liked him.

Even when he was the evil business guy, like he was at Wall Street for some reason, I just

had a liking for him.

And I was looking at these covers as funny.

I put one up from Vanity Fair 1995 when he was in the movie Disclosure.

Oh my God.

That's the one I was thinking of, the one Demi Moore.

Yes.

And he was 50 years old when that came out.

And I was like, oh my gosh, I just feel like I grew up with middle-aged Michael Douglas.

Just right.

You did.

Man, War of the Roses.

There you go.

One of the best movies.

I mean, it was just fantastic.

Actually, it's something I should watch again just for the hell of it.

But no, man, Brian, first of all, people please read it.

I read the newsletter this afternoon.

And I mean, first of all, I forget about how good a variety is.

And it's like the best possible version of why I joined the athletic.

OK.

Why I'm leaving New York.

Yeah, right.

But also, Brian, I hate to say this.

I had never read your piece in Grantland from 2011 about your father.

I had never read that before.

And it's beautiful.

And I hope people, if you haven't had a chance to read it, it's linked really high in

the newsletter.

You should read it.

Because I felt like I got to know you even better.

So yeah, please, please subscribe.

Thank you so much for saying that.

Yes, if you are a fan of this podcast, this is a rare ask from me.

Go to Substack, find now they tell us and subscribe for free.

Absolutely free.

I'd love to have you.

I think you'll really enjoy it.

And it will be coming to your inbox very, very soon.

All right.

News, Joel.

OK.

There's news.

There's news.

There's political news.

OK.

The Texas Democratic nominee for governor.

Gina Hennahosa.

Going to be in this podcast studio in just a few minutes.

Uh-oh.

Wow.

Did you get a black shirt on you dressed up?

I dressed up.

I always wear this shirt, though, if you're not for podcasts, so normal dress up.

Before she comes in, I want to talk to you about the news we got over the weekend about

this blue wave and the potential size of it.

There's a new batch of New York times in Siena Poles.

We're never as interested in Siena as we are this time of year.

Well, it is a double-a tournament every non again.

That's right.

They are in your bracket somewhere.

Let me give you some of the top lines from these polls.

Texas, where James Talleriko is running against Ken Paxton.

The new poll finds Talleriko up six points.

That's crazy.

Six points.

In Ohio, where shared Brown's trying to get back into the Senate, running against the incumbent

John Houston, shared Brown is up three points.

In Alaska, Mary Peltola is up seven points.

The Senate racing Kansas is even.

Crazy.

In Iowa, Josh Turek running against Ashley Henson trails by one point.

That's about as good a batch of news you could get if you were a Democrat, but wait, there's

more.

What about Governor's races?

The same batch of polls finds Democrats ahead in Iowa way ahead in Iowa.

Alaska, Texas, Ohio, and trailing by five in Kansas.

So I ask you.

Same question I ask whenever we talk about the Talleriko race.

Joe, do you believe this is really happening?

Most recently during primary season, we talked about how people fall for polls over and

over again.

They're all we haven't really perfected the way that we do this now.

There's all these different factors, the kind of person that's likely to participate in

a poll is not the kind of person that is a that's not an accurate measure of what the voting

public is going to be like.

So I'm just going to be relentlessly cynical and pessimist about this is your corner.

Yeah.

I mean, until until look, I mean, what I don't believe in the Democrats.

Look at the world, I look at the world we live in, you know, and like it got that way

and some in some part.

And along the way, a few times, I believed in the polls.

And so I nobody has told me that they figured out a way to perfect the practices of polling

in the last six months.

So I just choose to be here and believe that it's not going to happen.

What about you?

I understand your skepticism.

I think I have the same answer.

As I do on the telerico racing Texas, I'll believe it when I see it.

Also, when we talk about some of these states, Ohio, Kansas, these are places to voter

for Donald Trump again and again.

Yeah.

So you're talking about converting Trump voters into Democratic voters.

That's a thing that is actually happening.

If you read the right through of these times, polls, they talk to a number of people that

they surveyed and they said, Hey, I voted for Donald Trump once, twice, three times.

I'm voting Democratic in this election.

You and I might not understand how that process works.

But there are people like that.

And for the Democrats to have a wave of this size, there's got to be a lot of people like

that.

I think or or those people don't are not inspired to vote.

Right?

Like that's got to be that's got to be a big part of it too.

It's like, well, I'll never support a Democrat.

I'm not inspired to go out and vote for anybody that's going to support Trump right now.

But there's even a lot of stay home.

I mean, Trump won Texas by 13 points.

How many people are staying home if that sort of movement is coming from people who aren't

voting?

Yeah.

This is the trouble I have believing in those polls because I feel like there's always

that group of people, they round up a focus group.

And I was like, well, you know, I think I'm going to consider the Democrats this time.

And then they never do it.

I don't trust anybody's public proclamations about this stuff for sure, particularly

people who have voted for Trump before because I just don't I don't think they're reliable

witnesses basically.

Here's the question.

If you're a newspaper reporter, yeah, you're looking for good news for the Democrats and

you're looking for bad news for the Democrats.

Trying to be a balanced reporter.

Not part of the resistance.

What story would you write right now that's bad for the Democrats?

It's a fascinating question, right?

I said, good one.

If you're just out there being like, hey, you know, I'm recording all this hope, you

Kansas.

The edges of the blue wave.

What do I write?

I mean, Jonathan Martin had one solution in Politico when he wrote that Democrats are leaving

a bunch of winnable governors races on the table by focusing so much on the US Senate.

Yeah, you know, so I think there's a couple things.

I mean, again, they're not the most popular things to talk about.

So Ashley Sankler.

Remember this character who, you know, conservative commentator, one of the mothers of Elon Musk

children.

She's made the allegation that she believes he had something to do with voting machines.

And so, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but if I were a person that was like a little

bit cynical about how this might go, I'd be like, has anybody looked into those claims,

like has anybody tested that out?

And then I would also think about, has anybody done anything about voter turnout and the impact

of the voter rights act?

I know that this is an annoying person when it comes to this, but I really do feel like

that is one of the more under told stories about the upcoming election that note, we've

not really talked about a grappled with the impact of the decimation of the voting rights

act.

I love that you keep coming back to that.

I really do.

And it's funny when you ask some of these candidates about it, isn't it?

Because there aren't a lot of great answers about restoring those provisions.

If I were looking for the bad news for Democrat story, yeah, maybe you can find that main

with Troy Jackson.

Man.

He is such an unknown quantity, but again, it's a state that Biden won.

It's a state that feels like if Susan Collins is ever going to lose, this is going to be

the cycle.

Wait, wait, let me, you know what?

It's a great question.

What would do the numbers say there?

I didn't, that's not actually not one of the ones that was listed.

Well, the New York Times had Susan Collins up in a recent poll, which was kind of the

two-be-sure paragraph of this, you know, that, well, it does all the great everywhere.

Right.

And it gives Jackson sort of an unknown quantity thrown in there for Graham Platner.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because I'm going to say, other people, other blue wave that they're talking about, of

those five states, Maine is not one of the ones listed, which is sort of interesting,

given how much attention was being paid to it, you know, three, four months ago.

Like, God, so much attention.

I also read a skeptical Times piece this morning about whether any Andrews can be

Darling Graham and the South Carolina says race.

Again, if the wave is expanding, it gets you to Kansas.

Maybe it gets to South Carolina.

Maybe Mississippi's been mentioned too, but I'm like, if we're talking about, are we

absolutely sure that the Democrats can win a Senate race in South Carolina against Lindsey

Graham's sister?

Seems like a pretty big blue wave.

The visual of the week, Angel, came at an event in Vondalia.

I must say in that right, Ohio.

I feel like that's a name I have read in newspapers without having pronounced.

Yeah.

Vivek Ramaswamy, who is running for governor of Ohio and trailing Amy Acton in just about

every bowl, tried to pick up a child.

This was a child, according to reports that was holding a sign that said, my dad is deployed

proud military kid for Trump.

So, Ramaswamy's like, okay, you're up here on the podium with me.

I'm going to pick you up.

The kid did a thing.

Kids love to do.

My daughter does this all the time where you just go complete, ragged all dead weight.

Yeah.

She's going to go try to drags to pick you up.

He almost drops the kid on camera.

An unbelievable visual.

Do you have as a parent any sympathy for Vivek Ramaswamy here?

I don't know why he felt the need to pick the kid up.

It's a tough, I'm still at the age where my kids are always asking me to pick them up.

And they're heavy.

I was walking around with my two year old yesterday.

It's tough.

And if you're not prepared, but the thing is he was prepared.

He went in for the hold.

So, I don't know.

The thing is, if you were inclined to not vote or make fun of Vivek already, I've seen

his arms.

You know what I mean?

Like, nobody.

It was going to mistake him for Jack Mulain.

Or Abdul El Sayed.

Oh, man.

Yeah, man.

He kind of walked up.

We got a lot of candidates that are pumping iron this cycle.

But Ramaswamy was the one who did the batting cage ad remember.

Oh, yeah.

That looked pretty bad, even by my low sport standards.

He's having a tough go of it.

And he's having this thing.

And I can't remember who wrote this story.

It was more about like, in states where Republicans run black candidates for like governor

or senator about how they tend to underperform even polling averages.

And I kind of felt like Vivek has gotten some of that.

Like just, I don't know.

Like there was a, I felt like his base never really, the Republican is never really warm

to him.

And it seems to be reflected.

So if you told me that that, like that he's going to lose, I'd be like, yeah, I can

see that.

You know, here's another funny thing about that event.

No, hi, oh, John Grootman was there.

We talked him up.

We really did.

We talked him into existence, not just as a bar stool talking head, but as a political

surrogate.

I did not know that he played football with the Ohio Senator John Houston at the University

of Dayton.

I didn't know the University of Dayton had a football team.

Look at you.

Looking down from your big 12 school.

Did you know, did you ever heard of Dayton, the Dayton Flare's football team?

I just think of them as a basketball, edge of the Nancy Atterman bracket team, kind

of like Sienna.

Yeah.

Didn't I kid that he got drafted by the, the Nick's first round?

He was, I'm not going to get it here.

So I'm going to let it go.

But anyway, here is John Grootman on the stump.

I'm from Ohio.

My mom and dad are from Cleveland.

I was born in Sandusky and I went to the University of Dayton and I'm damn proud of it,

man.

Last saying I'll say is, John Houston is a lot more than my friend.

He was a great player.

He intercepted 17 passes on the gridiron.

He was a great player.

And I know why he's a great player.

It was because of his work ethic and his commitment and his day-to-day mental toughness.

He will never quit ever on you or anybody.

Last year for Houston.

We have one football coach to her media guy who isn't involved in politics.

I mean, man, it's such a natural transition, right?

I mean, from Tom Osborne to Jack Kemp, like that's all.

Tom Osborne never gave a speech like that.

Well, this is put that out there.

Jack Kemp also, very intellectual, never gave a speech like that.

Because that is the thing that has always made Groot and Unique, right?

He's always been, not addition to being coach, he's been playing coach for a very long time.

We are going to run Spider-Wyb and Anna straight to the polls.

I don't mean.

Yeah.

I mean, it's just the thing, it's, you know, kudos to him.

Now we know all his cards are on the table, right?

Oh, yeah.

He's sent, he's all in.

Yeah.

Oh, by the way, Isaiah says, and I was looking this up too, it was OB-topping.

Oh, there we go.

Sorry.

I was thinking of John Houghton-Hosten and B.A.

podcast here at the Rier.

He might be able to tell.

He did that.

Good tweet from Ben Jacobs, the fine political reporter.

Someone needs to book John Groot and on a Sunday show and have him evaluate whether

various statewide candidates are Groot and Grinders.

Okay.

But we did more of John Groot and in our lives, but I endorsed that particular idea.

Also, there was a great piece by Emily Davies the other day about how John Houston is so

obscure in the Senate that a lot of people in Ohio think that Sherrod Brown, who's running

to get back into the US Senate, is actually the incumbent in that race.

And that Houston's team has not dispelled that notion.

They're happy to be, hey, you know, Washington is broken.

Dispense.

Send me back to the Senate.

That's so fine.

Yeah.

I mean, but it is like, I felt because he ran for office again a couple years ago, right?

And lost.

So it makes, you know, I could understand if you really are not tuned in.

But that doesn't speak well for what he's doing as a public servant, I would imagine.

It's not great.

He was the lieutenant governor of Ohio and then he became Senator when JD Vance became

vice president.

So he's only been in office for a year and a half, a little bit more.

Okay.

But even so, I mean, he's a guy.

I remember seeing him at the State of the Union earlier this year, I was just watching

it on TV and I was like, who is that?

He's like, oh, that's a member of the United States Senate.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's got a, he kind of looks like a cross between like George W. Bush and, I don't know, man.

There's another kind of mix here.

I don't know how to explain it.

He looks like a guy who would have had 17 interceptions in college though.

Solid safety.

Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of interceptions.

It's a lot of interceptions.

I mean, that's at least four a year, you know?

We may need to do some fact checking on those stats.

That is John Grudens' recollection, not.

Very fair point.

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She's also the Democratic nominee for governor.

A New York Times Ciena pole release this weekend, which I texted to several friends with

emoji eyes, had her up three points over Greg Abbott.

We're so happy to have her in our LA studio today.

Gina, welcome to the press box.

It's great to be with you.

So I mentioned that New York Times Ciena pole.

Yeah.

It's not the first pole you've led over the last month.

Based on your polling in your sense of the race, do you see yourself leading this race by

three points now?

I think it's dead even.

I do think that it favors us, but I think it's all about turnout at this point.

We're 29 days out.

So we're so close that at this point, the only pole that's going to matter is election

day.

It's neck and neck.

And yeah, I think we are leading, but we just need everybody to turn out.

Take me back to last October when you got into this race.

You're running against a governor who's won all three of his gubernatorial elections by

10 points or more.

What was your theory of why Abbott could be beaten this time?

I knew he needed to be beaten.

He had turned his back on our public schools, on our kids.

I fought vouchers since 23.

James Taurigo and myself were the co-chairs of the effort to fight vouchers, which was

his number one legislative priority, Abbott's number one legislative priority in 23.

We beat him.

We joined with the role of Republicans who love their public schools too.

And we beat him in the regular special session and then four special sessions after that.

Then he went into his primaries and he just poured millions of dollars in against Republicans

who voted with us.

Like, that had never happened for a sitting governor to do that.

Go against his own party.

And then he got the votes he passed it last year.

And when he did that, I just knew that rural Texas was mad at him.

I knew a lot of Republicans who I had worked for years in this bipartisan space that was

public schools where we could still do good things for kids that they were angry.

And I just knew we had to try.

I knew we had to try to reach for that brass ring because if we don't, then we'll never

have the Texas we deserve.

Our kids will never have the schools.

They deserve Greg Abbott has just decided he's going to do the bidding of his donors.

He doesn't really care about.

He doesn't fear the voters anymore.

So Brian mentioned that Abbott is one, his last three elections were more than ten points.

But obviously the Democrats losing street for governor goes back further than that.

Gary Marl, Tony Sanchez, Chris Bell, Bill White.

As a Texan, why do you think Texans have repeatedly and soundly rejected Democratic candidates

over the past 30 years?

I mean, it's hard to know.

My memory doesn't go back that far.

I will say, and one thing that I would like to make sure your viewers knew is Greg Abbott

had a hundred million dollars when this campaign started, this election cycle.

Right.

The main reason people said, like, what are you doing, Gina?

But I will say this is a midterm election with Trump in the White House.

And last time we had that was 2018.

And Democrats swept even in Texas.

In Houston, they swept all of Harris County.

And so those national, like political implications, they do matter when it comes to statewide

politics.

Last elections, like it was bad, Biden stepped down last minute, Kamala ran.

And like that didn't inspire confidence.

All Democrats got hurt before that.

It was the midterm election with Biden in the White House.

And in our history with like three exceptions in our whole history in the United States of

America, apparently the party that is in the power in the White House loses power in

the midterms before that was COVID.

So like recent memory, national politics, I think, made it hard for Democrats.

But I also think, I think the opportunity for 26 is this.

This is an election about who does Texas belong to.

Is it by and for the people or is this the billionaire's world?

Because it is so hard to make it in Texas right now.

Like when I was low girl, Texas was a land of opportunity where if you worked hard, you

could make it.

Like it was, like if you could make it, it's the opposite.

I say it's the opposite of what Frank Sinatra is saying about in New York, like if you can

make it, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere.

Texas is like, you can't make it here.

You can't make it nowhere, right?

It's like hard work paid in Texas.

And hard work doesn't pay the same way it used to pay after 12 years of Greg Abbott.

Like I am meeting working Texans, middle class Texans who are having to line up outside the

plasma center to get blood two to three times a week just to pay for their bills like teachers

having to do this.

And so people are feeling like it's harder to make it like the American dream is out of

reach.

And because all of this is in our face with data centers, which are the physical manifestation

of a governor during the bidding of the money dangerous because he invited them all in with

rich tax breaks and there are no protections.

It's just people get it.

It's like 99% of us at this point are in the same boat.

And it's no longer about right versus left.

It's about like 15 billionaire tech dudes and then all the rest of us.

And so I just think it's gotten so bad that people are receptive to it.

My background is on the labor lawyers.

I've always been working on working families issues.

And then also I come to public education from the perspective of a mom, right?

Not like from policy walk like other people's kids should be doing this.

No, I want this for my kids.

And in that way I connect with Republican moms and dependent moms parents, right?

Who just want a solid education for their kids.

So I just think we need back to basics and government.

To go back to more recent election, Donald Trump won Texas by 13 points two years ago.

Yeah.

In order to win this election, do you need people who voted for Trump to vote for you?

Yes.

No question.

And what's going to be the issue where they flip from voting for Donald Trump to voting

for a Democrat for governor?

This high cost economy is really forcing Tuxen's just to take a second look at who they're voting for.

And the what I'm hearing is people just want change.

People know who's been in charge and no Greg Greg Abbott's been there 12 years.

They know Republicans have been in charge.

And so it's not that suddenly people are pro Democrat.

They're just like whatever this is, we don't want it.

And so it creates the space, this opportunity where even with MAGA,

and nobody's fighting data centers harder than MAGA in Texas.

Because all the data centers have descended into rural Texas.

And there's just no legal protections.

Like really like nothing.

I talked to some people who were in the pain handle who were told that their municipal water source

was now legally obligated to the data center and in times of drought.

When there's not enough water that the citizens or residents will be cut off first.

So like when I say there are no protections, like there are no protections for Texans right now.

So I sat down with like MAGA who like they had, they asked me tough questions about culture war issues.

Like they want to ask me about Sharia law and constitutional carry.

And I'm like, look, I don't agree with you on I, I support background checks

when it comes to I call it permanent carry with that.

So I support the selections on about that.

And like as we've been fighting these culture wars, really the only people who have won are like 15 billion

or tech dudes.

They're just amassing all our money, all our power and about to blow up the world if we don't come together fast to save

ourselves.

So that's what this election is about.

And after sitting with even MAGA who were very skeptical about me before, like after sitting

and understanding that thing and understanding what this election is about is about again, who does Texas belong to?

They stood with me in a press conference in Red Oak Texas, Red Red Red Republican County right outside of Dallas.

So that's the opportunity.

And yes, I am inviting everybody to be a part of this fight in this effort because it's going to take all of this coming together to save ourselves at this point.

You know, Gina, another theory of the case in Texas is that it's not just a red state.

It's a non voting state.

And so like from 2024, they were saying voter turnout in Texas was about nine points lower than the national average with the drops of being most dramatic and hairs bear.

And Dallas County's bear is spelled B X A R for the non Texans here.

Those are the big urban counties in Texas, the Democrats need to dominate the win.

So I'm just curious about like what is your campaign doing to address issues like the turnout issue because this like places in Terrent right now were Republican officials have eliminated dozens of like polling places in mostly black and Latino areas.

So I know they're trying to stop change from coming, but they're not going to stop it.

What they're doing is backfiring.

So in Terrick County, for instance, they started this what like maybe two months ago,

they started talking about shutting down all these polling locations and then people turned out people are now locked into make sure they vote.

It is had the opposite effect.

People are angry.

They now understand the importance of their vote because people are trying to stop them from doing it.

And so I do think these efforts across the state to kind of make it harder for people to vote just have the opposite effect this year.

I just think people are hurting in a way that I've never seen before and people understand this is probably our last best chance.

I think last election cycle.

I think a lot of young people stayed home because again, that whole switch up.

I have a 21 year old son and I watched that debate with Biden, the presidential debate where he couldn't perform.

And my son is like not into politics at all.

And when he saw that Biden can perform, he looked at me with like eyes of betrayal.

And he knew Trump was bad, but he just thought we had something better to offer than that.

And I think young people were turned off and didn't show up.

And I don't play them.

We should have had something better to offer than that.

We, Kamala ran.

Yes, but that whole switch up, people didn't like the way it was chosen for them.

Anyway, that whole thing was just a stain on Democrats.

I don't blame Kamala for that.

But look, I think people, young people are back.

We're seeing it in the primaries.

I got twice as many votes as Beto got in 2018 in his primary and I had eight opponents,

seven or eight opponents because people like I think at this point, Democrats,

young people would crawl on glass to vote because they understand the stakes.

And, and we're winning over even Republicans, independents in a big way.

Young people, Latinos who went for Trump last election cycle are back in a big, big way.

We flipped a seat, a state Senate seat in Tart County, swung at 31 points this year.

Taylor remett got 79% of the Latino vote in that election,

which is astounding.

So, yeah, I just think it's a perfect storm of opportunity and we can't blow it.

Well, to follow up on that, like, you know, the hope is that people don't have to get mad to vote.

Right?

That eventually, at some point,

that people will start trying to restore the voting rights act, whatever.

And you were also part of the group of Democrats that left the state when they tried to do the redistricting thing.

So, like, is there any, like, if, when you get elected, is there anything you could or planning to do to restore some of that to make it so that it's more fair and equitable so that people don't have to, you know, get pissed and stand in line for four hours to vote.

So, what I believe, what I support is an independent citizens redistricting committee.

Politicians should not be deciding who their voters are.

Voters should be able to pick who they want to lead them.

That is the ideal.

Now, I will tell you that Republicans in Austin have already said they will come back next year and redraw maps because the US Supreme Court

get at the voting rights act.

And now there are no rules.

Like, we thought we saw bad jurymandering before like we ain't anything.

And when they do that, they'll eliminate five Democrats from Congress and then tears later with the census will get another like four to five seats in Texas because we're just growing faster than all the other states.

So, if we don't flip, that's ten seats off the table for Democrats in US Congress.

There's not Democratic control Congress with ten seats just off the table.

Like, Texas becomes too big at that point.

The math no longer works.

And so, every American should care about this race for governor because we need a governor who will veto rigged maps.

And I will be that governor and look, it doesn't matter which party you belong to.

If control of Congress is determined before the first ballot is cast, then we all lose, right?

Because then elections are rigged.

Politicians don't fear the voters.

We cease to be America.

And those are the stakes in 2026 in this governor's race.

Ask about a story you referred to a minute ago.

One of it was from 2024.

And I think one of the most interesting stories of that election was that some Hispanic voters in the Rio Grande Valley flipped and voted for Donald Trump.

You're from Brownsville.

We grew up in Brownsville.

In your experience, why did those voters flip to Trump?

A couple of things.

One is, border security was a big concern at that time.

So if you'll remember, there were the caravans that had come over.

People were sleeping under bridges.

Just felt chaotic, did not inspire confidence, and Democrats got punished, right?

Biden, frankly, was hiding on immigration issues, didn't lead.

And Latinos along the border just did not like that chaos, and Democrats got hurt.

And I will say that I think Trump's appeal in Texas to Latinos and beyond is because Trump has always said he's different.

And he is.

People want change.

People don't want politics as usual.

Trump said the system's rigged.

And people know that's true.

The system's rigged.

I mean, and it's a system we pay into that is working against us.

He's not rigged it for himself.

And people don't like that.

And you see that his polling is underwater even in Texas.

But I think that Democrats have been defending an indefensible system for too long.

We need to see it and say it.

We need to say, yeah, you know what?

The reason why it's harder to make it in Texas is because the system's rigged.

The policy that is the priority in the Texas legislature is all driven by money to interest.

Not the people of Texas, right?

And so I think that was Trump's appeal.

You know, I just just for a second, I want to because you've talked about the culture war things here.

And last week you said something about Democrats taking the bait here.

And I just want to kind of for a moment just lay out something here.

So a year and a half ago, I lived in California, and I had to make a decision about where to move.

And for years, the expectation that I was going to move back to Texas to be with my family and my friends.

And then my wife and I decided we couldn't do it and move to Maryland instead.

Here's why in a state where women can't get an abortion, maternal mortality rate is higher than a national average.

Couldn't risk my wife getting sick.

Close family member that's transgender friends who have parents who are transgender children.

They don't feel like Texas is safe.

And in a state that has issued all these sweeping bans on DEI and cultural studies, like how could I justify sending my kids to school.

And in a state with that sort of open hostility towards diversity, inclusion and equity.

So I was just thinking like, I know with some people call cultural issues actually impact the quality of life from millions of Texans.

So like why shouldn't Democrats defend those people in their side of those issues?

I think absolutely my record is to defend all Texans from this governor and the leadership's punching down at people.

And that's what's happened.

The problem is that we have let them determine what we are talking about.

Right? And they are setting the agenda for what we are talking about.

We have to set the agenda.

And the way we win is to set the agenda on what all of us impacts all of us.

And those are the economic issues. And it's not just because the price of eggs can you afford it.

It is because it's about who we are.

I think the reason why the culture wars have taken off with Republicans is because it is who Republicans serve up to explain the economic struggle people are experiencing.

And so long as people are experiencing more and more struggle, it'll be harder to bring us back all together.

The root cause I think of why they're so successful with culture wars is because people are struggling in a way they've never had before.

And so Democrats for too long have not said, you know why is the reason you're struggling too much?

Because of the billionaires and the corporation CEOs and this trickle down economy that yes, even elected Democrats are voting for.

In Texas, like there is blame to go around. It's one party that's been in control. But also the culture has been to do the bidding of corporate America of these multinational corporations, frankly.

So we had this it we're just at a place where I just feel in it's because I was on an airplane today, probably, but it's like we're in a situation where we first have to like secure our own oxygen mask.

And then and then we can start, you know, worrying about others, but right now everybody is struggling economically everybody.

And so focusing on that, making sure people know we've heard them, I think then we'll create an environment where people can be more generous to people who are not like them.

I think it's just a matter of leadership how we lead. And I think we have to say the reason why they are pointing at a different subgroup of people every week to blame for your struggle is because the real reason is they're bought and paid for and doing the bidding of the corporate interests.

And somewhat of a relevant follow up to that, both French is running for statewide office in Texas. He had a tweet about South Asian students who were at the UT Ohio State game the other day.

Yeah, we should be actually in that tweet.

This man is not fit for office. That was not even the worst of what he's posted. This man is something wrong with him. And he should be nowhere near statewide office.

So one question for Democratic governors across the country is what can they do to rein in ice and Trump's immigration agenda? If you get elected on day one, what would you do?

So one thing that Abbott has done to kind of facilitate it is he so now the detention centers are run by private prison companies.

He's put our Texas National Guard in the private prison company detention centers to cut their staffing costs. And so they make, you know, it's just about make that's why they exist. They exist to make money.

I would take Texas National Guard out immediately Texas. These are people who are sacrificing to serve in times of emergency. This is not appropriate for them to be in there.

He also allows for the locking up of little kids with their parents in these detention centers. No, the state allows that. That's why Liam was locked up in Texas.

That's child abuse. It ends when I'm governor. The Abbott has created a kind of licensing that allows for that to happen. There's just no place for that.

And look, I think the bully pulpit is needs to be used by a strong governor who says in the state in Texas, we have laws, we have rights.

And having masked agents come into Texas where they shoot first, ask questions later, killed a man on his way to work. It was a case of mistaken identity. Like nobody is saving that environment to American 17 year olds in South Texas, last month,

or pulled over a beaten by ice on the way to enlist in the Marines. Right.

There's a man he was who slept on a detention cell floor two weeks ago in Austin, Texas with a bullet in his back put there by ice.

He didn't get he didn't have any pain medication. They left him to suffer. I never even seen anything like that modern history in the criminal justice system for murderers. Murderers aren't treated that way.

This was a man who's doing his door dash delivery. So it we need a governor who stands up for the rights of toxins who says we have certain standards even our own state police have body cams dash cams we need a transparency mass agents have no place in Texas to stand up and at minimum use the bullet pulpment and use the courts where we can and can be successful to protect and defend.

And Texans people are angry about this. Let the knows especially are angry because there's now racial profiling that's allowed to happen. We know the US Supreme Court said that's allowable and it is happening.

And so I do think that all that chaos and violence that is being perpetrated by ice in Texas will play into this election.

So obviously, you know, one of the biggest planks of your campaign is public schools. You mentioned it earlier, right.

And under Abbott's administration, you know, taken over these school districts, I'm a H.I.D. product. Right. He's messed up.

H.I.D. Fort Worth some other ones for what could what do you think you'll be able to do what could you do to build back the trust and public schools to rebuild them after this, you know, this string of like mismanagement of our public schools.

Yeah, it's not rocket science. But by the way, you should know the plan for Houston ISD. They're going to convert 100 public schools into AI schools. It's a model where they replace teachers with education guides.

This is after Greg Abbott received over a million dollars from a Kenzie Price who is this like model of AI schools. I mean, is this this tobian reality? And that's all again driven by money.

That's what this is about. Look, it's not rocket science. We all know what's the never one thing we can do for a child's education is a great teacher in the classroom. We all know that.

Smaller class size, great teacher in the classroom. And we just need to get back to basics. That and that is how over the years I have established alliances who are supporting me to this day with Republican moms with Republican superintendents with Republican coaches like people who love public schools.

Because they see what is happening for what it is. It's one big rift. The reason they're taking over the reason Abbott's taken over school districts and he started with the largest school district in the state is because he wants to control those contracts. All the money that comes second to healthcare.

Public schools is the biggest line item in the budget and Abbott's donors don't get richer off of paying teachers their worth. Right. So they instead look for ways to privatize.

And that's what's happening. So my approach is back to basics. I would fire Mike Morath who's a current Texas education agency commissioner and put an educator in that position. He.

I don't know if he gets the man personally, but he's been there for over 10 years and our schools are off track. We need him back on track. He's a tech entrepreneur and more and more money is going just to tech contracts and it's not our kids don't need to be spending more time on screens.

So fire him, put an educator in place, pause the eighth of accountability system. It's based on a rig star test. It's a test that the Texas education agency creates.

Then the kids take it and then they decide where the passing score is going to be after the kids take it. So it's like it is rigged right there should be an objective standard.

So you don't buy the schools like that these test scores because that's what they're saying in HSD where the test scores are up now. Right. That's their argument for why things are working.

No, the test is rigged. I mean the test they have kids doing written they have third grade kids doing typed essays.

Have of them get zeros. They have typed essays being graded by AI. When school districts they have to pay for every one test to get retested.

Like the rate of errors is through the roof. Right. I mean it's just a messed up test. It is just a system that has been set up to take over school districts.

And I would wipe clean all those vendor contracts and use that money to pay teachers to be amongst the highest paid in the nation.

My number one priority for public schools will be to get a great teacher in the classroom. A lot of teachers have left the classroom in Texas.

Vendon exodus of teachers and we just have to get him back. And I've got a lot of teachers who show up at my rally since safe if your governor I'll come back.

Here's one thing I wanted to ask you I was the student of the University of Texas in 1998. That was the election when Republicans won every single statewide office in Texas.

And when I talked to my friends back home who work in politics they are excited about the cycle. They're fired up but it's almost hard for them to believe a Democrat can win statewide because a Democrat has not done so in a generation.

How do you confront the problem of Democrats not revolve with the Democrats not thinking that a Democrat can win?

Yeah I know. I mean it's funny because we I do encounter it and even when they start to see that you can win they're like well then how are you going to win the next time I'm like really.

They're onto the real act of looking for the problem.

Look I will tell you it is the success that we have had that has converted people. Yes there were a lot of doubters when we launched and and few people believed we had a chance.

But with what people are hearing on the campaign trail even from Republicans Republicans who are stepping out and saying I'm not voting for Greg Abbott again with the polling with having one elections it was Terrick County this year yes and Siphair outside Houston they flipped the school board and Paralan where they flipped the mayor seat and Leander where we flipped the mayor seat like these winds are happening right so when the evidence is before your eyes.

It's easier to believe I'll put it that way so to that point you put a couple of really good polls on the board as you said there was a time in this race with people like what are you doing why are you challenging Greg Abbott what are you asking for now from national Democrats.

Yeah money is it resources is it surrogates to come into Texas and campaign with not surrogates this is all about Texans because like does anywhere else matter really.

To be a Joel no.

Number one in our hearts so listen Greg Abbott has spent $80 million on paid communications I spent seven and we've been able to reach a lot of Texans there's to like 20% that we haven't reached we're up on broadcast TV it's really expensive to do that in Texas there's lots of media markets big media markets.

So we are asking for people to invest in this race because we need to be we don't have to spend dollar for dollar what Abbott spends we've already shown that we just have to be able to spend enough to reach the people with who I am and what I'm about that's what you do with camping cash use it to people who you are what you're about that's actually Greg Abbott's problem people know who he is and what he's about and they don't want him right and so he stuck where he's got all this money and he's the more he spends the better I do.

But we just need to be able to reach those people we typically in these interviews with a Joel lightning ground okay he's got some questions for you about Texas.

Okay don't be scared okay here we go you ready.

I'm not good what.

All right you're all time favorite Texas Democrat.

I am Richards.

Okay.

That's what you thought you'd say.

I thought I saw that as Democratic governor of Texas.

I was sure to say it's somebody other than average.

Too late.

Your all time favorite Texas Republican.

Huh.

That's a good one.

It's hard for me to say you know why that's a true question.

Let me tell you why because if I say it they can never get elected again.

But let me say this I'm going to tell you a class of Texas Republicans.

The Texas Republicans who went up against Greg Abbott and stood in support of their public schools in 2023 to say public schools.

They went up against the big money against their governor to do it was right.

That took a level of courage.

This probably the most courageous thing I've seen any politician do in Texas.

Favorite musician from Texas.

So my favorite musician is Adrian Casada.

He's brilliant.

I don't know if you know he is.

But you know.

No I'm sorry.

No I don't know.

This is not me.

The Ag Puma.

They he's he's brilliant and he's in all sorts of all sorts of work and right and I've known him personally since our kids play together on the playground in.

Like early I don't know long time ago but just a proud of what he's done and he's the music behind one of our ads too.

Joel likes to tease me about not knowing anything about music so I'm glad we found a hole in.

You got me you got me I'm always like I should.

Yeah.

Alright you got a Brian Brian really enjoyed that I'll know it.

Book or movie that best explains Texas.

That's a good one.

I mean I will tell you I mean it's not a time that I know but Lonesome Dove is just the classic that people go to and and the movie.

The screenwriting in the movie by a Texan was true to the book and it was beautifully done.

Favorite place to vacation in Texas.

So I will tell you we have a family farm like right next to round top and I love to go there just to disconnect.

It's been my husband's family for over a hundred years and it was like an original like check establishment and it's so peaceful and so beautiful there that when I go there just disconnect from everything.

Have you been to Royars then?

Yes I have been to Royars.

Okay my family we always make a real road trip up to Royars whenever I'm home.

Yeah it's a good place.

It's a good place.

Yeah this is outside of round top but yeah it's just beautiful rolling hills beautiful country.

Your favorite Texas longhorn?

Archmaning.

Alright we believe in arch come on now.

Final question.

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