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Decoding the Gurus

Decoding the Gurus

An exiled Northern Irish anthropologist and a hitchhiking Australian psychologist take a close look at the contemporary crop of 'secular gurus', iconoclasts, and other exiles from the mainstream, offering their own brands of unique takes and special insights. Leveraging two of the most diverse accents in modern podcasting, Chris and Matt dig deep into the claims, peek behind the psychological curtains, and try to figure out once and for all... What's it all About? Join us, as we try to puzzle our way through and talk some smart-sounding smack about the intellectual giants of our age, from Jordan Peterson to Robin DiAngelo. Are they revolutionary thinkers or just grifters with delusions of grandeur? Join us and let's find out!
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2026-08-10 12:00:00 • 1:44:32

DOWNLOADED Lab Leak Groundhog Day: COVID Origins in 2026 with Worobey, Andersen, and Holmes

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This episode includes a comprehensive discussion on the evolving scientific evidence surrounding the origins of SARS-CoV-2, largely strengthening the hypothesis of a zoonotic jump linked to the Huanan seafood market and global wildlife trade. It also addresses the persistent lab leak hypothesis, contrasting scientific findings with the politicized public and media discourse, and reflecting on the significant personal and professional challenges faced by scientists involved in the origins research.

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With the Trump administration’s newest political persecution of Anthony Fauci and three years after our first lab-leak special, now seemed like a useful time to return to the topic. Fortunately, you do not have to rely on our knowledge of viruses, as we have somehow managed to convince the same three esteemed virologists, Eddie Holmes, Kristian Andersen and Michael Worobey, to come back for an update. Mike, Kristian and Eddie return and offer us their read on where the scientific evidence on COVID’s origins stands in 2026. They take us through the main lines of evidence and the often overlooked role of the wildlife trade, explaining why the lab-leak story remains so appealing, and how their own assessments have shifted as more evidence has emerged. We also discuss the standard claim that the media suppressed the lab-leak narrative while noting that coverage across both alternative and mainstream outlets remains heavily skewed towards it (and almost entirely detached from the research literature). Finally, we end on a characteristically positive note by discussing the Trump administration’s attacks on science and the ongoing campaigns against high-profile scientists and public health figures. Our guests describe their experience of committing the heinous offence of following the scientific evidence and arriving at conclusions that contradict the preferred views of polemical politicians and prominent media pundits. In short, this episode is our modest attempt to drag the topic back towards the science, while also focusing on the price paid by the people who actually conduct the research and care about the evidence. We are not neutral when it comes to the ongoing attacks on science and scientists and do not pretend to be. Links Our guests: Michael Worobey , Kristian Andersen , and Eddie Holmes Our previous interview with Worobey, Andersen and Holmes Lab Leak Fever with Philipp Markolin Our earlier interview with Stuart Neil on SARS-CoV-2 Sam Harris, Alina Chan and Matt Ridley: Did SARS-CoV-2 Escape from a Lab? Bad Boy of Science: Is the COVID Lab Leak Hypothesis Dead? Kristian Andersen on his early emails, released messages and changing assessment Kristian Andersen’s congressional testimony and document collection Kristian’s thread responding to the use of his Slack messages Michael Worobey on why his assessment changed WHO SAGO’s 2025 assessment of the origins evidence The July 2026 Senate release of the Slack messages Kevin Drum’s reading of the earlier Slack archive The current White House lab-leak page The July 2026 Fauci hearing Naomi Oreskes on scientific integrity and “ethical pessimism” Nature : Climate scientists report online attacks Alwine et al. on the harms to scientists, research and pandemic preparedness Relevant research papers and reviews Andersen, K. G., Rambaut, A., Lipkin, W. I., Holmes, E. C., & Garry, R. F. (2020). The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2. Nature Medicine, 26 (4), 450–452. Crits-Christoph, A., Levy, J. I., Pekar, J. E., et al. (2024). Genetic tracing of market wildlife and viruses at the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic. Cell, 187 (19), 5468–5482. Holmes, E. C. (2024). The emergence and evolution of SARS-CoV-2. Annual Review of Virology, 11 (1), 21–42. Liu, W. J., Liu, P., Lei, W., et al. (2023). Surveillance of SARS-CoV-2 at the Huanan Seafood Market. Nature, 631 (8020), 402–408. Pekar, J. E., Magee, A., Parker, E., et al. (2022). The molecular epidemiology of multiple zoonotic origins of SARS-CoV-2. Science, 377 (6609), 960–966. Pekar, J. E., Moshiri, N., Lemey, P., et al. (2025). Recently reported SARS-CoV-2 genomes suggested to be intermediate between the two early main lineages are instead likely derived. Virus Evolution, 11 (1). Pekar, J. E., Lytras, S., Ghafari, M., et al. (2025). The recency and geographical origins of the bat viruses ancestral to SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2. Cell, 188 (12), 3167–3183. Temmam, S., Vongphayloth, K., Baquero, E., et al. (2022). Bat coronaviruses related to SARS-CoV-2 and infectious for human cells. Nature, 604 <a href=" rel="noopener noreferrer"...
2026-07-21 08:50:00 • 31:01

DOWNLOADED Supplementary Material 53: Matthew the Succulent, Bin-faced Politicians, and Very Very Tired Economists 75 plays

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This episode includes personal anecdotes about injuries sustained during pickleball and bouldering, followed by a brief mention of a new Chinese AI model. The hosts then dive into a discussion on Cory Doctorow's "enshittification" concept, exploring the popular sentiment that products and services are declining in quality. They debate whether this perception is an objective truth or a form of confirmation bias and romanticized views of the past, presenting counter-arguments with examples of societal improvements in areas like medicine and living standards.

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We endure the ravages of time to deliver you this exhausted Supplementary Material. Bowed but never broken, the decoders persist. The full episode is available to Patreon subscribers (Full Episode: 2hr 20 mins) Join us at: Supplementary Material 53 00:23 Introduction: Matthew the Succulent's Post-Holiday Report 02:15 Pickle Ball Injuries & Bouldering Curses 07:40 They Won't Let You Talk about Middle-Aged Sports Injuries 08:37 New AI Models 09:31 Cory Doctorow, Trevor Noah, and Confirmation Bias 23:45 The Glorious Past and the Terrible Present 28:28 The Horror of Tinned Asparagus 30:26 The Collapse of Industries & Stores 36:16 Negativity Bias 37:11 AI Prompting 101 44:30 AI and Research Applications 50:28 Nigel Farage vs Count Binface 59:10 Nigel Farage Knighted on Russia Today 01:02:53 Hasan's Advice for Ukrainians 01:07:51 Russian Apologetics 01:13:32 Vlad Vexler and soft Anti-Vaxx rhetoric 01:19:35 Guru Red Flags 01:23:48 Bret Weinstein in 2020 on Vaccines 01:28:53 Gary vs Piers Morgan 01:30:58 Piers Morgan being a blustering idiot about Elon Musk 01:36:55 Gary's Pitch 01:41:55 Alternative Tax Proposals 01:46:18 Matt and Chris' Economics 01:47:22 Gary's Wealth 01:52:07 Piers the sleazy liar 01:55:25 Gary is the best inequality economist in the UK 01:57:08 Gary's Predictions 02:00:40 Gary is Very Tired 02:07:14 A message from anyone else to finish? 02:14:25 Final Takeaways 02:16:55 Matt attempts to wrangle another holiday Links The Verge: China delivers a one-two punch to America’s AI dominance What Now? with Trevor Noah: Why Google, Apple & Big Tech Keep Making Everything Worse — Cory Doctorow and Trevor Noah Baumeister, R. F., Bratslavsky, E., Finkenauer, C., & Vohs, K. D. (2001). Bad is stronger than good. Review of general psychology, 5(4), 323-370. Count Binface on BBC Morning Live — full interview Count Binface on Newsnight Hasan offers Ukraine his advice to “give peace a try” Report on polling from Ukraine in 2025 that does not show what Hasan claims Report on more recent polling that still does not show what Hasan claims Vlad Vexler tweets about vaccines Bret’s Tweets in 2020 on Vaccines (and here) Chris noting Bret’s anti-vaccine rhetoric in 2020 (see the comments under the tweet) Kyiv International Institute of Sociology: Ukrainian views on exchanging Donbas for security guarantees Decoding Academia 34: Matt and Chris’ Economics Piers Morgan Uncensored: “I’m QUITTING!” Gary Stevenson vs Piers Morgan on Wealth, Economic Growth & Elon Musk
2026-07-09 21:30:00 • 22:34

DOWNLOADED Supplementary Material 52: Under-Optimized Academics, Tired Economists, and Bailiwick Clarifications 3 plays

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This episode includes a humorous critique of extreme wellness and optimization routines, questioning the practical value of some popular lifestyle "hacks." It also delves into a prominent intellectual's controversial proposal for billionaires to fund "anti-woke" academic chairs at top universities, and briefly touches on an economist's new documentary advocating for a wealth tax.

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Two absolutely shattered academic heroes heroically drag themselves through yet another supplementary episode to bring you the important guru news in between their restorative breaks. The full episode is available to Patreon subscribers (Full Episode: 1hr 32 mins) Join us at: 00:00 Introduction 02:13 Eliot Paisley's Anatomy of an Optimiser 08:52 Eric Weinstein wants a University Position and a Stipend 16:09 The Failure of the Anti-Woke Quasi Universities 19:19 Gary is Knackered Again 20:45 Gary is the best inequality economist in the world 24:36 How do I make a Documentary? 33:04 The End of the Year Approaches 37:44 Public Accountability 40:13 The Neurodivergent Trump Card 40:59 A clarification on bailiwicks 42:43 Tucker Carlson & Chris Cuomo discuss Russian Apologetics 48:53 Ukraine is selling weapons to Mexican Cartels 54:54 Civility Porn Judo 56:09 When Hasan met Prof. Jiang 01:01:37 Conspiracy Theory Buffet 01:07:24 Looking Good by Comparison 01:11:21 Comparing Epstein Conspiracies 01:24:03 Agreeable Conspiracism 01:27:13 Outro and Piers Morgan Invite Links Eric Weinstein appeals to billionaires on Twitter Elliot Paisley: Chris Williamson Is A Slave Gary’s Economics: My Documentary is Coming Out THIS WEEK!! – why you should watch it The Times: Gary Stevenson: I want a wealth tax on the super-rich — like me News Nation: Tucker & Chris Cuomo: The FULL Conversation Hasan Debates Professor Jiang On His Wild Predictions | HasanAbi Archive
2026-07-08 12:40:00 • 27:58

DELETED Decoding Academia 36: Revenge of the Chimpanzees *Patreon Series*

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This episode includes an examination of research using eye-tracking technology to study social attention in great apes. The discussion covers how these primates follow gaze, infer intentionality from human actions versus non-agentic movements, and remember specific events to anticipate future actions, touching on the concept of theory of mind.

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In this Decoding Academia episode, we venture into comparative psychology, focusing on a fascinating line of work by Fumihiro Kano and colleagues on social intelligence and theory of mind in great apes. By showing apes short videos and tracking where they look, researchers examine whether they expect others to act based on what they have seen, what they know, or what they falsely believe. This approach offers a remarkable window into the evolutionary roots of human social cognition or, alternatively, the most elaborate way yet devised to explore what a chimp thinks of a man in a chimpanzee costume. We discuss what this kind of research might reveal about social intelligence across species: whether apes understand intentions, knowledge, and false beliefs; how their abilities compare with humans, dogs, and other animals; and why studying minds without language requires ingenuity, caution, and tolerance for participants who may simply decide the whole enterprise is beneath them. There is also some discussion of the usual complications: small samples, difficult data, flexible analyses, replication, and the gap between a beautifully designed experiment and a result we should treat as settled fact. But the main story is the genuinely intriguing attempt to study Theory of Mind beyond humans. Along the way, we discuss chimpanzee costumes, zoo life, dogs, and the disturbing possibility that crocodiles may be running more sophisticated cooperative hunting operations than most university committees. *The full episode is available on Patreon (57 mins)* 00:00 Introduction 03:57 Chimpanzee Theory of Mind & Eye Tracking 13:03 Attention, Grabbing and Orientation 24:03 The Role of Memory in Anticipation 26:10 Revenge of the Researcher 31:21 Statistical Concerns 43:44 Comparative Psychology Thoughts 49:13 Non-climbing Tigers and Cooperative Crocodiles 51:20 Matt's New Friends and Outro Relevant papers for the episode: Kano, F., & Hirata, S. (2015). Great apes make anticipatory looks based on long-term memory of single events. Current Biology, 25 (19), 2513-2517. Kano, F., & Call, J. (2017). Great ape social attention. In Evolution of the brain, cognition, and emotion in vertebrates (pp. 187-206). Tokyo: Springer Japan.
2026-07-03 23:10:00 • 1:31:30

DELETED Professor Jiang, Part 2: Cosmic Jiang's Jenga Tower of Bullshit

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This episode includes a review of a professor's controversial geopolitical predictions, forecasting events like a US civil war, an unprecedented third presidential term, and enduring conflicts in the Middle East and East Asia. It then delves into a multi-layered conspiracy theory portraying reality as an illusion controlled by financial elites, media, and culture, driven by a "war for reality" between established bankers and emerging tech interests. Ultimately, the discussion connects these grand theories to mystical concepts such as Hermetic Philosophy and the Kabbalah, suggesting current global turmoil is part of an overarching cosmic design.

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We return for Part 2 of our coverage of “Professor” Jiang, the internet’s favourite new geopolitical prophet, secondary-school sage, and proud owner of an ever-expanding box of educational props. Having already treated us to multiple maps, chess pieces, and a sealed metal case of predictions, Jiang is back with more predictions, more props, and even higher-level insights. This time, we get the dramatic unveiling of a fresh batch of forecasts, including the forthcoming U.S. civil war, AI surveillance states, a grand bargain with China, the Greater Israel project, and the coming East Asian conflict. During all of this, we pause to consider Jiang’s status as a Beijing-based geopolitical commentator who manages to be just critical enough of Chinese surveillance to sound daring, but yet is most reliably focused on predictions of imminent Western collapse, American hubris, and the doom of the U.S. empire. But the real journey begins when Jiang sets the geopolitics aside and invites us into Plato’s Allegorical Cave, updating it for the modern era by linking it to Korean television melodramas. Out come ominous black blocks, stacked into a metaphorical tower of global control: the military-industrial complex, the financiers, the World Bank, the WTO, the media, Hollywood, schools, universities, and culture itself. What started as “predictive history” devolves into an Alex Jones-style conspiratorial rant about international financiers, globalist bankers, controlled media, and brave alternative truth-tellers seeing through the mainstream lies. The alternative media occupies a Schrödinger-like position in Jiang’s system: corrupted and controlled when it suits his narrative but also brave and rebellious when it is giving a platform to people like Jiang. Stephen Bartlett, meanwhile, fulfils his podcasting duty as a perfectly crafted avatar of the Diary of a CEO audience: curious, credulous and very receptive to the message that the system is rigged, the shadows are fake, and you, dear listener, are one of the brave truth-seekers with the courage to listen and look behind the curtain. Finally, we also reach Cosmic Jiang. The bankers are at war with the tech bros. Reality is consciousness. Matter is vibration. We are all fragments of God returning to Source. Hermetic philosophy explains Plato. Kabbalah explains the Middle East. Israel is trying to force the hand of God. The world will end; paradise will return. It turns out all of that geopolitical analysis was actually just a sideshow... So join us for the conclusion of Professor Jiang: a masterclass in massive domino-based reasoning, geopolitical dressing on bog-standard conspiracy theory, and the enduring appeal of intellectual junk food. Sources Diary of a CEO: Professor Jiang: World War 3 Is About To Begin, Let Me Explain! Mehdi Hasan vs. “Professor” Jiang Professor Jiang talking about the Nephilim and Other Such Stuff: The World Is a Prison – The Secret Meaning of God And Creation | Prof. Jiang Xueqin Professor Jiang promoting creationism and denying evolution The National Security Strategy of the United States Document
2026-06-30 21:10:00 • 2:32:34

DELETED Professor Jiang, Part 1: Geopolitical Pantomime

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This episode includes a critical analysis of a self-proclaimed geopolitical pundit who uses a "psychohistory" framework to make confident, often lurid predictions about global events. It details his theories on a US-Iran conflict, the "Petrodollar's" role in American empire, and a looming World War III, using a chess analogy to outline the grand strategies of major powers. The discussion highlights how he leverages kernels of truth to weave conspiratorial narratives, often contradictory, for a broad audience.

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On Decoding the Gurus, we regularly get to hear a lot of truly “high-level” ideas, but the much-requested subject of this episode’s decoding is up there with the best of them. We are talking, of course, about “Professor” Jiang, the internet’s favourite new overly confident online guru, now that Jordan Peterson is indisposed. Jiang Xueqin is a secondary school teacher who has found an online audience thirsty for his particular style of confident bullshit, and he is more than ready to roll out his “predictive history” analyses on command. Be prepared for some serious professorial cosplay as Stephen Bartlett, from Diary of a CEO, spares no expense in his endless quest to indulge every modern online crank, offering a grab bag of props as well as his usual thoughtful pauses and awe-inspiring requests for definitions. Thrill as the honorary professor performs as a grand seer and geopolitical strategist, complete with a tabletop world map, wargame prop pieces, whiteboard flowcharts, coloured chess sets, and a dramatic metal briefcase full of sealed predictions. So get ready to experience his hit-parade of forecasts (Trump's 3rd term, endless war with Iran, eventual U.S. “loss”) along with his trademark conspiratorial mélange of real-ish facts, misstatements, and domino-chain inevitabilities. The end of Part 1 is a sign of things to come, featuring Jiang's post-apocalyptic advice on how the good people can rebuild society with the help of prophets and visionaries (AKA gurus) and soothe yourself with the knowledge that we are all ultimately just a God-derived fractal consciousness anyway. <And if you can't wait, Part 2 is already available on the Patreon!> Sources Diary of a CEO: Professor Jiang: World War 3 Is About To Begin, Let Me Explain! Mehdi Hasan vs. ‘Professor’ Jiang Professor Jiang talking about the Nephilim and Other Such Stuff: The World Is a Prison– The Secret Meaning of God And Creation | Prof. Jiang Xueqin Professor Jiang promoting creationism and denying evolution The National Security Strategy of the United States Document
2026-06-20 22:35:00 • 31:59

DELETED Supplementary Material 51: Parasitic Palate Cleansers, Selective Understanding, and the "Context" 3 plays

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This episode includes an analysis of a "sense-making" document that an AI identified as containing anti-Semitic tropes about a parasitic "durable minority" within society. It also discusses a blueprint for a techno-authoritarian republic and criticizes public figures for fabricating victimhood from perceived "leftist" aggression while downplaying the presence of anti-Semitic rhetoric within conservative circles.

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We exercise good faith and grapple with the ever-versatile context window in this unintentionally thematic episode. Supplementary Material 51 The full episode is available to Patreon subscribers (Full Episode: 1hr 18 mins) Join us at: 00:00 Introduction 01:40 Jordan Hall's Suspicious Semiotic Parasites 08:52 A New Covenant for the American Republic 14:33 Dave Rubin's support group after Jubilee 14:52 Dr. K vs 20 Depressed People 20:05 The Fifth Column Welcomes Batya Ungar Sargon (Again) 21:18 Anti-Semitism isn't really an issue on the Right 25:39 Moynihan agrees that Tucker Carlson is a Leftist 30:40 I don't really know what he has said... 37:38 When Taylor Lorenz met Brad Palumbo 41:24 Taylor is a Good Faith Person who is often misrepresented 44:32 Was Taylor cheering on the killing of healthcare CEOs? 51:16 Suggesting Targets or Providing "Context" 57:48 The Victimhood Pose 01:01:01 Selective "Understanding" 01:06:41 The Moral Grandstanding Escape Hatch 01:12:10 Strategic Ambiguity across the Spectrum 01:15:22 The Connecting Theme! Links Jordan Hall discussing his neo-Nazi interview with David Fuller: Sensemaking, Gatekeeping & the Propertarians, Jordan Hall Sensemaking & Gatekeeping: Talking with Fascists Jordan Hall’s Markdown Tweet Dave Rubin Clip of him coping over his Jubilee Performance Batya Ungar-Sargon and the Status Revolution (Members Only #328) Brad CONFRONTS left-wing star journalist Taylor Lorenz!! DTG- Jordan Hall: Sensemaking, or the superficial pitter-patter on the neocortex? Taylor Lorenz: 'Somebody needs to do it'
2026-06-12 22:00:00 • 39:50

DELETED Gurometer: Iain McGilchrist *Patreon Preview* 1 play

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This episode includes an in-depth evaluation of Ian McGilchrist against 11 attributes to determine his status as a secular guru. The discussion covers his all-encompassing left/right brain hemisphere theory, his sophisticated yet apparent self-aggrandizement, and his high scores on grievance mongering and moral grandstanding. He is ultimately categorized as an intellectual guru, scoring similarly to figures like Ken Wilber, and distinct from those focused on conspiracy or political bomb-throwing.

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In this Gurometer edition, Matt and Chris feed Iain McGilchrist into the sacred instrument to see where exactly refined country-parish-minister vibes land when combined with galaxy-brained hemispheres, civilisational decline narratives, decorative scholarship, and the other features of guruosity. Iain McGilchrist Gurometer 00:27 Introduction 01:00 Iain McGilchrist Reactions 04:40 Galaxy Brain-ness 06:39 Cultishness 08:28 Anti-Establishmentarianism 11:39 Grievance Mongering 14:30 Self-Aggrandizement and Narcissism 17:21 Cassandra Complex 19:54 Revolutionary Theories 20:48 Pseudo-Profound Bullshit 24:10 Conspiracy Mongering 25:08 Excessive Profiteering 26:10 Moral Grandstanding 27:15 Overall Score 28:47 Bonus Round 33:04 Guru Binary Scores 37:18 Outro
2026-06-10 13:45:00 • 48:10

DELETED Supplementary Material 50: The String Theory Mafia, Shameless Propagandists, and The Topography of Semantic Space

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This episode includes a critical analysis of a panel discussion featuring prominent online figures, highlighting their evasion of direct challenges to controversial claims about topics like Jeffrey Epstein and vaccine efficacy. It critiques the current state of public discourse, particularly in podcasting, where a lack of accountability allows for the spread of unsubstantiated theories under the guise of free speech, ultimately undermining intellectual progress.

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We become highly effective at exploiting the gap between salience and relevance as we universalise semiotic capability and listen to more brave renegades talking about how amazing they are. Join us, won't you? Supplementary Material 50 (Full Episode: 2hrs 23 mins) 00:24 Introduction 02:07 British People Struggling with Compliments 04:53 Matt loves SOME episode titles 08:42 Nachos Pronunciation 10:13 Brett Weinstein vs Michael Tracey 29:08 Brett pivots to his Anti-Vaxx Hits 42:32 The Hug Box World of Podcasting 45:55 When Eric met Joe (again) 47:29 Eric and Rogan re-litigate Sean Carroll's criticisms 55:55 Eric's insatiable desire to be linked with Epstein 01:14:36 Eric Weinstein is a Construct 01:16:36 When Ana met Candace 01:18:18 Useful Idiots and Shameless Propagandists 01:19:59 Ryan Grim's reaction to being in Iranian Propaganda Videos 01:26:22 Zeteo gets to the bottom of the Iranian Casualty Figures 01:30:24 Ana and Candace's Hug Session 01:36:31 A horse named shoe? 01:47:26 The Holocaust Media Industry 01:53:48 Jimmy Dore makes the Religious Pivot 02:01:39 The Brave Renegade Narrative that Never Gets Old 02:12:57 Horseshoe Populism 02:16:23 Jordan Hall x AI Instructions 02:21:46 Agent Hall infecting your Mattrix Links The Romesh Ranganathan Show: Tom Davis On Success, Setbacks & Being a Dad FULL PANEL: Should we abolish all podcasts? Michael Tracey, Bret Weinstein, Lauren Southern Joe Rogan Experience #2503 - Eric Weinstein Candace Owens x Ana Kasparian Financial Times - How China is breaking apart a people and its culture Zeteo: Where Did the 40,000 Iran Protests Death Toll Number Come From? Ana Kasparian repeating anti-semitic conspiracies about 9/11 More fun tweets from Ana The Young Turks: Tucker’s 9/11 Documentary Raises Some HUGE Questions Jimmy Dore has tapped into God after stopping smoking Pot Jordan Hall Decodes AI
2026-05-31 06:30:00 • 2:24:31

DELETED L. Ron Hubbard: Sleeping with Bandits, Hunting with Pygmies And So On 4 plays

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This episode includes an exploration of the complex nature of Scientology through a detailed interview with its founder, L. Ron Hubbard. The conversation delves into the spiritual and self-help aspects of Scientology, differentiating it from psychology and psychiatry, and emphasizing its transformative impact on followers. Hubbard addresses criticisms and clarifies misconceptions, such as the notion of Scientology being a form of hypnosis, while highlighting its universal applicability and purported ability to elevate the human spirit.

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The Decoders wrap up cult season by dissecting a titan of the cult scene, the founder of Scientology, Lafayette Ronald Hubbard or L. Ron for short. A prolific science fiction author, L. Ron founded an alternative self-help movement and then developed it into his cosmic self-help 'religion' of Scientology. Scientology has now been the subject of multiple documentaries and even a fairly detailed South Park parody episode, so it feels like many are aware of the general 'deal' of Scientology. But how about L. Rob Hubbard as a guru... how many people have actually taken the time to sit down and just hear the guy out? Here at DTG HQ, we are all about the good-faith deep dives, so we decided to devote some time to analysing a 1966 Rhodesian TV interview with L. Ron Hubbard, in which a friendly Scientologist interviewer (not identified as such) politely tees up Hubbard to explain Scientology. So join us to find out how L. Ron invented a “workable science,” a “religion of religions,” and a self-help machine that raises IQ, fixes life problems, and proves life after death. By modern standards L. Ron can seem a bit quaint, but because of that, he serves as a useful primer in the core techniques of Guru manipulation, including narcissistic invented biographies, disdain for materialism, a persecution complex, flattery of followers, and anti-establishment disparagement. All of the classics are on display! So get ready to wake up to your true potential, process your engrams, and so forth. Links Source Material Interview: Interview with L. Ron Hubbard in Zimbabwe Behind the Bastards: L. Ron Hubbard Series Going Clear: Scientology & the Prison of Belief (Documentary) My Scientology Movie: Louie Theroux
2026-05-12 02:15:00 • 44:33

DELETED Supplementary Material 49: Calibrated Podcast Expectations, The Great Consciousness Debate of 2026, and Russell Brand is a Bad Guy 7 plays

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This episode includes a candid conversation between two international academics as they discuss various events and experiences from their personal lives, touching upon cultural differences and educational practices in Japan and Northern Ireland. They explore the dynamics between political movements and conspiratorial thought, offering insights into the difficult balance between activism and burnout while also reflecting on the importance of maintaining curiosity and a sense of humor in their work.

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Matthew Browne, a high-profile advocate for pan-psychism, compels his reluctant co-host to endure a public struggle session on the topic of consciousness, hopefully for the last time. Supplementary Material 49 00:00 Introduction 02:47 Returning to the Emerald Isle 03:44 Irish History Segment: The Titanic & Potato Famines 10:45 McGilchrist Reflections 12:51 Knowledge Fight has ended 26:23 Podcasting Motivations 34:37 Calibrated Expectations 41:03 The Problem with the Patreon Members 42:51 Shermer's Activist Skeptic Research 47:24 Research on Support for Political Violence in the US 54:35 Rob Henderson and Decorative Scholarship 58:11 Ryan Holiday Stoically Flames MAGA 01:04:41 Zuby and Motivated Reasoning 01:07:15 Monocausal Explanations for Declining Birth Rates 01:08:51 More credulity from Shermer 01:10:25 Bryan Johnson and Testicular Optimisation 01:14:41 Testicle Fixation Gurus 01:15:24 Professor Jiang thinks Trump is Immortal 01:19:57 When Dawkins Met Claude 01:30:00 The Great Consciousness Debate of 2026 01:42:47 When Cladius met Claudia 01:52:39 Chris's Concession 01:54:23 Animal Minds and AI Consciousness 01:56:31 Russell Brand vs Piers Morgan 02:10:13 Thirsty Christian dunks on Dawkins 02:13:18 Brand's Family's Response 02:22:39 Hasan Piker is the one who knocks! 02:27:44 Outro 02:28:36 A final message of hope! Links Knowledge Fight's Last Episode – The End of the Road Jordan's video on the Onion Dan's blog on his next plans Rob Henderson’s thread promoting the Shermer Skeptic Study Polarization Research Lab- Low levels of support for partisan violence Polarization Research Lab - Did the 2024 Election Change American Attitudes About Democracy? Ryan Holiday’s response to the Shellenberger video Ryan Holiday responding to article that he is ‘fuming’ at Ivanka Zuby’s insights on Birth Rate Decline Vice article on the history of testicle transplants "Massive GRIFTER!" Piers Morgan Grills Russell Brand On Allegations, Prison, 'Truth' & Religion UnHerd: When Claudia met Claudius- So are they really conscious? UnHerd: When Dawkins met Claude Could this AI be conscious? ‘Professor’ Jiang on Trump’s Immortality Mehdi Hasan dunking on Dawkins
2026-05-04 07:30:00 • 3:10:01

DELETED Iain McGilchrist, Part 2: Hemispheres, Culture, and Cosmic Consciousness

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This episode includes an in-depth critique of Iain McGilchrist's theories about the brain's hemispheres and their implications for understanding human culture and civilization. The hosts discuss how McGilchrist attributes positive societal developments to the right hemisphere, while associating negative aspects with the left, challenging these claims with references to scientific critiques and literature. Additionally, the conversation delves into McGilchrist's philosophical views, touching on themes such as materialism, consciousness, and broader metaphysical interpretations, ultimately questioning the evidence and logic behind his assertions.

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In this episode, we return to Iain McGilchrist as he spirals upwards from his binary hemispheric model into full cosmic spirituality. The rule is simple: everything McGilchrist likes is due to the subtle, nuanced, and deeply sophisticated right brain, while the left brain (pffft) is responsible for reductionism, modernity, and most of the problems in your life. From this neuroscientific foundation, the theory expands with admirable ambition. Civilisations rise and fall depending on which hemisphere they inhabit. Ancient societies were properly attuned to the right brain, while the modern world has gone mechanical and spiritually bankrupt. The details are, of course, very complex, but the moral is clear. Scientific evidence features occasionally, mostly in a decorative capacity or as parables of scientists being baffled by mystical forces. Hence, we learn that decapitated worms retain perfect memories, Nobel Prizes have been awarded for demonstrating a mystical direction powering evolution, and near-death experiences establish that memories form when the brain isn't functioning. Alongside this hard science, McGilchrist also ventures into more spiritual realms, where we learn that artificial intelligence is likely to be channelling demons, schizophrenia might be caused by malign spiritual forces treating our brains as a luxury resort, and recently exorcised demons prefer to communicate via text message. No really... Ultimately, what matters is that McGilchrist's bespoke theology, bespoke metaphysics, bespoke biological teleology, and bespoke panentheist philosophy are really very impressive. And if you don't find any of it compelling, well, we are sad to inform you that this itself proves you are stuck in the wrong mode of thinking and failing to recognise true profundity. And if that doesn't work, then let's just say it was all a metaphor anyway! Links Alex O' Connor: Why Evolution Gave You Two Brains - Iain McGilchrist Jonathan Pageau: Artificial Intelligence, Possession, and Mental Illness - Dr. Iain McGilchrist Think Faith: Philosopher Iain McGilchrist DEBATES neuroscientist Anil Seth on God & minds | Uncommon Ground Spezio, M. (2019). McGilchrist and hemisphere lateralization: a neuroscientific and metaanalytic assessment. Religion, Brain & Behavior , 9 (4), 387–399. Corballis, M. C. (2014). Left brain, right brain: facts and fantasies. PLoS biology , 12 (1), e1001767. Carson, A. (2010). The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World. By Iain McGilchrist. Yale University Press. 2009. US $38.00 (hb). 608 pp. ISBN: 9780300148787. The British Journal of Psychiatry , 196 (6), 498-498. De Haan, D. (2019). McGilchrist’s hemispheric homunculi. Religion, Brain & Behavior , 9 (4), 368-379. Shomrat, T., & Levin, M. (2013). An automated training paradigm reveals long-term memory in planarians and its persistence through head regeneration. Journal of Experimental Biology , 216 (20), 3799-3810.
2026-04-25 22:15:00 • 44:17

DELETED Supplementary Material 48: Grey Beard's Council, Late-Stage Anti-Capitalism, and Demonic Mould Health Updates

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This episode includes a discussion with cognitive anthropologist Christopher Kavanaugh and the host delving into topics such as why certain conspiracy theories, like the moon landing denials, persist and the appeal of political figures like Trump to different ideological groups. It also touches on how innovations in mRNA vaccines are promising for treating diseases, despite funding cuts. The hosts speculate about political dynamics, particularly the relationships between public figures and regimes, examining why intellectuals might support leaders like Orban and how their silence speaks volumes in changing political landscapes.

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The hour grows late, and Matt the Grey-Haired rides once more from his quiet study, summoned by whispers from the ever-churning gurusphere. And so he goes, to seek counsel with Chris the Grey-Bearded, keeper of receipts, watcher of long-form content, and wielder of the sacred Gurometer. For the gurus stir again… and their nonsense must be decoded. Supplementary Material 48: Grey Beard's Council, Late-Stage Anti-Capitalism, and Demonic Mould Health Updates 00:00 Greetings Old Friend 02:22 Decoding the Gamers 04:16 A Reckoning with Old Grey Hair 06:19 Joe Rogan determining US Medical Approvals 12:15 The Fall of Orban and the Silence of the Heterodox World 17:09 The Hypocrisy of Peter Boghossian 19:52 Dave Rubin and other Tenet Media Stooges 21:43 The Dugin, Jiang and Sneako Brain Trust discuss the ultra-hyper-globalists. 28:58 Trump attacks Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, & Megyn Kelly 32:39 A Return to Weinstein World 33:00 Bret's Moon Landing Conspiracies 39:03 Eric and his Silicon Friend are still having problems 42:47 Hasan Piker Discourse 54:33 The Radicalisation Funnel? 01:00:14 Hasan on Ukraine 01:03:21 Hasan doing China apologetics 01:14:03 More Apologetics 01:16:37 Hasan on the Vietnamese MAGA supporter 01:23:41 What about Destiny? 01:26:58 Yale is full of Snakes and Badgers 01:33:17 Micro Looting from the Corporations 01:41:36 Cenk Uyghur's Rent Gouging Credentials 01:44:47 Social Murder and Selective "Understanding" 01:54:26 Late-Stage Capitalist Anti-Capitalism 01:56:22 Tucker Carlson is Selling Russell Brand's Guide to Becoming a Christian 02:00:33 Sean Hannity chooses Trump over his Catholicism 02:04:18 Russell Brand and the spiritual marketplace 02:05:48 Postmodern Conservatism 02:07:28 Taking a Long View 02:10:14 AI Bouldering Gym Cages 02:11:30 Taylor Lorenz is making good points on Twitter! 02:19:52 Taylor's controversial take: AI is useful 02:21:36 Adam Conover engages in revisionist history on tech 02:24:14 Rotary Telephones and Typewriter Experiences 02:26:41 The Onion takeover of Infowars? 02:31:28 Knowledge Fight's Concerns 02:35:56 Jordan Peterson Health Update 02:40:07 Endlessly Misdiagnosed by "Experts" 02:44:32 The Dietary Cures 02:47:20 Experimental Stem Cell Treatments 02:50:04 Pageau blames Peterson's lack of faith 03:00:14 Letting the Pressure Out 03:01:07 Outro 03:02:01 We Must Join with the Mould The full episode is available to Patreon subscribers (3 hours, 3 minutes). Join us at: Links Joe Rogan crowing about his role in the White House executive order on Ibogaine Fact Check of Rogan's claims on PolitiFact Pancreatic cancer mRNA trial update: NBC report on six-year follow-up Article on NIH grant cancellations/funding cuts at Washington Post APHA release on lawsuit over politically driven grant terminations Ban on DEI words, including "polarization" by DOGE BBC Article on Orbán's loss Boghossian dodges criticism of Hungary in HardTalk interview Boghossian avoids dealing with protests in Hungary Dugin / Sneako / Professor Jiang interview Trump attacks Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, and Megyn Kelly Bret Weinstein's moon landing / Artemis clip highlighted by Bad Stats Eric Weinstein's tweets on commercial AI and theoretical physics Tucker Carlson's promotion for Russell Brand's new Christian-themed book Ezra Klein on Hasan Piker: RealClearPolitics mirror of the New York Times column Conduit: I Spent ONE WEEK Watching Hasan Piker ‪, And This Is What I Learned A generational divide over Trump among Vietnamese-Americans – BBC News Hasan reacts to the Vietnamese-American documentary Twitter Thread with most of the viral Hasan clips Noahpinion: Hasan Piker is bad for the Democrats Hasan's Yale Debate on YouTube Yair Rosenberg's article on the Atlantic: The Problem With Hasan Piker’s Einstein Story NYT: ‘The Rich Don’t Play by the Rules. So Why Should I?' Why petty theft might be the new political protest’ LA Times article on the Onion's Infowars Takeover Bid Alex Jones clip of him roaming shirtless and complaining about the Onion Mikhaila Peterson: Jordan Peterson Health Update and Psych Med Injury Discussion Jonathan Pageau explains Jordan's illness is due to his refusal to submit to God Taylor Lorenz being correct about the past promotion of technology products Tech Dirt article on the recent court decisions against Meta and YouTube Sean Hannity endorses Trump over his Catholicism Taylor Lorenz: The Truth About the Social Media Addiction Trial
2026-04-11 21:45:00 • 2:03:39

DELETED Ian McGilchrist, Part 1: Right-Brain Thinking 13 plays

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This episode includes an exploration of the divided brain and how different hemispheres influence human perception and cognition. The hosts discuss prominent theories in neuroscience with a particular focus on Iain McGilchrist's perspective on how the left and right brain hemispheres operate, touching on topics like language, attention, and emotion. Through this examination, they also engage with broader philosophical debates around reductionist materialism and the nature of consciousness, challenging common scientific and philosophical assumptions.

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In this episode, we take a journey into the mind, traversing both the left and right hemispheres, but mostly the left, as we engage with the truly mind-bending insights of British psychiatrist-philosopher-neuroscientist-theologian-author Ian McGilchrist. Best known for his 2009 book "The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World" but also a much lauded academic and sensemaker. We outline McGilchrist’s extremely complicated thesis that the two hemispheres of the brain reflect fundamentally different “ways of being” and that this is reflected in individuals and civilisations that rely more on one side than the other. This is, of course, not merely a crude binary. As McGilchrist repeatedly emphasises, it would be quite wrong to suggest he is simply valorising everything he likes (religion, poetry, classic literature, wood-panelled interiors, sense-making chats) and attributing them to the products of a profound and integrative right hemisphere. Similarly, he does not simply want to denigrate materialists as reductive left-brain thinkers who cannot appreciate art, beauty, or love because they are too busy thinking about atoms. There is definitely none of that in his chat with Alex O'Connor (AKA CosmicSkeptic). Expect neuroanatomy, metaphysics, and extended reflections on the nature of love. In other words, a completely standard Decoding the Gurus episode. Links Alex O' Connor: Why Evolution Gave You Two Brains - Iain McGilchrist Iain McGilchrist's website. Spezio, M. (2019). McGilchrist and hemisphere lateralization: a neuroscientific and metaanalytic assessment. Religion, Brain & Behavior , 9 (4), 387–399. Lamm, C., Decety, J., & Singer, T. (2011). Meta-analytic evidence for common and distinct neural networks associated with directly experienced pain and empathy for pain. Neuroimage , 54 (3), 2492-2502. Stavrova, O., & Ehlebracht, D. (2019). The cynical genius illusion: Exploring and debunking lay beliefs about cynicism and competence. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin , 45 (2), 254-269. Lindquist, K. A., Wager, T. D., Kober, H., Bliss-Moreau, E., & Barrett, L. F. (2012). The brain basis of emotion: a meta-analytic review. Behavioral and brain sciences , 35 (3), 121-143.
2026-04-08 03:00:00 • 1:28:17

DELETED Mentalism and Meta-Deception with Stevie Baskin

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This episode includes a discussion with Stevie Baskin about his viral video debunking mentalism, distinguishing it from traditional magic by its use of "meta-deception" and false psychological explanations to convince audiences of genuine extraordinary abilities. The conversation extends to parallels between mentalists and "gurus" who engage in "epistemic theater" and exploit the attention economy, highlighting the dangers of misplaced trust and the importance of critical thinking and humility.

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On this episode, we’re joined by Stevie Baskin, a skeptic and YouTuber who released a five-hour detailed critique of the “meta-deception” of Oz Pearlman. He argues that mentalism differs from traditional magic by introducing an additional meta-deception because, unlike magicians, mentalists often leave their audiences with inaccurate beliefs about body language reading, subliminal influence, NLP, and general psychology. In Stevie’s framework, this places mentalists closer to psychics and mediums than to magicians, because the deceptive element is not clearly acknowledged. We examine this position, unpack common mentalist techniques, consider the role of strategic disclaimers and TED-style “epistemic theatre,” and explore possible parallels with contemporary secular gurus. Sources Metadeception: the truth about Oz Pearlman The Disagreement: Debating a mentalist professor of psychology (Scott Barry Kaufman) about Oz Pearlman Chris' old blog covering the ethics of Derren Brown's claims in 2009 The Power Of Subliminal Messages | Trick Of The Mind | Derren Brown
2026-04-03 08:00:00 • 44:10

DELETED Supplementary Material 47: The DTG Conspiracy UNMASKED, Quantum Idiots, and Triggernometry Prophecies 48 plays

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This episode includes a deep dive into various online conspiracy theories targeting the hosts, including allegations of political funding and hidden agendas, which they methodically refute. The discussion highlights common patterns of conspiratorial thinking, motivated reasoning, and the use of rhetorical maneuvers like "just asking questions" found in internet forums. The hosts share personal reflections on engaging with online comments and the broader implications for public discourse.

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Our cover is blown. Our secret funders unmasked. Code Red: Abort! Abort! This is not a drill. Supplementary Material 47: The DTG Conspiracy UNMASKED, Quantum Idiots, and Triggernometry Prophecies 00:00 Glowing Introduction 03:14 The Secret Conspiracy at the Heart of the Podcast 08:17 The Israel Connection 19:09 Cenk Uygur's Pickleball Conspiracy 23:25 Comment Section Conspiracies 30:20 Pizzagate Conspiracies Revisited 37:55 The Value of debating with ChadBigCum 42:26 AI discourse reflections 43:43 Ben Burgis's hyperbolic reaction to AI use 44:53 The AI revolution and its potential impacts 47:53 Social and Economic Disruption and Job Replacement 51:33 The Dangers of Slopified Work and AI economies 55:47 Statistical Analysis Software and the value of Friction 57:36 The Perils of AI Usage outside of your Skillset 58:59 The Solution is within yourself! 01:04:22 The Hundred Schools of AI discourse 01:05:58 Double Slit and Quantum Physics Insights from Warren Smith 01:12:39 Schrodinger's poor, misinterpreted cat 01:13:48 The Wonderful Benjamin Boyce 01:14:41 Quantum Woo and Arrogant Sensemakers 01:18:29 Young Matt and Aged Chris 01:20:13 The Triggernometry Prophecy 01:23:54 Quid Pro Quo in the Discourse Circuit 01:28:25 The Anti-Institutional Horseshoe Theory of MEHDI HASAN 01:37:18 So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! The full episode is available to Patreon subscribers (1 hour, 40 minutes). Join us at: Links Reddit post unmasking our Israeli backers Mother Jones article on whether 'pizza' is a codeword in the Epstein files (Spoiler: No it is not) Mickey's Opinion Piece in The Canadian Jewish News about "quiet anti-semitism" Ben Burgis is suggesting a journalist should be fired for using AI Cenk Uygur’s Pickleball Conspiracy Vigeland & Citarella on Epstein: The One Conspiracy to Rule Them All (YouTube) Benjamin Boyce and Warren Smith discuss Quantum Physics Triggernometry: Mehdi Hasan Debate on the Iran War, Immigration and the Israel Lobby Creator of Horseshoe Theory Dies aged 100
2026-03-28 04:50:00 • 1:38:08

DELETED The Moral Dilemmas of AI with Michael Inzlicht 2 plays

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This episode includes a discussion on the evolving impact of artificial intelligence, exploring its capabilities in areas like empathy, relationships, and professional tasks such as coding and writing. The conversation delves into the concept of "frictionless AI," examining how it removes cognitive effort and the potential benefits and drawbacks for human skill development. It concludes by exploring the "moralization of AI," where public attitudes often become emotionally charged and prescriptive, influencing societal discourse.

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Mickey is BACK with two new papers he has co-authored, a bunch of opinions, and a very unwelcome idea: maybe the problem with AI isn't that it doesn't work but that it works too well! The first paper, Against Frictionless AI, argues that AI assistance and its ability to take away the effort from thinking, writing, and smooth out social(like) interactions could be robbing those activities of the very thing that makes them worthwhile. The second paper is a more empirical investigation that presents a bunch of studies examining the topic of the (alleged) moralisation of AI. Some findings suggest that opposition to AI among some people isn't really about risks or trade-offs but rather about non-negotiable sacred moral values. Who knew? We also discuss effort justification, reproducible research, robosexual allyship, and just how much humanity remains within the cyborg Matthew Browne. And remember... It's just like our opinion, man! Links Decoding Academia 34: Empathetic AIs? (Patreon Series) Ovsyannikova, D., Oldemburgo de Mello, V., & Inzlicht, M. (2025). Third-party evaluators perceive AI as more compassionate than expert humans . Communications Psychology, 3, Article 4. Zohar, E., Bloom, P., & Inzlicht, M. (2026). Against frictionless AI . Communications Psychology, 4, Article 39. Oldemburgo de Mello, V., Côté, É., Ayad, R., Inbar, Y., Plaks, J., & Inzlicht, M. (2026). The moralization of artificial intelligence (Manuscript under review). Paul Bloom's Small Potatoes Substack - My friend thinks it's a good idea for us to spend most of our time with AI companions - Is it irresponsible for academics to refuse to use AI? Mickey's Speak Now Regret Later Substack - AI Alarmism Trades on Fear, Not Facts Mickey's provocative tweet on his recent paper DTG Previous Interview with Mickey on the Replication Crisis, Mindfulness, and Responsible Heterodoxy Andy Masley Substack debunking the AI water usage claims Andy Masley Substack: Using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet Pataranutaporn, P., Karny, S., Archiwaranguprok, C., Albrecht, C., Liu, A. R., & Maes, P. (2025). “My Boyfriend is AI”: A computational analysis of human–AI companionship in Reddit’s AI community . arXiv. Critical response to Mickey's paper from Roy Schulam on Substack
2026-03-22 10:00:00 • 2:38:38

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This episode includes a deep dive into Ken Wilber's Integral Theory, exploring his multi-tiered system of consciousness and development, which distinguishes between "waking up" and "growing up." It details the color-coded stages of human and societal evolution, the concept of "transcend and include," and applies these frameworks to political analysis. The discussion also touches on the theory's perceived integration of various psychological and spiritual traditions, and its potential application to artificial intelligence.

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Ken Wilber, the grand architect of Integral Theory , enters the Decoding chamber (wearing a striking but slightly unconvincing wig) as we explore a worldview that confidently absorbs every religion, philosophy, and half-remembered psychology paper into one majestic, Borg-like synthesis. Resistance, as it turns out, is not just futile... it is probably “first-tier thinking". This is a world of elaborate, baroque cosmologies. Layers within layers, quadrants within stages, spirals within states, with each offering a map of reality that grows more intricate the closer it gets to its own centre. Traditions are not debated so much as absorbed, their distinctiveness dissolved into a higher synthesis that always leads to the ultimate insight: integral theory. Get ready to experience high-level political analysis where Kamala Harris becomes a “fractured green" and Donald Trump the embodiment of a "rational orange". You will also learn how Ken is working with AI companies to help them incorporate integral thinking into their algorithms. The implications this has for human evolution are hard to fathom. Finally, in true Columbo fashion, we circle back to Matt's core philosophical system … panpsychism. Just a small detail, and also take some time to conduct a brief spiritual inquisition into Matt’s alleged Christian upbringing. Fortunately, nothing is rejected. Everything is integrated, including all possible critiques. Sources Suma Gowda: Ken Wilber on Future of Consciousness, AI, Trump's Election: A Deep Dive into Spiral Dynamics The Rise and Fall of Ken Wilber – Mark Manson Rebel Wisdom: Interview with Ken Wilber- What Happened to Jordan Peterson DS Wilson finds wisdom in Ken's approach Ken Wilber's website
2026-03-18 12:20:00 • 19:00

DELETED Gurometer: Teal Swan and Scott Galloway 1 play

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This episode includes a comparative evaluation of two public figures using a unique scoring system called the "grometer." The hosts rate them on factors such as "galaxy brain," "cultishness," "anti-establishmentarianism," and "Cassandra complex," highlighting one as highly conspiratorial and cultish while the other is seen as more conventional.

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In this Gurometer double bill, Matt and Chris break out the much-sought-after Gurometer™ to score Teal Swan and Scott Galloway across the 11 recurring guru traits. In one efficient episode, we compare cosmic-certified spirituality with secular man-talk (and a surprising amount of puffer-jacket merchandising). As a bonus, get ready to thrill at Matt's eternal puzzlement at his own simple binary question of 'guru-osity'. Links Gurometer scores to date The full episode is available for Patreon subscribers (51 mins). Join us at: Gurometer: Teal Swan and Scott Galloway 00:00 Back to the Gurometer: Teal and Scott 02:33 Galaxy Brain-ness 04:18 Cultishness 05:25 Anti-Establishmentarianism 08:31 Grievance Mongering 10:55 Self Aggrandisement and Narcissism 14:30 Cassandra Complex 18:03 Revolutionary Theories 21:49 Pseudo-Profound Bullshit 26:07 Conspiracy Mongering 28:50 Excessive Profiteering 36:25 Moral Grandstanding 40:33 Overall Gurometer Score 41:27 Rapid Fire Bonus Guru Points
2026-03-15 00:00:00 • 36:46

DELETED Supplementary Material 46: Epstein Did Microtransactions, Grok Did Nothing Wrong, and Murder is Bad 2 plays

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This episode includes a discussion on public intellectuals' misunderstanding and anthropomorphizing of AI, exemplified by Eric Weinstein's interactions with Grok and Peter Boghossian's attempts to control it, alongside insights into a scientific study on AI hallucination. It also explores the pervasive and escalating nature of Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theories, tracing how he is being linked to a wide array of unrelated events, figures, and online phenomena.

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In our never-ending quest to alienate all potential online audiences, we finger-wag about rampant Epstein conspiracism and explain why we are, on balance, anti-murder. The full episode is available to Patreon subscribers (2 hours, 42 minutes). Join us at: In our never-ending quest to alienate all potential online audiences, we finger-wag about rampant Epstein conspiracism and explain why we are, on balance, anti-murder. 00:00 Intro 03:39 Flooding Adventures 06:54 Eric's Troubles with his Silicon Friend 13:09 Peter Boghossian's Hardcore for Grok 17:16 A Promising Paper on reducing AI Hallucinations 22:17 Statistical Consults 23:12 Epstein Discourse Lollapalooza 27:24 Eric Weinstein thinks Epstein is connected to UFOs 29:09 Rogan Plays Apologist for Trump on Epstein 32:21 Emma Vigeland and Joshua Citarella engage in Conspiracy Hypothesising 35:07 Reasonable Conspiracy Theorising 42:24 The Real Conspiracy 44:26 Epstein and Ghislaine puppeting the culture wars 48:18 The Joy of Conspiracy Theories 53:29 Epstein and Bannon created QAnon as a Psyop 01:01:37 What about ritual child abuse, dissolving bodies and cannibalism? 01:09:05 Lurid Cannibal Fantasies 01:15:56 Emma's UFO theory 01:20:08 The Joe Roganification of Podcasts and some strategic disclaimers 01:24:14 A dichotomy in contemporary American attitudes to Wealth? 01:28:32 The Mainstream Media won't focus on Epstein's connections with Israel and Mossad 01:32:08 The REAL Epstein scandal that no one wants to talk about 01:34:36 Behind the Bastards coverage of Epstein 01:36:01 Epstein's alleged role in creating microtransactions in games 01:40:46 Epstein's cringey Edutainment ideas 01:50:53 What Robert Evans Got Wrong 01:54:08 There are No Coincidences 02:00:57 The Danger of Appealing Narratives and also... Michael Tracey 02:06:00 The Anti-Murder Podcast 02:07:47 Warren Smith highlights Violent Rhetoric aimed at Konstantin 02:14:12 Justifying Murder is Bad... M'Kay? 02:17:55 Experiences of Violence and Naivety 02:21:16 Levels of Political Violence 02:23:49 Destiny's Community and Edgy Political Violence Takes 02:27:56 Alienating online audiences 101 02:30:14 Eric talks wormholes with a UFO maniac 02:35:28 Lord of the Idiots 02:36:18 Does Matt know Snorlax? 02:39:43 A failed disclaimer outro Links Erik arguing with Grok Boghossian’s hardcore rules for Grok H-Neurons: On the Existence, Impact, and Origin of Hallucination-Associated Neurons in LLMs (Gao et al., 2025) YouTube comment under our NXIVM video about Epstein People article claiming Epstein was Putin’s Wealth Manager Taylor Lorenz – Panic World: How Epstein Warped the Entire Internet Garbage Day: “Here’s How Epstein Broke the Internet” Eric Weinstein on Piers Morgan connecting Epstein to UFOs and his “research” Triggernometry’s 7th appearance on Rogan American Alchemy: Eric Weinstein & Eric Davis on Wormholes BBC: Ex-police chief said Trump told him in 2006 “everyone” knew about Epstein’s behaviour Joshua Citarella & Emma Vigeland – Epstein, Conspiracy & Right-wing Media | Doomscroll Pew Research: Demographics of the Progressive Left in the United States Debunking claims about Ghislaine Maxwell being a Reddit power mod Obama did not say aliens are real – PBS NewsHour NBC News: Epstein’s relationship with Ehud Barak Al Jazeera: What were Jeffrey Epstein’s links to Israel? Warren Smith’s post about threats from Digital Gnosis Digital Gnosis Substack statement Destiny’s Head Mod Confronts Him On His Rhetoric Eric Weinstein Demands UFO Secrets From Pentagon Scientist Epstein email documents Email from Pablos Holman to Epstein (document 1) Email from Pablos Holman to Epstein (document 2) Email from Pablos Holman to Epstein (document 3) Epstein forwarding Holman’s email to Bobby Kotick Pablos Holman responding and dunking on Kotick